Had enough yet

[Lee Chowaniec]

If the Mueller report fails to identify claims of collusion, obstruction of justice, conspiracy and/or treason, should those involved in the false claims and waste of time and tens of millions of dollars of taxpayer monies be investigated and suffer consequences?

Will New York-based federal prosecutors investigate areas of the president’s life that are off-limits for the special counsel’s office, including his business empire, his inaugural committee and his personal finances?

The left is in rage mode and anything is possible! The circus has not left town!

[mark blazejewski]

If the Mueller report fails to identify claims of collusion, obstruction of justice, conspiracy and/or treason, should those involved in the false claims and waste of time and tens of millions of dollars of taxpayer monies be investigated and suffer consequences?

If the report does not reach a positive finding, should those involved be involved and suffer the consequences?

Let's see, as I understand the history of this so-called "Russia Collusion:"

You had Trump's opposition actually commit crimes, and the FBI seemingly aided in a cover-up by a rather unsupported exoneration.

In turn, with FBI complicity, you had operatives of the "exonerated," working with, and paying, Fusion GPS, to solicit from citizens of the UK and Russia, synthetic information to create a fictional narrative, which served as a so-called finding to obtain a FISA warrant to start all of this crap.

Then, you had the head of the FBI by his own admission, structure events, leaking classified information to a friend, in order to create, a condition "requiring" the appointment of a special counsel to investigate, and to place into concocted legal jeopardy, the President of the United States.

That counsel's office was created by a Justice Department (with a impotent and perhaps somehow personally compromised leader) replete with functioning "Deep State" operatives, and was supported by "Establishment" Congressional personae of both Republican and Democrat Parties. Together with similar "Deep State" operatives in the intelligence community, this toxic mix negatively impacted the peace and security of the United States for two years.

If your observations are correct Lee, yes, these actors need to be investigated and suffer the consequences.

My only argument with your comment is your use of the term "circus." This was an attempted coup d'etate and those responsible just may have committed sedition, if not treason.

[Lee Chowaniec]

Circus Mark in respect to the appalling manner (IMHO) the Democratic Party is being manipulated and intimidated by the fringe alt-left to propose policies that alienate moderates in general. To propose and support a supercilious agenda whose sole purpose is to destroy Trump is self-defeating.

To defeat Trump the current lot of Democratic presidential candidates are trying to outdo each other offering some of the most outlandish and unachievable proposals, or constitutional changes, to impeach Trump or defeat him in 2020:

• Eliminate the Electoral College

• Lower the voting age to 16

• Promote voting rights for illegal immigrants

• Not only obstructing the building of a wall, but removing a section of wall

• Denying there is a border crisis while giving every indication there is one

• Late term abortion, okay; decriminalization and use of marijuana, good; opioid to relieve chronic pain, bad.

• Free stuff and NGD, good. Money to pay for it? Crickets.

• The three new party socialist rock stars are going to put up candidates to oppose party members who do not follow their direction. Inclusion? Free speech?

• Now a new clown enters the arena and promises to pass a bill to outlaw circumcision.

Seriously guys, people are literally dying to get into this country and you guys paint America as a ****hole in need of drastic change. And what you offer will make America better? How?

[mark blazejewski]

Circus Mark in respect to the appalling manner (IMHO) the Democratic Party is being manipulated and intimidated by the fringe alt-left to propose policies that alienate moderates in general. To propose and support a supercilious agenda whose sole purpose is to destroy Trump is self-defeating.

In that connection Mr. C., as always, you are correct.

• Now a new clown enters the arena and promises to pass a bill to outlaw circumcision.

Au, contraire Lee, the circumcision proposal is in total consistency with the Left's broad values set. To date, it has nearly managed to outlaw the functionality of being male.

[mark blazejewski]

Trump Totally Vindicated!!!

Mueller does not exonerate Trump of obstruction of justice, nor did he find that Trump committed a crime, and leaves it for the DOJ to determine.

The DOJ's response:

In light of Trump's public actions, "No actions in our judgement constitute obstruction of justice."

No "Collusion."

No Trump Campaign personnel involved.

No evidence.

No NUTTIN'.

LMAO:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...dent-collusion

To the Left:

You traitors suck!!!

[grump]

My hope is that something good will come of this. Like Chris Matthews and Rachel Madcow plunging off tall buildings

[mark blazejewski]

My hope is that something good will come of this. Like Chris Matthews and Rachel Madcow plunging off tall buildings

They have taken a dump on the nation for two years, so they may as well use their venue to do something really worth while Grumpster.

[Lee Chowaniec]

“Mueller report stops short of exonerating Trump”

“Mueller report leaves open the question of whether Trump tried to obstruct the investigation.”

“Federal probes still put Trump and his associates in legal jeopardy.”

“Democrats will spend the coming months pushing for more details from Mueller, all while launching new probes into Trump's administration and businesses.”

Up until the 11th hour we were being led to believe by the Dems and the biased mainstream media that there was substantive / conclusive proof that there was Russian collusion by the Trump administration. The media was especially culpable in the deceit by publishing reports based on ‘sources’, anonymous tips, inside leaks, etc.

The Mueller report finds no evidence of collusion and issues no indictments based on collusion.

But the report stops short of exonerating Trump. That’s good enough for the Dems to continue the quest of finding something that doesn’t sit well with the left.

Impeachment is a must; moving the goal posts? Indeed? And Trump is the divisive one?

Can anyone, should anyone ever believe the media again? It was an illegal search form the beginning – FISA.

Shame on all the politicos as well as the media for this charade and the chaos it has caused. This was not in the best interest of our country.

What has the exhaustive fishing expedition cost the American taxpayers? What further cost will be added in an attempt to bring down the administration. Have you no shame? Is this the only way the Dems can defeat Trump?

It further gives credence to my conviction: “With rare exception, all politicos suck!”

[mark blazejewski]

[B]“Mueller report stops short of exonerating Trump”

Mueller, suspiciously, punted to Barr and Rosenstein, and they found no evidence to move forward. This was not a "Board of Inquiry" which would assign blame or exonerate.

Prosecutors only prosecute, they don't exonerate.

[Lee Chowaniec]

Apologies to President Trump

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...resident-trump

At least the Hill shows some media class!

[mark blazejewski]

Apologies to President Trump

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...resident-trump

At least the Hill shows some media class!

Yes Lee, I saw that earlier today.

[mark blazejewski]

JUST MY TWO CENTS:

If you are like me, you are frustrated and angered by the Left's unprincipled focus on the fact that it was Attorney General Barr, and not Robert Mueller, that concluded that there was no grounds for charging President Trump with obstruction of justice.

While Mueller was playing politics with that decision, and his comment that he did not "exonerate" Trump from the charge.Bear in mind it is a merit-less observation on Mueller's part, and most probably was intended as fodder for the House Democrats and his "Deep State" buddies. It was his decision to punt the ball to both Barr and Rosenstein, and their decision is the governing legal authority.

In point of fact, Robert Mueller did not function as a one-man fact-finding Warren Commission, or a self-contained "Blue Ribbon Panel." He was a prosecutor, charged with prosecuting criminal conduct, and prosecutors do not exonerate: Prosecutors prosecute.. Ergo, the Left is desperately clinging to the frayed thread of hope that is hollow semantics.

So, a word of celebratory perspective.

Let us Trump supporters and all who love America count our blessings, and consider what life would have looked like today had the Mueller Report indicted members of the First Family, close Trump campaign associates, and name the President as an un-indicted co-conspirator.

This is what that world would have looked like:

(1) Most nauseating of all, the biased Main Stream Media would have had their bias vindicated and celebrated.

(2) The move toward impeachment would have accelerated, and conviction, or possible resignation, would most probably prevailed.

(3) There would have been a drumbeat of suggestions that Vice President, or President Pence was in some way culpable, and the prospect of President Pelosi would have loomed on the horizon.

(4) Even if no such linkage with Pence were made, our 46th President would face the prospect of intervention in the Trump case, and would most probably follow the Ford pardon precedent: A crippling end to the Pence Presidency and the Trump agenda, to wit:

Kiss every conservative SCOTUS nominee goodbye, as well as the Federal Judiciary

No wall

No strong illegal immigration policy

Goodbye tax cuts

Goodbye deregulation, good bye booming economy.

A strong Leftward tilt in GOP. Can you say President Flake?

Empowered and embolden Socialist- Democrat candidates with a fired-up base, wagging their fingers at many independents and Republicans, who undoubtedly would be in search of contrition and penance.

Think I exaggerate? Methinks not.

Consider what the historic impact would have been had network news led with a news story on August 5, 1974, which reported that the White House tapes had exonerated, or at least contained exculpatory evidence in support of, President Nixon.

Consider these possible items of impact:

The Washington Post, Woodward, Bernstein, Dan Rather, and the three networks,would have been discredited, and:

(1) Republican and Conservative would not have been bad words.

(2) The probable Republican Presidential nominee in 1976 most probably would have been either John Connally or Ronald Reagan.

(3) The most probable Democrat Presidential nominee in 1976 would most probably been Cold Warrior, conservative Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson, and not Jimmy Carter.

(4) It is very likely that there would have been no Soviet/Cuban expansionism in to Angola and Ethiopia, and Soviet strength and influence would have been severely curtailed.

(5) Nixon, Connally, Reagan, and Jackson seemingly would have supported a strong Shah of Iran. Ergo, no Islamic Revolution.

(6) With a strong Shah, there most probably would have been no Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and therefore, no seeds for Al Qaeda.

(7) Vietnam and Cambodia would not have been lost in 1975.

(8) Robert Bork may have made it to the Supreme Court in 1975 instead of John Paul Stevens.

(9) SALT II, which was necessarily withdrawn for reasons of weakness, would have been ratified as a well-negotiated agreement.

(10) No gas crisis of 1979, no inflation, high employment, and no Carter "Misery Index."

(11) No Iran-Iraq War, 1980-1988.

Yes, history turns on the split second, kind of like an announcement from the Attorney General, so celebrate the next two years of the Trump Presidency

[Lee Chowaniec]

"She's literally running circles around Donald Trump, and she's doing it in heels and with style and with grace and with a lot of different personalities," said Illinois Democratic Rep. Cheri Bustos. "We are going to stay focused on getting the nation's work done."

LMAO. She can’t rein in her out-of-control party.

“Over the nearly two years of the Mueller investigation, a segment of liberals and activists built up fervent hopes that it would bring Mr. Trump down. They elevated Mr. Mueller, a former F.B.I. director, into an anti-Trump cultural icon, complete with T-shirts, scented candles and holiday-themed songs like “We Wish You a Mueller Christmas.”

Yes, they did! Now they will turn on him if they don’t get what they want out of it. For some of them, the report felt like a betrayal. To many others, it was a disappointment.

Left-wing Hollywood stars have spent the past two years spreading wild conspiracy theories about President Donald Trump and Russian “collusion,” with a slew of celebrities calling him a “traitor,” a “puppet,” a “thug,” a “urine-lapper” for Putin and predicting that he will be “in chains” soon.

Ah, the sanctimonious, smug, moral Hollywood elite.

Lindsey Graham told John McCain to turn over Steele Dossier to the FBI. McCain did not turn it over to the press.

The Republicans have blood on their hands as well. Should the Democrats further pursue this useless course, only then should the Republicans pursue vindictive payback measures. Two stupids don’t make a smart. Let's move on and run the government.

Most importantly, let's get rid of the distraction. I want to hear more from the Democratic candidates on their grandiose progressive-socialist programs / policies, their need for them and associated costs. My God, there's already talk that Hillary may be the answer to a party in disarray. Ugh!

[mark blazejewski]

The Republicans have blood on their hands as well. Should the Democrats further pursue this useless course, only then should the Republicans pursue vindictive payback measures. Two stupids don’t make a smart. Let's move on and run the government.

Lee, both sides in Congress in the past have abused their Constitutional oversight responsibilities to cheaply advance their own political agendas.

However, the circumstances attendant to the Trump "Russia Collusion" charges suggest that the Obama administration may have weaponized the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the intelligence community against its political opponents to affect an election, and absent electoral success, to implement a coup d'etat against a duly elected President. If true, that was a direct threat to the people and the Constitutionally-prescribed government of the United States.

Personally, I would like an investigation into the 2015-2019 circumstances, but I would suggest the creation and empowerment of something on the order of the "Warren Commission" or perhaps the "Rockefeller Commission" which investigated the CIA in 1975.

It is essential that politics be kept out of the investigation and findings.

Just my opinion.

[Lee Chowaniec]

Yes, Mark, both sides in Congress in the past have abused their Constitutional oversight responsibilities to cheaply advance their own political agendas. Neither side is to be looked at more favorably in that regard.

However, in today’s climate of ‘fake’ and slanted media coverage, with a disingenuous, manipulative or outright lying political system in place, what is there to be gained or further discovered by the electorate – at least one with common sense.

Enough divisiveness already! If one hasn’t learned by now that they both ‘suck’, that their agendas and best interests transcend that of the country’s, they never will.

It is time to focus on the issues and what direction either party wants to take this country in. Then it becomes a matter of deciding which one ‘sucks’ less – the lesser of two evils.

Right now the Democrats and mainstream media are bleeding. Their strength lay in debasing, weakening and impeaching Trump. They have failed in their quest and any further pursuit is reckless and senseless. However, in reading today’s media reports, they just can’s walk away.

Any pursuit by the Republicans to seek retribution for the pure sake of vindictiveness is equally irresponsible. IMHO!

Move on! Who gives a **** anymore? This debacle is costing us time and money and going nowhere.