Had enough yet

[Lee Chowaniec]

If you can't play and win by the rules, you change them.

This is getting more interesting by the day. One man against 'deep state operatives' leaking copiously, a biased media and presidential candidates offering socialism and all kinds of free stuff.

[mark blazejewski]

One man against 'deep state operatives' leaking copiously, a biased media and presidential candidates offering socialism and all kinds of free stuff.

Not a knee-jerk reaction on my part, but IMHO, many of the earmarks of revolution and a coup are eerily present here Lee.

As I observed when this thread began, Trump is the closest America has come to electing a third party candidate. His selection appears to have been a reaction to the corrupt status quo present in both political parties and a reflection of the anger of those who despise the new age social hogwash.

Although not a precise example, and I know full well that my comments certainly will lend themselves to push-back, the above-referred reaction and reflection is somewhat analogous to the political circumstanstance that was present in pre-Soviet Russia. Disenchant of over the Russian involvement in World War One, the perceived abuse of the working and peasant classes, as well as the corruption of the Romanovs, led to a political "change" convulsion in Russia, which demanded the overthrow of the monarchy.

HRC's defeat perhaps can be compared with the overthrow of the Czar; Trump's election may possibly be compared to the installation of the Provisional government under Kerensky and now, the 2019 Socialist Democrat candidates suggesting the role of the lurking Lenin, IMHO.

Like Kerensky, Trump's governance appears to have angered both the Left and the Right. As in 1917, and the American Socialists/Communists of 2017-2019 are exploiting the dissatisfaction and confusion, but instead of offering the 1917 "peace, land, and bread," they offer all sorts of "FREE STUFF."

BTW, Lenin in 1917, also pledged to the Russian "workers and exploited people" his commitment to their right to possess fire arms; in 1918 he ordered the population to surrender those firearms.

I guess what I am suggesting Lee is that America is on the brink of a Socialist/Communist/ revolutionary coup.

Ah, the sun appears to be rising on the "New World Order."

[Lee Chowaniec]

Like others have posted, Trump was not our 2016 primary selection. We voted for the man at election time because we were ‘anyone but Hillary’ voters. Many others felt the same and Trump was elected.

Three years later while we openly declare out dissatisfaction with myriad Trump personal traits and political decisions, we find the presidential candidates opposing Trump offering a socialistic agenda that is onerous to us and where the Democratic as well as the Republican Parties are more involved in their best interests over that of the country.

In the process of sharing an opinion of a candidate running for office, an opposing opinion is too often not based on the subject matter, but an attempt is made to distort the topic of discussion and/or to demean / character assassinate one’s rival; and to label them in such heinous manner that does not fit their character at all.
Free speech and opinion are only welcome when it benefits the side taken.

We should be embarrassed by what’s taking place by both political parties and the resulting divisiveness. But hey, that’s what makes politics the **** game that it is – even more disturbing is the radical fringe on both sides who support the political extremists.

There isn’t enough resources in the world to investigate / vet every Congress member or political operative the way Trump has been. It would be nice though, and to get rid of all the sanctimonious schmucks who have practiced like transgressions.

[mark blazejewski]

Like others have posted, Trump was not our 2016 primary selection. We voted for the man at election time because we were ‘anyone but Hillary’ voters. Many others felt the same and Trump was elected.

As one kindred with you in 2016, I have to write that in 2020, my vote while be cast in defiance of those who would mischievously nullify my previous vote, and deprive the Trump electorate its right to select.

[Lee Chowaniec]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...eec_story.html

An interesting perspective in today’s divisive, hateful world of doom and gloom.

[Lee Chowaniec]

https://www.vcstar.com/story/opinion...rd/3934791002/

Trump likes to say he “defeated” the Islamic State. Actually, the bulk of the fighting was done by our Kurdish allies, trained and supported by U.S. Special Operations forces. As Gen. Joseph Votel, who served as commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East, explains, “Over four years, the SDF freed tens of thousands of square miles and millions of people from the grip of ISIS. Throughout the fight, it sustained nearly 11,000 casualties. By comparison, six U.S. service members, as well as two civilians, have been killed in the anti-ISIS campaign.”

President Trump, what the hell were you thinking when you threw the Kurds under the bus?

[Lee Chowaniec]

A light at the end of the tunnel?

Despite a strong economy, low unemployment, etc., Trump’s foreign policy has to scare the **** out of any reasonable individual.

The platform of the far-left Democratic presidential candidates has to scare the **** out of any individual who loathes socialism and where undocumented foreigners are afforded same rights as American citizens.

The far-left candidates are now under attack by the more moderate candidates within the party and there is even discussion taking place within the Democratic party to look elsewhere for a candidate. The same can be said for the Republican Party.

Wishful thinking? Too late?

[Breezy]

Wishful thinking?

Delusional for sure! What the heck were you smoking early this morning?

LOL

[mark blazejewski]

A light at the end of the tunnel?

Despite a strong economy, low unemployment, etc., Trump’s foreign policy has to scare the **** out of any reasonable individual.

The platform of the far-left Democratic presidential candidates has to scare the **** out of any individual who loathes socialism and where undocumented foreigners are afforded same rights as American citizens.

The far-left candidates are now under attack by the more moderate candidates within the party and there is even discussion taking place within the Democratic party to look elsewhere for a candidate. The same can be said for the Republican Party.

Wishful thinking? Too late?

The election of the unwashed Trump was a national reaction to the dangerous Socialist/Globalist march toward exclusive elitist rule and its ultimate goal of one world government. The Globalist want to overturn the decision of the voters, and in so doing, punish the "Deplorables."

At this point, to support Trump is not about supporting the man or the even his policies. It is about protecting the Constitutional guarantees of the electoral system, and the integrity of the intended impeachment/removal process, IMHO.

As I see it, it is a battle to protect the Constitution from the Globalists, and the Globalists from themselves.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

A light at the end of the tunnel?Despite a strong economy, low unemployment, etc., Trump’s foreign policy has to scare the **** out of any reasonable individual.

You seem to project that you are a reasonable individual. So what exactly scares the **** out of you with Trump's foreign policy? Do you want to get specific and talk about his approach to the Middle East? Do you want to talk about China? Maybe touch on Trade/Climate Change and based that on the Paris climate accord?

You seem to want to project that you speak for 'many' of the Trump voters and present your inference as fact. Not quite...

I am a voter and I am tired of the US being the police for the world. I am tired of shipping our men and women around the globe to fight in fights that are not ours. I am tired of leaders from other nations talking sh*t about the US to our face, while at the same time, hiding like cowards behind our back.

It's time for Japan to step up. It's time for the UK to step up. It's time for Germany to step up. It's time for France to step up. It's time for the rest of the EU to step up. They have men and women as well to ship around the world. So send them to the Middle East to get between people who have been fighting each other since the dawn of time. They have money to spend. Let them pay for the tab to police the world.

I'd like to have the US focus on taking care of people in the US. If this is the foreign policy has to scare the **** out of any reasonable individual....well they are not that reasonable. They are cowards.

[Lee Chowaniec]

Delusional for sure! What the heck were you smoking early this morning?

LOL

Ah, you smooth, devious talker!

Who else could take a wistful desire to return to government normalcy where compromise is had in the best interest of the country into a charge of someone having a mental disorder and a drug problem?

Independents, especially blanks, are not bound to party affiliation ideology. Unlike a political operative like you, they see the shortcomings of all political parties.

Your party speaks of tolerance and inclusion. You certainly are not a good example of either.

If you believe there is no political chaos in this country or globally, that your party and the Republican party are not equally responsible for the malaise, consider yourself delusional.

To hope for an end to polarization, divisiveness, identity politics, etc. is delusional, really?

I have stated for years: With rare exception all politicians suck! Today's inept, dysfunctional government best exemplifies that charge.

[WNYresident]

Your party speaks of tolerance and inclusion. You certainly are not a good example of either.

You know they are bull****ters.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

You know they are bull****ters.

You are a Russian asset!!!!

[WNYresident]

Hillary takes the cake though. The Russians!!!!!!

[Lee Chowaniec]

Hillary takes the cake though. The Russians!!!!!!

Uraniun One is back. She wants in. The Democratic Party presidential pack is so bad she is being given consideration.

What a country!