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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Yes, Mark, both sides in Congress in the past have abused their Constitutional oversight responsibilities to cheaply advance their own political agendas. Neither side is to be looked at more favorably in that regard.

    However, in today’s climate of ‘fake’ and slanted media coverage, with a disingenuous, manipulative or outright lying political system in place, what is there to be gained or further discovered by the electorate – at least one with common sense.

    Enough divisiveness already! If one hasn’t learned by now that they both ‘suck’, that their agendas and best interests transcend that of the country’s, they never will.

    It is time to focus on the issues and what direction either party wants to take this country in. Then it becomes a matter of deciding which one ‘sucks’ less – the lesser of two evils.

    Right now the Democrats and mainstream media are bleeding. Their strength lay in debasing, weakening and impeaching Trump. They have failed in their quest and any further pursuit is reckless and senseless. However, in reading today’s media reports, they just can’s walk away.

    Any pursuit by the Republicans to seek retribution for the pure sake of vindictiveness is equally irresponsible. IMHO!

    Move on! Who gives a **** anymore? This debacle is costing us time and money and going nowhere.
    I agree Lee. The best interests of the nation would be served by the Republicans and Trump focusing on the Trump agenda and the future, and staying away from retribution. That simply is why I am not endorsing the Grahman-Senate oversight thingy.

    However (if I understand these circumstances correctly), to weaponize DOJ, the FBI and the intelligence community and to politically apply those assets in support of a coup, is much more than a popcorn fart; it is Watergate on steroids, and is a bad as it gets. If the "Collusion Delusion" is left unaddressed, someone needs to explain to me the reason for the exertion of all the legal machinery against Mitchell, Haldeman, Erlichman, Colson, and Nixon.

    If the Republic is going to function and exist within the meaning of the charter document, such transgressions need to be addressed promptly, and not by political hacks.

    Ergo, "The Commission."
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    It is reported that 80% of the American public wants the Mueller report published. I am not opposed to that but am of the mind that both sides will be adversely impacted by the report and the ****storm will continue with no benefit to the public

    Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) maintains he’s seen evidence Trump colluded with Russia. Schiff has the support of party leaders, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who counts him among her closest confidants and most trusted advisers.

    Former CIA director John Brennan now claims he may have been given bad intelligence.

    Lindsey Graham states at the 11th hour that McCain did not leak the FISA report to the press.

    The biased mainstream media is equally pissed and will continue to disseminate slanted reports unfavorable to Trump.

    Send in the clowns! Where are the clowns? They’re here right now!

    What I find most disconcerting and perilous is that this digression will enable the fringe left to promote / advance a socialism system that derides our economic, cultural, and now political system in recently attacking even Obama. A system that plans to change America in its entirety; the enemy within. I was chastised and labeled a 'deplorable' because I didn't vote for Hillary and requested seeing Obama academic record. Now it's ok for an elected member of Congress to call the president a 'mother-f***er and openly state that your first priority in office will be to work to impeach the president. The party of inclusiveness and temperance, I think not!

    A socialist system that entrenches itself by appealing to the masses with promise of all kinds of Utopian programs with no defining plan for achievement; all manner of free stuff with no plan on cost or where the money will come from.

    And what is particularly sad is that a handful of fringe Democrats (so-called media “rising stars”) are moving the Democratic Party to the left (socialism), have threatened party members to run opposing candidates should they not toe their line, and where Ocasio-Cortex had to give her approval for a ‘present vote’ at today’s Senate vote on the New Green Deal – to save the collective asses of those Democrats that would dare vote for this ‘aspirational’ fantasy.

    In my lengthy voting history I have voted for as many Democratic presidential candidates as Republican. Democratic candidates who shared a vision in acting in the best interests of the America people. Where has that party gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post

    In my lengthy voting history I have voted for as many Democratic presidential candidates as Republican. Democratic candidates who shared a vision in acting in the best interests of the America people. Where has that party gone?
    No disrespect intended Lee, but I have not voted in as many elections as you, but I do remember having "favorites" in those races.

    In retrospect, I would have voted for Kennedy.

    I never supported Lyndon Johnson.

    With Watergate foresight, I most probably would have supported Humphrey in 1968. That, as I see it, was the last year that the Democrats offered a nominee that did not have a screw loose.

    Had the Democrat Party nominated Muskie in 1972, with Watergate foresight, or a re-nominated Humphrey, "yes" to both; a "Scoop Jackson" in 1976, especially in a race against Gerald Ford, a definite "yes." But, as far as its actual nominees, McGovern (even with Watergate foresight), Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, HRC, NO WAY!!!

    Ergo, I never voted for a Democrat for President, but I did vote for Perot in 1992.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark blazejewski View Post
    No disrespect intended Lee, but I have not voted in as many elections as you, but I do remember having "favorites" in those races.

    In retrospect, I would have voted for Kennedy.

    I never supported Lyndon Johnson.

    With Watergate foresight, I most probably would have supported Humphrey in 1968. That, as I see it, was the last year that the Democrats offered a nominee that did not have a screw loose.

    Had the Democrat Party nominated Muskie in 1972, with Watergate foresight, or a re-nominated Humphrey, "yes" to both; a "Scoop Jackson" in 1976, especially in a race against Gerald Ford, a definite "yes." But, as far as its actual nominees, McGovern (even with Watergate foresight), Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, HRC, NO WAY!!!

    Ergo, I never voted for a Democrat for President, but I did vote for Perot in 1992.
    Ah, lucky you if you had satisfactory outcomes..

    Unfortunately, I voted for a few presidents on both sides of the aisle who turned out to be disappointments. It is extremely difficult at times to discern the lesser of two evils.

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    Another day of life in the political ****storm

    Today, we hear and learn:

    Trump is terrible at his job. He has made big problems worse, bringing cruelty to our immigration system, denial to the climate crisis, and racism, congenital lying, and bullying to our political discourse. He has scoffed at our allies, launched pointless trade wars, and empowered our enemies. He has presided over an economy that doesn't work for most Americans, who face health care costs that are too high, good jobs that are too scarce and a future that is too uncertain.

    Nothing new there from the party of inclusiveness, tolerance and forgiveness.

    If 2020 Democrats spend most of their time talking about how we can turn that around and ensure that everyone has the opportunity to earn a good life where they live, they will beat Trump the old-fashioned way: at the ballot box.

    The old fashioned way before the Electoral College is abolished and 16-year-olds and illegal immigrants are granted voting rights?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    A majority (56%) says the President and his campaign have not been exonerated of collusion, but that what they've heard or read about the report shows collusion could not be proven. Fewer, 43%, say Trump and his team have been exonerated of collusion.

    Although Mueller could not establish Trump or his campaign "conspired or coordinated with" the Russian government, according to Barr's letter, the poll finds the American people continue to view the issue through partisan lenses.


    This most certainly is not going away – especially when Schiff and Swalwell claim to have irrefutable proof that collusion, conspiracy and obstruction exists.

    Trump takes an imprudent victory lap, saying he is not worried what’s in the Mueller report and then does something imprudent in abolishing Obamacare.

    Maxine Waters having the gall to now say that it was never her intent to have Trump impeached.

    Republicans not content to let the New Green Del wither on the vine mock the plan and Ocasio-Cortex in particular. Two stupids don’t make a smart!

    I do commend Cortez for bringing up issues that have existed in her short lifetime but have been ignored by both parties. Having a difficult time when thinking about giving up beef because of farting cows, air travel, etc. – especially considering her focus is on America’s shortcomings in controlling world pollution when there are other countries with people still ****ting on the streets, or in the woods.

    Hey, isn’t an election supposed to be about the best interests of the public?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Ah, lucky you if you had satisfactory outcomes..

    Unfortunately, I voted for a few presidents on both sides of the aisle who turned out to be disappointments. It is extremely difficult at times to discern the lesser of two evils.
    I was not pleased with Bush '41 and really was only happy with '43's first term. Voted for Ford in '76, and was only happy with that vote compared to his opposition.

    Reagan was my high point; went "blank" in 2008; my Romney vote gives me nightmares.

    As far as Trump, no regrets, if he would only not verbalize or tweet every freakin' thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Ah, lucky you if you had satisfactory outcomes..
    Here is my success record, including non-voting favorites of youth:


    1960 Nixon Loss

    1964 Goldwater Loss

    1968 Nixon Win

    1972 Nixon Win

    1976 Ford Loss

    1980 Reagan Win

    1984 Reagan Win

    1988 Bush Win

    1992 Perot Loss

    1996 Dole Loss

    2000 Bush Win

    2004 Bush Win

    2008 No Endorsement

    2012 Romney Loss

    2016 Trump Win

    Total Record: 8-6-1

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    No disrespect, Mark, but as one born into a depression family, considered a family of the Greatest Generation, past elections are not of primary concern here. Old enough to have lived through the end of WWII and the Korean War, my first vote was cast for Eisenhower. Living through several wars, two recessions and the cold war, I have never been so concerned about the direction this country is taking and for its future.

    I never thought I would live to see a country so divided and polarized to a point where socialism is being accepted by many as an alternative form of government that would protect our rights and enhance our democracy and quality of life.

    The same elected officials who support a socialist form of government, who are being touted by the liberal, biased media as ‘rising stars’ are citing all the ills of our country (and rightfully so), but unfortunately, with no real, practical solutions.

    Freshman Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) unveiled a resolution on Wednesday that would call on the House Judiciary Committee to investigate whether President Trump committed impeachable offenses, received a cool reception from most fellow Democrats. The same Tlaib who was filmed at an event that told supporters that Democrats should "impeach the motherf----r," in reference to Trump.

    In less than three months in office Rep. Ilhan Omar has alienated many with antisemitic remarks while supporting Palestine, proclaimed Islamophobia ‘bad’ and called for Muslim’s to protest against discrimination, and has been accused of ‘hate trafficking’ from both Republicans and those within her own party.

    As for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the media’s new ‘rock star’, her Green New Deal (NGD)proposal is being considered a Soviet-style takeover of our entire economy that would radically transform America into a country that would be very bleak and unrecognizable from what we know and love today.

    The NGD cost is estimated between $60 - $90 trillion, would significantly increase taxes, is impractical regarding putting in place within 10 years, would include getting rid of cows, airplanes, etc. and create hardship for low-income families and middle America.

    The fact that 43 Senate Democrats couldn’t bear to vote ‘yes’ or even ‘no’ on the non-binding resolution because Cortez (the self-appointed party “boss”) brazenly announced that her colleagues should vote present to save their political butts, should be of great concern to the citizens of this country.

    Fortunately Cortez has already walked back the asinine concept of giving taxpayer money to individuals who don’t want to work.

    The three newly elected socialists have been quick to describe the ills of the country, to point out that our environmental policies are killing Americans, yet fall short on solutions that are practical or cost-effective – all appearing to blame Trump for the issues and colluding to debase and impeach the “mother-f***er”.

    Seriously? This is the face of today’s Democratic Party? Debasing our country when in fact millions of people are actually dying to get into the land of opportunity.

    The Democratic Party created these monsters. It cannot control them. The quicker they reign this fringe group in, the better off the party will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    No disrespect, Mark, but as one born into a depression family, considered a family of the Greatest Generation, past elections are not of primary concern here. Old enough to have lived through the end of WWII and the Korean War, my first vote was cast for Eisenhower. .
    No offense taken Lee, and with that experience, your comments and insights are of tremendous value to me.

    When you were voting for Eisenhower, I assume in 1956, I was peeing in my diaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Living through several wars, two recessions and the cold war, I have never been so concerned about the direction this country is taking and for its future.


    I never thought I would live to see a country so divided and polarized to a point where socialism is being accepted by many as an alternative form of government that would protect our rights and enhance our democracy and quality of life.
    My conscious memories of a nation in peril are limited to October, 1962, November, 1963, Vietnam and Watergate, but, I am happy to acknowledge, agree with, and join, in your observations.

    I truly envy your memories of the common national cause that was World War Two, and the pride which your generation, along with the "Greatest Generation," must hold knowing that you built a strong and prosperous nation, which us "Baby Boomers" and our heirs managed to squander through the entitlement mentality, and a failure to recognize just how special America is.

    This is painful enough for me, as a rather anachronistic "Baby Boomer," to witness, let alone one such as yourself, who applied the "sweat equity" into creating a seemingly rejected prosperity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post

    The NGD cost is estimated between $60 - $90 trillion, would significantly increase taxes, is impractical regarding putting in place within 10 years, would include getting rid of cows, airplanes, etc. and create hardship for low-income families and middle America.
    Last night on "Hannity," the President said that "...there is not that much money in the world."

    Perhaps an exaggerated comment, but accurate as to realistic application.

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    I HOPE WE ALL DODGED A BULLET!

    In My Opinion:

    Think not for a minute that the characterization of the "Russia Collusion" narrative as "A failed Communist/Socialist coup" is an exaggeration. To the contrary, it may be an understatement, because I fear that the revolutionary game may not have entirely played-out.

    But, to date, this is what seems to have happened:

    In "The Big Lie" tradition of Lenin, the ultra-Left Main Stream Media, "Deep State" Socialist and Communist actors residing within the leadership of the FBI and the Intel Community, along with some of the highest ranking officials of the Obama administration, promulgated what in my opinion was the greatest hoax in American history, and nearly overthrew the Constitutionally elected government of the United States.

    Understand, many, if not all, of the earmarks of a Socialist/Communist coup were present in the "Russia" situation.

    Without reference to the infiltration of the Trump campaign, the creation and weaponization of "The Dossier," and the myriad of other known and unknown tactics, circumstances, and actors, the events of 2015-2019 are replete with examples from the Lenin playbook.

    To wit:

    Essential to the Lenin blueprint was the pre-preemptive effort to seize the semantic "high ground."

    Consider, at the 1903 party conference, Lenin, representing a controversial faction, became a member of the congress by one vote. Thereafter, he termed his faction "the Bolsheviks," or majoritarians, and his opponents "Mensheviks," or minoritarians.

    On a exaggeration, Lenin conveyed the accepted idea that his "Bolsheviks" represented the true majority of the revolutionaries, and reduced the significance of his opposition.

    Ergo, the perception created transcended the present reality.

    Sound familiar?

    The Left constantly employs twisted semantics to advance their evil agenda.

    For example, in New York State, infanticide is now called the "Reproductive Health Act." The problem is, the tasteful and popular perception of that term is contradicted by the functional application of the captioned law, which exclusively protects the whismical health desires of the mother, not the life sustaining health of the reproduced product. But the term sounds so noble.

    Now to Left's post November 8, 2016 semantics:

    The Constitutionally prescribed Electoral College be damned, "Trump lost the popular vote," so he is not a legitimate President. The Socialists advanced an entirely irrelevant observation, albeit complete with a self-contained deceitful undertone.

    Next, the Leftist revolutionaries extended the boundaries of desperation, with its creation of a second unsupported narrative: "The Russians" changed votes in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

    Enter Jill Stein and a sycophantic Main Stream Media. Ah, count every vote, because every vote counts; count them by hand if need be, and count them away from objective eyes.

    To do otherwise confirms that the suspicion that Trump is not a legitimate President.

    Again, there was nothing to support that narrative, but through semantics, the questions of Trump's legitimacy were again widely circulated, and the initial perception was reinforced.

    Step three of the semantics war, late December and early January, 2017:

    The law enforcement and intelligence assets of the United States government suggest the existence a "Dossier," wherein the Russians had compromising information on the President-elect.

    During the campaign, Trump must have known, and acted in concert with Putin in order to become the elected leader of the United States, to exclusively serve Putin's interests.

    As I see things, it all kind of fits the Lenin playbook.

    But, back to reality: As the Bolsheviks were never a majority revolutionary faction, equally, Donald Trump was never an illegitimate President.

    Part two of Lenin's revolutionary blue print was the "demonization" of his opponents.

    Lenin was superb at reducing the human dignity of his enemies. His glossary of insults included "bloodsuckers," "insects," "spiders," "leeches" and "vampires."

    To Lenin, the bourgeois were "ex-people," and others not on-board with the Lenin program, such as the more prosperous peasant "Kulaks" were referred to as "hoarders," "wreckers," "saboteurs."

    Now, let us transfer our learning to 2015-2019:

    Donald Trump the "Abuser of women."

    Donald Trump the "Racist."

    Donald Trump the "Colluder."

    Donald Trump the "Traitor."

    Donald Trump, "Anti-LGBTQ."

    Donald Trump and his rabble: "The Deplorables."

    To underscore the controlled message suggesting the existence of an illegitimate demon President, serving exclusively the interests of his band of "Deplorables," over forty members of Congress, including Nadler, boycotted the Presidential Inauguration. In the American tradition, an unheard of snub.

    The third tenant of Lenin's revolutionary bible is the oft-referred "Never let a crisis go to waste."

    Simply put, as Lenin exploited wartime food shortages and the misery of World War One to execute his revolution, so too it seems that 2015-2019 Socialist revolutionaries employed parallel tactics in order to reduce and perhaps imperil the Trump Presidency.

    Consider that such exploitation may have resided in the so-called migrant caravans, Charllotsville, the Covington students, and the Smollett incident, all of which were perhaps deliberately contrived, or gratuitously distorted, in order to create an immediate crisis, which in turn, would tend to foster the perceptions of the racist, homophobic, illegitimate, demon President, and his unwashed band of "Deplorables."

    The final, but perhaps most crucial, component to the Lenin playbook was propaganda and the control of public information.

    Lenin was pretty much straight forward.

    To preserve the ideas of the revolution and to control thought, churches were destroyed and de-legitimized.

    Also, with a free press shut down, party organs exclusively, without regard to news or thoughtful analysis, roboticly repeated the inspirational mantras "All power to the Soviets" and "Bread! Peace! Land!"

    Did you ever see a montage of the Main Stream Media's daily prayer "Trump, Russia, Collusion," or the rantings of the new Leftist Socialist members of Congress barking about identity politics and the Green New Deal?

    Enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post

    A socialist system that entrenches itself by appealing to the masses with promise of all kinds of Utopian programs with no defining plan for achievement; all manner of free stuff with no plan on cost or where the money will come from.
    As per the Socialist/Communist playbook Lee: Bunkum for the masses.

    Again, consider the "Worker's Paradise" that Lenin promised the Russian people:

    In contrast to the Czar and Kerensky, Lenin promised a free press, only to shut down opposition newspapers and impose censorship on his second day in power.

    Lenin promised to broaden land ownership, but took immediate steps to end private property, which included expunging records of landownership and businesses before anyone could react.

    Lenin's promised withdrawal from World War One notwithstanding, he quickly created the new Red Army, and conscripted the newly discharged Czarist soldiers and sailors into his USSR service. That service was necessary in order fight his pre-planned civil war, which was aimed at Lenin's complete consolidation of power.

    Contradicting his promises of "Bread! Peace! Land!," Lenin not unleashed his civil war, but also a reign of terror, honoring his creed: "Power based on force, not law."

    Lenin, like Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Hitler are the Socialist/Communist gold standards, not the exceptions.

    Is America really foolish enough to seriously consider, let alone buy, this dangerous Democrat ult-Left Socialist crap?
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    Excellent historical tutorials, Mark. Unfortunately, it’s factual comparative narrative will be lost on most of recent generations that know nothing of past history, so much so that can’t even name the presidents of their own generation.

    They have no idea of what made this country prosper or how well off this country is in comparison to other countries. Millions of immigrants are living here legally, millions illegally, and millions more wanting to come to America.

    And yet, some of those same immigrants who settled here and now hold office are trying to tell us that our system of government is tyrannical, socially bankrupt, economically unfair and racist.

    And, the liberal media fawns over them and gives them undue voice. Trillions of dollars required to foster a New Green Deal concept to clean the environment otherwise we will be dead in 12 years. Fear mongering to the max.

    Former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson acknowledged today the severity of the crisis on the U.S.-Mexico border. Yes there is a border crisis. Illegals are now being released and flooding the Texas streets. And the left continues to ignore the crisis – media and presidential candidates as well, and where Beto O’Rourke promises to remove some of the border wall if elected.

    We are in the middle of a ****storm, stirred up by a president hated and mistrusted at every turn and by the left who are struggling in vain (and acting foolishly) to find an agenda that appeals to centrists. I am not for giving up farting cows when there are countries where people still **** in the streets - including ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Excellent historical tutorials, Mark. Unfortunately, it’s factual comparative narrative will be lost on most of recent generations that know nothing of past history, so much so that can’t even name the presidents of their own generation.
    Lee, when I taught, textbooks were pretty much straight forward on facts. If there was a slant, and I'm not saying there was, it would most probably favor American exceptionalism, and be critical, or at least completely factual of, Socialist, Communist and other totalitarian regimes.

    On occasions when a historical narrative seemed to fail to present the "full story," I would carefully observe to the class "There has been research which suggests a different version..." and I then offer to interested students an opportunity to independently pursue that research, and, present their findings to the class in the form of a research paper-based discussion.

    Clear conscience on my part. I strictly observed the syllabus and text provided the students, and supplemented that curricula with an encouraged opportunity to learn more, and in fact, to teach others.

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    They have no idea of what made this country prosper or how well off this country is in comparison to other countries.
    I will not criticize my successor peers, but I'm just throwing my methods out here for some possible consideration.

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    And yet, some of those same immigrants who settled here and now hold office are trying to tell us that our system of government is tyrannical, socially bankrupt, economically unfair and racist.
    Spot on Lee! You profoundly suggest that something more than the historical immigration-assimilation processes may be in play in today's America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson acknowledged today the severity of the crisis on the U.S.-Mexico border. Yes there is a border crisis. Illegals are now being released and flooding the Texas streets. And the left continues to ignore the crisis – media and presidential candidates as well, and where Beto O’Rourke promises to remove some of the border wall if elected.
    If sincere, Secretary Johnson needs to be commended for his objective independence, or perhaps congratulated, if his is a reaction to the Mueller Report.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    We are in the middle of a ****storm, stirred up by a president hated and mistrusted at every turn and by the left who are struggling in vain (and acting foolishly) to find an agenda that appeals to centrists. I am not for giving up farting cows when there are countries where people still **** in the streets - including ours.
    Well said Mr. C.
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