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    Last week, Kimberley Strassel wrote in the Wall Street Journal (Hillary's Other Server Scandal) about why she thinks Bernie Sanders hasn't hit Hillary hard enough over Hillary's email scandal - because Hillary has a bigger problem than classified information. Here's the important excerpts from the article...


    Mrs Clinton would have us believe that the 31,830 emails she deleted from her server pertained to yoga and weddings. And yet look at what the press has gleaned even from the few emails and foundation details that were released...


    Foundation cash after Russian mining approvals. More than a dozen speeches by Bill to corporations and governments with business pending before Hillary's State Department. Dozens more donations to the foundation from companies that were lobbying the State Department. Checks to the foundation from a Swiss Bank after Secretary of State Clinton solved it's IRS problem. An email to Ms. Abedin while she was at State, asking for help winning a presidential appointment for a Clinton Foundation donor.


    What else? Plenty, surely. The Clinton Foundation existed in recent years to serve as an unofficial PAC for her expected presidential run. And her job at State was designed to serve the same end. Of course the business of the two were intertwined. And here's to betting the server was maintained to facilitate that intertwinement!
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    Yea, because it makes so much sense to delete those and not the alleged classified eMails.





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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    Yea, because it makes so much sense to delete those and not the alleged classified eMails.
    You missed the point...as usual.

    It's not that the classified emails aren't an issue. It's that what's possibly being uncovered with her work at the State department and it's connection to The Clinton Foundation would be more problematic for her.

    She can, and already is, playing the ignorance card on the classified emails. But if this stuff about the Clinton Foundation is true, that is going to be much more difficult to turn back.

    That said, the Clintons have a nice body count in their wake so who knows what Bill and Hillary will do...... One thing I know is if you're close to the dirty side of the Clintons...don't get into a plane and start taking antidepressants because you will have some some really bad odds going for you.

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    From the same article....expect to hear more on this as the truth comes out...

    Classified information matters and Mrs. Clinton stands accused of sloppy handling. Yet, Mrs Clinton did not set up a home brew server with the express purpose of exposing national secrets - that was incidental. Mrs. Clinton went to elaborate lengths to build a secret, private system for some other reason. She says it was for "convenience." Others speculate she did it out of the Clinton's' longtime paranoia over paper trails.

    Lost in the classified email kerfuffle is the other, lately ignored but still potent, scandal: the Clinton Foundation, and the unethical mixing of Mrs. Clinton's public work and her personal fundraising/speech-giving/favor-doing. The more evidence that comes out, the more it looks as if that server was set up to provide an off-the-grid means for those two worlds to intersect.

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    Video: Hillary Clinton's Gaffe Spree


    Via the Washington Free Beacon, please enjoy this mash-up of Hillary Clinton's hapless week of campaign rhetoric, even as she fails upward into prohibitive frontrunner status. Having a party apparatus circling the wagons from word one, "superdelegates" artificially padding your stats, and a disheveled Socialist as your only opponent has its benefits, it seems.


    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...ampaign=buffer



    And this was cute

    Trump Just Released The Best Anti-Hillary Ad You Will Ever See

    Is this what we want for a President?

    A video posted by Donald J. Trump (@realdonaldtrump) on



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    Some people believe that Hillary's "Clinton Foundation" could be her greatest liability in the long run. The real problem/issue is the system protects its self in Washington and many feed from these kinds of deals.
    Its easy to spread a little cash around and take pictures with the poor and destitute - looks great ! But when you break down how much the Foundation takes in and from where it comes ? The actual amount spent on those "Poor Destitute People" tends to be - from some reports - about 18% - so where does the MILLIONS & MILLIONS GO ? (Google it)

    Time will tell - but as of now there is no one with the balls to stand up and say "Enough" - there is no Law Enforcement Agency or agent that dares to risk their own futures to press charges.

    Even if she was charged - they will just play it off as a "Political Hatchet Job" -
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    You missed the point...as usual.

    It's not that the classified emails aren't an issue. It's that what's possibly being uncovered with her work at the State department and it's connection to The Clinton Foundation would be more problematic for her.

    She can, and already is, playing the ignorance card on the classified emails. But if this stuff about the Clinton Foundation is true, that is going to be much more difficult to turn back.

    That said, the Clintons have a nice body count in their wake so who knows what Bill and Hillary will do...... One thing I know is if you're close to the dirty side of the Clintons...don't get into a plane and start taking antidepressants because you will have some some really bad odds going for you.
    and whitewater, China gate, Vince Foster, travel gate, Jorge Cabrara, Benghazi, looter gate, file gate, cattle stock futures.......

    I could go on forever.. People that support her have the memory of goldfish...seriously it is scary and crazy that somebody with so much baggage can be a candidate for president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    and whitewater, China gate, Vince Foster, travel gate, Jorge Cabrara, Benghazi, looter gate, file gate, cattle stock futures.......

    I could go on forever.. People that support her have the memory of goldfish...seriously it is scary and crazy that somebody with so much baggage can be a candidate for president.
    That sums it up rather well. I don't understand why she is running in the first place.

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    I truly do not understand how anyone could vote for her.

    Just another nail in the sheeple's coffin
    Let me articulate this for you:
    "I'm not locked in here with them. They're locked in here with me!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    I truly do not understand how anyone could vote for her.

    Just another nail in the sheeple's coffin
    So you're part of the 1/3 who will not vote for Clinton when she gets the ticket over Sanders? You're just going to stay home during the election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    So you're part of the 1/3 who will not vote for Clinton when she gets the ticket over Sanders? You're just going to stay home during the election?
    I'll wait to see what's what. I can't fathom not voting but I'm definitely not voting for someone I completely do not believe in and that's Hillary
    Let me articulate this for you:
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    Say what you want - Bernie Sanders and Mr.Trump are the only candidates speaking directly to Americas true issues.

    Hillary has just repeated the Democrat feel better talking points - google any of her speachs from "Hillary2008" and you can see how she says the same things over and over - feel good - we are the best - we can do anything - and our best days are ahead.

    She promised 200,000 jobs in NY - we got closed factories - trade that killed American Companies and lost thousands and thousands of good paying Union and non union jobs. She campaigned and ran fund raisers all the time she was here.

    She built her "Clinton Foundation" which has been funded by foreign companies and those seeking law changes in America.
    Notice how the media/CNN avoids looking into or discussing the "Clinton Foundation" or Hillary's email content. There is direct connections between money given the foundation and her actions/favors she did for people and Companies while in office.
    Like, "Foundation cash after Russian mining approvals".

    - More than a dozen paid speeches by Bill to corporations and governments with business pending before Hillary's State Department.
    - Dozens more donations to the foundation from companies that were lobbying the State Department.
    - Checks to the foundation from a Swiss Bank after Secretary of State Clinton solved it's IRS problem.
    - An email to Ms. Abedin while she was at State, asking for help winning a presidential appointment for a Clinton Foundation donor.

    The Clinton Foundation existed in recent years to serve as an unofficial PAC for her expected presidential run. And her job at State was designed to serve the same end. Of course the business of the two were intertwined. And here's to betting the server was maintained to facilitate that intertwinement!

    Yet the media/CNN devote most of their air time bashing Mr.Trump and defending the status quo Washington Elite.


    In the Meantime, Hillary Clinton pulls off the biggest "Delegate" fraud in American History. She came into this race with "375 Committed Super Delegates" -

    "An Associated Press survey conducted in November 2015 found that 375 of them “planned” on supporting Clinton".

    Some Sanders supporters are convinced that the super delegates backing Hillary Clinton made some sort of corrupt deal. They see it as evidence that the game is rigged.

    People only become paid Party "Super Delegates because they have a longstanding affinity for, and loyalty toward the Democratic Party Agenda."

    How does a Nomination candidate get 375 "Committed Delegates almost a full year prior to the race beginning or voters going to the polls?
    Last edited by 4248; March 18th, 2016 at 01:15 PM.
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    That sums it up rather well. I don't understand why she is running in the first place.
    Because no one else has her resume. Trump? Four bankruptcies. Big deal.





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    Her tarnished resume'.......
    Let me articulate this for you:
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    If it sounds familiar - its supposed to !

    Hillary Clinton see's black Americans and Latino's as a part of the "Demographic's" she needs to tap into and collect "Voter Blocks" - not truly as "People or Americans" -

    Hillary still suffers from the same vulnerabilities as in 2008. She is a insider, a establishment player when the voters want change.

    In many ways Obama’s campaign for the presidency was unremarkable. He had voted with Hillary Clinton in the Senate 90% of the time. He stood on a centrist-Democratic platform, promising healthcare reform and moderate wealth redistribution – effectively the same programme that mainstream Democrats had stood on for a generation and what Hillary stands on today.

    Hillary remains dogged by scandal – her emails sent via a private server – her "Clinton Foundation" and foriegn money flowing through it and many voters find her untrustworthy.

    Her manipulation of the "Super Delegates System" - she had 375 "Committed Super Delegates" in November 2015 - how does any candidate get that many delegates - a year before the election ? Is that "Democratic" - she can, if need be - over rule the popular vote - nice insurance policy !

    She promises progress by increments, not transformation. She even tries to make a selling point of the fact that her platform is not exciting. She is effectively running for Obama’s third term, asking for the opportunity to continue what he started. Perhaps parts of a shared agenda learned in Congress together, but mainly because as she admits - she depends on the Black vote.

    Listen to Hillary's current speachs - you can hear this line “I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views,” Sound familiar ? ! ?

    But, broadly speaking, Obama’s racial legacy is symbolic, not substantial. Paradoxically, the element of Obama’s legacy for which he will be best remembered – being the first black president – relates to an area that has seen little substantial headway in racial equality.

    The wealth gap between black and white Americans has grown, as has the unemployment gap and black poverty; black income has stagnated. That’s not to suggest he has done nothing. Mainly because the majority of what remains of the white middle class hasn't fared any better.

    During the final year of Bill Clinton’s presidency, most guessed that his legacy would be one of scandal. But as Hillary Clinton seeks the Democratic nomination, he has had to recant key parts of that legacy – the crime bill, welfare reform, financial deregulation – those elements which have disproportionately impoverished African Americans and enriched the banks.

    And now we see Hillary asking to continue the same agenda - most likely with the same if not less positive potential.
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    Last edited by 4248; March 19th, 2016 at 07:05 PM.
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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