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    Hey Mark:

    Thanks for sharing.

    While it appears we both share our dislike for Biden and Trump, your concern over the history and politics of Shanahan and her potential influence over Kennedy is not shared by me. As a Democrat she was free to support whoever she chose from her party. Since aligning with Kennedy (a Democrat becoming an Independent) she appears to have taken on his agenda. As such, her history becomes irrelevant IMHO. Hopefully, Kennedy and Shanahan will remain moderate liberals and not succumb to the fringe radical left as Biden has done.

    A lifelong unaffiliated registered voter, a generator older than you, I have come to see Biden over his political career as being weak in leadership skills, a lying flip flopper, crass and a nasty, vindictive, self-aggrandizing and totally inept in advancing policies that have put our country in a position of decline; one that is less safe and secure than ever in my lifetime. The great uniter? I don’t think so!

    Trump is no better than Biden and may likely lose to Biden in the end because how much of the thug Trump can anyone take. Apparently, his spineless political cohorts will continue to kiss his ring and endorse him, ride with him to possible defeat, well knowing that Haley had a better opportunity of defeating Biden.

    While you appear fixated and concerned about Shanahan as vice-president, how can one not be equally concerned about the inept Kamala Harris in that position – and/or Trumps running mate who may have spoken ill of Trump during the primary campaign but will fawn all over him to get the position.

    What will be important in the next seven months is what comes out of Kennedy’s mouth, how the media slices & dices him to diminish his chance of winning, how far left he drifts.

    Truth-to-power: Shanahan’s influence so far is her money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Hey Mark:

    Thanks for sharing.

    While it appears we both share our dislike for Biden and Trump, your concern over the history and politics of Shanahan and her potential influence over Kennedy is not shared by me. As a Democrat she was free to support whoever she chose from her party. Since aligning with Kennedy (a Democrat becoming an Independent) she appears to have taken on his agenda.

    What will be important in the next seven months is what comes out of Kennedy’s mouth, how the media slices & dices him to diminish his chance of winning, how far left he drifts.
    As I said in post #4065, I really want to learn more about the ticket, and if Kennedy keeps on the message which currently compels me to support him, great, I will vote for him.

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    I truly like Kennedy's position on many issues...

    I still want to learn more about the Kennedy-Shanahan ticket.



    Your point about her apparent submission to the Kennedy agenda is encouraging, and is welcomed news for me. Many Vice Presidential candidates in the past have disagreed with the Presidential nominee before their selection, but subsequently have, at least publicly, departed their own prior political inclinations in the interests of becoming a loyal number two.

    In that connection, you and I both remember the powerful Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson, seemed to accept Senator John Kennedy's agenda; Spiro Agnew quickly forgot about his previous support for both Romney and Rockefeller in 1968, and of course George H.W. Bush embraced the "voodoo economics" of Ronald Reagan.

    Nevertheless, I remain concerned, and those concerns are two-fold with Shanahan:

    First, given her ability to bankroll the Kennedy campaign, I am concerned about her potential power to hijack the campaign and the Kennedy agenda that I favor so much.

    Second, and most importantly, Kennedy is not a young man, and just given his family history, I am inclined to measure his running mate with extra scrutiny.

    Shanahan is very young, does not appear to have any measurable experience in government, and has not, to the best of my knowledge, demonstrated any significant interest or expertise in the fields of military and foreign affairs.

    As such, I think it is only reasonable to ask: "Is President Shanahan, not Vice President Shanahan, but President Shanahan, fully equipped to be entrusted with the nuclear launch codes?"

    Also, even assuming that Shanahan as Vice President would support the Kennedy program, as President, would that support extend into a Shanahan administration?

    In any event, I will not vote for or support Trump or Biden, there is not question about that. They are both discredited and obnoxious.

    With that said, at this point in time, my support is still with Kennedy, but it is now a support for Kennedy to lose.
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    Who is Nicole Shanahan? RFK Jr’s VP choice

    She checks all my boxes, has made the RFK Jr. campaign more viable and a threat to both the Democrats and Republicans. A choice for 'anyone but Biden or Trump' voters.

    Kennedy’s vision is Shanahan’s vision. Kenedy’s campaign is going to be a game changer in that it will compel Biden and Trump to actually produce a campaign agenda based on issues and solutions, not lies and propaganda, vindictiveness / divisiveness / hate.

    The line between “long shot” and “the people’s choice” has become much narrower than many believe.

    Opinion: Biden and Trump know Kennedy’s VP choice is a game changer
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...62cf5c0d&ei=17

    RFK Jr. has a higher favorability rating than both Biden and Trump. He is also the favorite of voters under 35 years old, as well as independents, and is gaining rapidly among minorities — three constituencies that Kennedy now has a chance to grow substantially thanks to his selection yesterday of Nicole Shanahan as his running mate.

    The 38-year-old Shanahan has a remarkable life story. She grew up on welfare, is Asian American, a lawyer, the California-based founder and president of Bia-Echo Foundation — a nonprofit that issues grants for issues including reproductive rights, equality, criminal justice reform and the environment — is a single mother to a daughter with autism and is the former wife of Google cofounder Sergey Brin.

    Aside from her entrepreneurial background, high energy and intelligence, Shanahan immediately amplifies or outright fills multiple needs of the Kennedy campaign. She can speak directly to female voters, the high-tech community, young voters, minority voters, the working poor, the disenfranchised — and dissatisfied Democrats.

    Shanahan also immediately checks another critical box for Kennedy: Multiple states require an announced vice-presidential running mate to get on the ballot. With Shanahan now on the ticket, it will create both media attention and increased momentum within those states.

    As detailed in a previous column, the Democrats now seem to be in a full-blown meltdown regarding Kennedy’s independent run. Not only has it not fizzled out, as many of them predicted, but it appears to be settling down upon a solid foundation of populism. A foundation Shanahan can expand widely.

    Shanahan is going to be a force of nature when it comes to Kennedy’s campaign getting the needed ballot access. Shanahan — as she spoke to in her remarks — is very wealthy. More than that, she has extremely close connections to the mega-donor class. As such, it can be assumed that the Biden and Trump teams are most fearful of this statement Shanahan made in speech yesterday: “Please, listen to Bobby Kennedy in his own words. Take a close look at his vision for America. It is a vision that I share too as I back his campaign and focus the next seven months of my life getting him on each and every ballot in this country.”

    Kennedy recently addressed this challenge in a post on X, formerly Twitter: “The will of the people is being thwarted by corruption and cronyism from Secretary Mayorkas, the Biden administration, and the politicization of our federal agencies. They want me out of this race by any means necessary and are refusing me Secret Service protection in a calculated effort to drain my campaign funds, exclude me from the ballot, and stop the movement that we’ve been building.”

    Shanahan can now stop and reverse that “calculated effort to drain” the Kennedy campaign of funds. And then some.

    One of the many reasons is this statement from her remarks yesterday: “I come to you today as a former Democrat. I come to you as a woman not quite 40. I come to you as someone who has experienced sickness and health and poverty and wealth. And finally, I come to you as a mother … Initially, it was as a mother that I came to support this campaign … I joined the many, many groups of mothers who support this candidacy. They are Republicans and Democrats and independents … If you ask me who my heroes are, that’s who, it’s the moms trying to make a normal life for their children in a world that has gone crazy.”

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