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    Quote Originally Posted by OutsidetheBox View Post
    I can't speak for "the left" as that is such a broad, generic term. For myself however, I can state that I dislike Trump as a person, and I also don't agree with the vast majority of his policies. I'm sure many on "the left" can distinguish between the two but most probably dislike both parts about him as well. His policies are far too short sighted and are on course to setting this nation back decades in terms of energy, environmental and social issues

    The social issues such as transgender bathrooms you can have. Hiliary who was a self proclaimed champion and good representation for Dems was the antithesis of social progress.

    The left basically sees the government in an expanding role to service society, which is hilarious because it's flat broke. The right basically sees the triumph of the individual by less government. I think we waste a lot of money in the military but this is probably a good time in this world to not short that. As far as the economy is concerned when can you remember the last time we had 3% GDP, low unemployment, high consumer confidence etc etc.? Socialism doesn't work. The war on poverty hasn't worked either.

    I am dissapointed in his environmental/energy stance. The people wanted somebody to do something about our economy, trade practices, and imbalances, bringing work back by lowering corporate tax rates..
    The populace has decided to drive to work rather than bike in the sustainable weather.

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    Equally interesting

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.be12928a72a4

    No collusion here. Another example of a matrix that could be designed that parallels a vicious circle which begs the question “what’s the point?” They all suck!

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    So going back to 2015 you have:


    1. The 'Clinton org' take over the DNC in the shadows and drain the coffers, while at the same time, rigging the nomination process.
    2. People like Brazile claiming President Obama and Secretary Clinton ran the party into the ground and in debt with 'payments' to think tanks for 'services'
    3. Obama and Clinton dealing uranium to Russia for money


    But with all of this, let's focus on a $300k or so of social media ads by Russia and claim that this influenced the election. Nevermind that this spend was 0.05% of the $81 million spent by Clinton and Trump.


    The outright stupidity of so many people in the US and on this message board to be completely blind to what is right in front of them and to be manipulated like they are is both sad and funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    So going back to 2015 you have:


    1. The 'Clinton org' take over the DNC in the shadows and drain the coffers, while at the same time, rigging the nomination process.
    2. People like Brazile claiming President Obama and Secretary Clinton ran the party into the ground and in debt with 'payments' to think tanks for 'services'
    3. Obama and Clinton dealing uranium to Russia for money


    But with all of this, let's focus on a $300k or so of social media ads by Russia and claim that this influenced the election. Nevermind that this spend was 0.05% of the $81 million spent by Clinton and Trump.


    The outright stupidity of so many people in the US and on this message board to be completely blind to what is right in front of them and to be manipulated like they are is both sad and funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post


    The outright stupidity of so many people in the US and on this message board to be completely blind to what is right in front of them and to be manipulated like they are is both sad and funny.
    It more sad than funny.


    I'm going to start at thread quoting this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    So going back to 2015 you have:


    1. The 'Clinton org' take over the DNC in the shadows and drain the coffers, while at the same time, rigging the nomination process.
    2. People like Brazile claiming President Obama and Secretary Clinton ran the party into the ground and in debt with 'payments' to think tanks for 'services'
    3. Obama and Clinton dealing uranium to Russia for money


    But with all of this, let's focus on a $300k or so of social media ads by Russia and claim that this influenced the election. Nevermind that this spend was 0.05% of the $81 million spent by Clinton and Trump.


    The outright stupidity of so many people in the US and on this message board to be completely blind to what is right in front of them and to be manipulated like they are is both sad and funny.
    Try ignoring the stories about the Facebook ads, but don't criticize people who think Russia shouldn't be buying Facebook ads. Most people ignore stuff that bothers them. 300k is still a lot of loose change.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    So going back to 2015 you have:


    1. The 'Clinton org' take over the DNC in the shadows and drain the coffers, while at the same time, rigging the nomination process.
    2. People like Brazile claiming President Obama and Secretary Clinton ran the party into the ground and in debt with 'payments' to think tanks for 'services'
    3. Obama and Clinton dealing uranium to Russia for money


    But with all of this, let's focus on a $300k or so of social media ads by Russia and claim that this influenced the election. Nevermind that this spend was 0.05% of the $81 million spent by Clinton and Trump.


    The outright stupidity of so many people in the US and on this message board to be completely blind to what is right in front of them and to be manipulated like they are is both sad and funny.
    Couldn't have said this better myself...you stopped at 3. but of course that list goes to into the hundreds...

    To be fair it's news sources such as CNN, NBC.. that peddle fake leftist crap people are watching .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    Couldn't have said this better myself...you stopped at 3. but of course that list goes to into the hundreds...

    To be fair it's news sources such as CNN, NBC.. that peddle fake leftist crap people are watching .

    Like The Democratic Money Behind Russia-gate or how the Clinton funded Fusion GPS was meeting with the same Russian Natalia Veselnitskaya...before and after on the same day as the Trump Jr Meeting?

    This is all just a giant distraction for those of tiny minds. Most Americans need something to be upset about and something to focus on. So Russia is that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    Like The Democratic Money Behind Russia-gate or how the Clinton funded Fusion GPS was meeting with the same Russian Natalia Veselnitskaya...before and after on the same day as the Trump Jr Meeting?

    This is all just a giant distraction for those of tiny minds. Most Americans need something to be upset about and something to focus on. So Russia is that.
    Yes and still there is no evidence of collusion etc. We have the best intelligence apparatus in the world and still nothing. It is frightening how stupid people are. I actually think Hillary could be the anti-Christ, Wasserman-Shultz, Pelosi and their ilk are lower level demons.

    My favorite nonsense I am following now is the gun control debate. More knee-jerk stupidity. I often wonder how this country even exists with all the idiocy in leadership positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    Yes and still there is no evidence of collusion etc. We have the best intelligence apparatus in the world and still nothing.
    You DO know that most of the data and evidence in this case still sits behind a cloak of classification, right? The notion that you have not seen evidence in public doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, but that it has not (cannot) yet been revealed.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    Yes and still there is no evidence of collusion etc. We have the best intelligence apparatus in the world and still nothing. It is frightening how stupid people are. I actually think Hillary could be the anti-Christ, Wasserman-Shultz, Pelosi and their ilk are lower level demons.

    My favorite nonsense I am following now is the gun control debate. More knee-jerk stupidity. I often wonder how this country even exists with all the idiocy in leadership positions.
    I don't understand this argument. I don't understand Trump Supporters denial of the Russia controversy. I don't understand the "What about Hillary" responses. The Trump scandals and Hillary scandals are separate entities, both real, both needing further investigation. One does not eclipse the other except in the sense that Trump is now President and Hillary is not.

    Regarding the deniers, 9 members of Trump's campaign staff met with Russians during the campaign. Arguing about their position or importance for the campaign is a moot point. Say it again, Nine members of Trump's campaign staff met with Russians during the campaign. This is not speculation, nor conjecture nor media hype or "fake news." It's fact, inequivocabile and true. Wasn't it the anti Hillary crowd (And just for the record, I am anti-Hillary) that said over and over, "where there's smoke, there's fire"?

    Again, 9 members of Trump's campaign staff met with Russians during the campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    I don't understand this argument. I don't understand Trump Supporters denial of the Russia controversy. I don't understand the "What about Hillary" responses. The Trump scandals and Hillary scandals are separate entities, both real, both needing further investigation. One does not eclipse the other except in the sense that Trump is now President and Hillary is not.

    Regarding the deniers, 9 members of Trump's campaign staff met with Russians during the campaign. Arguing about their position or importance for the campaign is a moot point. Say it again, Nine members of Trump's campaign staff met with Russians during the campaign. This is not speculation, nor conjecture nor media hype or "fake news." It's fact, inequivocabile and true. Wasn't it the anti Hillary crowd (And just for the record, I am anti-Hillary) that said over and over, "where there's smoke, there's fire"?

    Again, 9 members of Trump's campaign staff met with Russians during the campaign.
    Separate entities indeed; both needing investigation, indeed.

    Hillary and Obama should not get a pass for their suspected misdeeds because they are no longer in office. They should have been held to the same standards and the same relentless media and investigation coverage now taking place against Trump.

    And how many of Obama's cabinet members met with Russians and/or conducted business with them during the Obama/Clinton administration. No collusion there, right? Move on, right?

    What I really appreciate about Trump is his draining the swamp of alligators from both parties. He has them all scared ****less that they will be exposed that some are not seeking re-election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    I don't understand this argument. I don't understand Trump Supporters denial of the Russia controversy. I don't understand the "What about Hillary" responses. The Trump scandals and Hillary scandals are separate entities, both real, both needing further investigation. One does not eclipse the other except in the sense that Trump is now President and Hillary is not.

    Regarding the deniers, 9 members of Trump's campaign staff met with Russians during the campaign. Arguing about their position or importance for the campaign is a moot point. Say it again, Nine members of Trump's campaign staff met with Russians during the campaign. This is not speculation, nor conjecture nor media hype or "fake news." It's fact, inequivocabile and true. Wasn't it the anti Hillary crowd (And just for the record, I am anti-Hillary) that said over and over, "where there's smoke, there's fire"?

    Again, 9 members of Trump's campaign staff met with Russians during the campaign.
    Like I said, we have the greatest intelligence apparatus in the world.. and what have we got?...Nothing, nada, zip. What about Congress and the Senate? I am pretty sure they didn't throw those elections either.

    Wasn't Hilliary doing something with the Russians during the election?

    At some point it would be nice to start focusing on real issues affecting us and our country.

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