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    Hillary is a nobody now. She can cry all she wants but her words are just that of a typically sore loser.

    But I want to take to task Lee's comments about Wall Street money influencing the left and "liberal Alligators" with a simple call to look at Trump's cabinet and the conflict of interest there with not only ties to Wall Street but to corporate conglomerates that have incredible influence on the planet, such as the ex CEO of Exxon-Mobile as Sect. of State. He chose Steven Mnuchin, a former Goldman Sachs executive and hedge fund manager, to be Treasury Secretary. Wilbur Ross, a billionaire private equity investor, is his choice for Commerce secretary. He selected Elaine Chao, a former banker, as Transportation Secretary, and billionaire Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education.

    Go figure. When Trump said he won’t let Wall Street get away with murder, he meant he’d simply give them the whole store without having to face any resistance at all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Hillary is a nobody now. She can cry all she wants but her words are just that of a typically sore loser.

    But I want to take to task Lee's comments about Wall Street money influencing the left and "liberal Alligators" with a simple call to look at Trump's cabinet and the conflict of interest there with not only ties to Wall Street but to corporate conglomerates that have incredible influence on the planet, such as the ex CEO of Exxon-Mobile as Sect. of State. He chose Steven Mnuchin, a former Goldman Sachs executive and hedge fund manager, to be Treasury Secretary. Wilbur Ross, a billionaire private equity investor, is his choice for Commerce secretary. He selected Elaine Chao, a former banker, as Transportation Secretary, and billionaire Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education.

    Go figure. When Trump said he won’t let Wall Street get away with murder, he meant he’d simply give them the whole store without having to face any resistance at all!
    See HipKat, we can agree on other things. The Mnuchin pick contradicted Trump's attacks on primary opponent Ted Cruz for his ties to Wall Street, primarily through his wife's association with Goldman Sachs.

    I also do not like the Tillerman pick. I can not help but think that he could have found a foreign policy guy with diplomatic experience that was not in the Globalist camp.

    Therein lies my broader point: Both sides engage in disingenuous, self-serving demagoguery, aka hosrs***.

    The vicious attacks and contrived narratives about Trump can be attributed to that. The whacky Obama conspiracy theories can be relegated to the same trash can.

    It is preferable to give a President a chance to execute the his/her agenda and do the business of the people, without being encumbered by these unsupported and politically contrived distractions. The citizen will eventually assess the acceptability of the President's program at the ballot box.

    In the case of Trump, I do not blame the Democrats, but the biased mainstream media.

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    The media has been vicious for sure and manipulative, which is something that needs to be squelched. News should report news, not biased opinions, but that's another can of worms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    The media has been vicious for sure and manipulative, which is something that needs to be squelched. News should report news, not biased opinions, but that's another can of worms.
    HipKat, our common ground is getting scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark blazejewski View Post
    HipKat, our common ground is getting scary.
    See?? I told you, I'm way more centered than most people think lol

    Truthfully though, the things we agree on aren't politically biased or influenced, their just common sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    See?? I told you, I'm way more centered than most people think lol

    Truthfully though, the things we agree on aren't politically biased or influenced, their just common sense
    Point well taken and understood.

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    [QUOTE=HipKat;1710398]

    Hillary is a nobody now. She can cry all she wants but her words are just that of a typically sore loser
    I wish that were true (that Hillary has become irrelevant) but I don’t see it that way as many on the left continue to maintain that her message was on point but not delivered to the unwashed middle class. Yes, there is a party rift and hopefully a change in direction will take place. Hillary is as hated as Trump; more so I guess as she lost the election.

    But I want to take to task Lee's comments about Wall Street money influencing the left and "liberal Alligators" with a simple call to look at Trump's cabinet and the conflict of interest there with not only ties to Wall Street but to corporate conglomerates that have incredible influence on the planet, such as the ex CEO of Exxon-Mobile as Sect. of State. He chose Steven Mnuchin, a former Goldman Sachs executive and hedge fund manager, to be Treasury Secretary. Wilbur Ross, a billionaire private equity investor, is his choice for Commerce secretary. He selected Elaine Chao, a former banker, as Transportation Secretary, and billionaire Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education.
    Go figure. When Trump said he won’t let Wall Street get away with murder, he meant he’d simply give them the whole store without having to face any resistance at all!
    Yes, some of Trump’s money-connected cabinet members seem suspect of being as shady and large as the last administrations alligators, but until they really do something that will impact policy, it is all speculation. And it appears that Trump is already contemplating making appointment changes because of losing out and acknowledging getting bad advice.

    What really stands to me is the DEMS hate in losing the election coupled with their outright hate for Trump (and he gives them much reason to hate him), causes them to take an obstruction position on every agenda item Trump wishes to accomplish. As I had stated months ago in another post: Trump can promise them (electorate) anything he wants before being elected. Once in office he will only be allowed to do what the law or the opposition (even members in his own party) will allow him to do.

    Schumer and Pelosi are now gloating about the obstruction tactics and victories they are now achieving and declare they ‘have the power’. Trump is bashed every day in the media and declared incompetent to serve. Americans are getting tired of the ‘fake’ news and division in Congress and the resulting polarization within the country that does not serve their best interests. And, the right is organizing and a day of reckoning is coming – like we need more divisiveness and anarchy!

    Many are tired of the PC crap, identity politics and the resulting mischaracterization and slander, granting illegal immigrants same rights as American citizens, holding DEMS as elitists and the middle class as less educated and worthy, etc.

    There is enough blame to be placed on both major parties for the Congressional partisan divide and the state of the union. Unfortunately, too may see but their political side as the righteous one and are quick to condemn the other with scurrilous, unfounded allegations.

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    There is enough blame to be placed on both major parties for the Congressional partisan divide and the state of the union. Unfortunately, too may see but their political side as the righteous one and are quick to condemn the other with scurrilous, unfounded allegations.
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    Totally agree. Each side would have much more credibility if allegations were based on strong facts.



    It would be helpful if the mainstream media would not be obsessively at the disposal of the left. Perhaps if the media would return to it's traditional objective "watchdog" role, that journalistic change just may reduce conservative reliance on talk radio as a source for the under-reported news presenting the conservative side of the story.



    The end result just may be the restoration of a recognizable America.
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    Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartandhp

    Duh! It took them near six months to come up with the obvious that Hillary was (is) so disliked where even today a recent poll showed she would lose to Trump 46 – 43.

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    And here I thought Hillary lost because she was the most corrupt and disingenuous candidate the Democratic Party could have endorsed for the presidency – calling some of us deplorables while excluding us from her message. It wasn’t Hillary's fault for the loss. Here's a full list of all the people, organizations, government entities, and abstract concepts Hillary Clinton has blamed for her loss thus far:

    1. Former FBI Director James Comey
    2. Sexism
    3. The electoral system
    4. WikiLeaks
    5. "Minions"
    6. Right-wing media
    7. Mainstream media
    8. Democratic National Committee
    9. Democrat Party
    10. 1,000 Russian agents
    11. Vladimir Putin
    12. Donald Trump
    13. Republican-enabled voter suppression
    14. Citizens United
    15. Facebook
    16. "Millions" of Twitter bots
    17. Steve Bannon
    18. Netflix
    19. "Alt-right" media like Infowars
    20. Bernie Sanders
    21. Suburban women
    22. Rural women
    23. "Anti-American forces"
    24. Bad polling
    25. Low-information voters
    26. "Content farms in Macedonia"
    27. Fake news
    28. Colluding Trump campaign officials
    29. Stupid Americans who can't tell the difference between real and "fake news"
    30. The "broad assumption I was going to win"
    31. Goosefer
    32. DCLeaks
    33. Data from the Republican National Committee
    34. Technology
    35. The FBI

    And the left continues to mourn the loss and takes any measure of resistance not caring about country best interests. They should be so proud of their endeavor – NOT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    And here I thought Hillary lost because she was the most corrupt and disingenuous candidate the Democratic Party could have endorsed for the presidency – calling some of us deplorables while excluding us from her message. It wasn’t Hillary's fault for the loss. Here's a full list of all the people, organizations, government entities, and abstract concepts Hillary Clinton has blamed for her loss thus far:

    1. Former FBI Director James Comey
    2. Sexism
    3. The electoral system
    4. WikiLeaks
    5. "Minions"
    6. Right-wing media
    7. Mainstream media
    8. Democratic National Committee
    9. Democrat Party
    10. 1,000 Russian agents
    11. Vladimir Putin
    12. Donald Trump
    13. Republican-enabled voter suppression
    14. Citizens United
    15. Facebook
    16. "Millions" of Twitter bots
    17. Steve Bannon
    18. Netflix
    19. "Alt-right" media like Infowars
    20. Bernie Sanders
    21. Suburban women
    22. Rural women
    23. "Anti-American forces"
    24. Bad polling
    25. Low-information voters
    26. "Content farms in Macedonia"
    27. Fake news
    28. Colluding Trump campaign officials
    29. Stupid Americans who can't tell the difference between real and "fake news"
    30. The "broad assumption I was going to win"
    31. Goosefer
    32. DCLeaks
    33. Data from the Republican National Committee
    34. Technology
    35. The FBI

    And the left continues to mourn the loss and takes any measure of resistance not caring about country best interests. They should be so proud of their endeavor – NOT!
    During the Lewinsky scandal, if not truthful, Hillary and the Clinton War Room were at least more concise.

    Mrs. Clinton said on the "Today Show," that all of the Clinton problems, Bimbo Eruptions," the Draft records, cattle futures, Whitewater, Castle Grande, Travelgate, Paula Jones, Juanita Broderick, Katherine Wiley, Jennifer Flowers, Vince Foster, Charlie Trie, Mark Rich, Susan and Jim McDougal, blah, blah, all were the result of a "...vast right wing conspiracy..."

    James Carvell, her spin-artist hit man, throughout most of 1998, laid all of the blame at the feet of the Special Pervert Prosecutor Ken Starr.

    It was never her fault, or "Slick Willie's." After all, the Clintons were always, and remain, of pure soul and heart.

    She was to just busy reading 700 FBI files (I wonder if Comy's name was on such a file) to get into trouble.

    And poor Bill, he just couldn't keep his pants on, because of bad tailoring.

    But, they both couldn't keep their hands out of the pockets of the big donors and the special interests.
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    Hillary lost in 2008. Was that the fault of "Obama-Leaks?"

    BTW, many people do not know that Bill Clinton was defeated in a race for an Arkansas Congressional seat in 1974, (the year of the great Democrat post-Watergate landslide) and was unseated in his first re-election bid for Governor of Arkansas in 1980.

    That year, 1980, in spite of fanciful premature projections of a Clinton victory, (the same old, same old, sycophantic media, hello ABC), Clinton lost to an old man, Frank White, who was a Savings and Loan executive.

    For that failed re-election bid, he, and the media, blamed the great Reagan sweep, even though Dale Bumpers, on the exact same day, won his Arkansas U.S. Senate seat in a landslide.




    Perhaps the Democrat Party was sending Hillary a message in 2008.

    Maybe the people of Arkansas were trying to say something in 1974 and in 1980. They sure spoke clearly in 2016.

    No, the Clintons are not perfect, and can not walk on water. But they can, and do, lie like hell.
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    Trust me, the left is not still "mourning the loss." That's why Hillary keeps popping up for interviews; because she'd fallen off the radar. Besides, the left is too busy counting Trump's screw-ups to even think about Hillary anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Trust me, the left is not still "mourning the loss." That's why Hillary keeps popping up for interviews; because she'd fallen off the radar. Besides, the left is too busy counting Trump's screw-ups to even think about Hillary anymore
    You seriously believe the left has gotten over the loss. They are so pissed at losing to a candidate that was so opposite in mind and policy to their progressive, socialist views that even today there is a witch-hunt to destroy the individual they created and any semblance of Trump support; a man they created by putting up the worst possible candidate to oppose him.

    Hillary had no relevant message for the working class individual and DNC reps Perez and Ellison have recently stated Hillary lost not because the message wasn’t right but that it was not advanced properly. Now that she skewered them as well, if these bozos continue along the same path the Dem Party is in deep trouble.

    Hillary will remain relevant for some time for myriad reasons and will remain so until the left changes its message. Hillary and the gang started the political correctness venture, angered voters with the identity politics position and labeled the opposition as deplorables and alleged many other labels without foundation. Building a voting bloc based on social needs and programs while ignoring the taxpaying Americans contributed to the left’s defeat.

    Trump is far from being presidential and has taken positions that have pissed off many of his base. That base is looking for reasonable resolve from our Congress. They see no attempt for compromise and/or by the left, just a shadow government advocating organized resistance.

    It is the left that has become a party of hate and divisiveness, not the party of tolerance and inclusiveness it portends to be. The hatred has become so common and acceptable that the recent Kathy Griffin beheading photo of Trump is now being explained away by the likes of comedians Jim Carrey and Jamie Foxx.

    Carrey publically stated that, “he thinks it is the job of a comedian to cross the line at all times -- because that line is not real." Carrey went on to say that comedians are "the last line of defense" and the "last voice of truth" when it comes to American politics today.

    Comedians are the voice of truth? There is no line to cross. Seriously?

    This **** is good for our country? Tell me how?

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    Trump is far from being presidential and has taken positions that have pissed off many of his base. That base is looking for reasonable resolve from our Congress. They see no attempt for compromise and/or by the left, just a shadow government advocating organized resistance.

    A disturbing pattern is starting to emerge here.

    States and cities are defying laws regarding illegal "sanctuaries."

    Lower courts are undermining, and hamstringing, Presidential authority to limit immigration, refugee admission, and in fact, the President's near-exclusive right(s) to set foreign policy and to protect the nation.

    Now, cities and states repudiate Presidential authority to abrogate the Climate Accord, which never ratified as a Treaty by the Senate.

    The aforementioned, along with all of this crap of leaks, fake news, surveillance of a President-elect and his staff, and the other "gems" emerging from within the Deep State, seems to indicate that the left is reacting to the Presidency, with Donald Trump being the current steward of the office, like a body rejects an transplanted organ.

    It seems to me that the institution of the Presidency can not be reduced, ignored, or discarded by whim, no matter who is the duly-elected President. That extra-Constitutional approach suggests the work of the subversive and the revolutionary.

    The media and the left apparently do not realize that there exists a Constitutional process to remove Presidents, and a political process to change policy and political direction in the future.

    But to date, they seem to think that their resistance is to Donald Trump, PERSONALLY, when in fact their resistance is to Constitution, and the President of the United States.
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