Reply With QuoteWhy would someone who hates WNY care about what happens in Niagara Falls? Must not be any local boards to troll, in the "Amercian Riviera".
Note that 1964 uses "here" twice, yet claims to have left WNY. Odd choice of words.
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IF I WAS LEADER OF THE SENECA NATION, here's what I would do:
Buy a few good used Airbus Jets (2 to start @ $5 million each) and start a new Airlines. Contract with the Niagara Falls Int'l Airport and provide air service between Toronto, Syracuse, Erie and it's HUB here in N. Falls. The NFTA could actually make some income here, and the state some taxes.
They can offer low fares, provide Free Shuttle service to their Casino and Hotel. People coming from T.O wouldn't need to take a $100 cab ride to the falls. They could come directly to the back door of a world class casino.
Nobody is doing this ... and the NFIA is totally prepared to become a viable ingredient in the growth of Niagara County.
A passenger doesn't neccessarily have to be a casino visitor, but it's going to be part of the lure, and airline service where it currently is defunct.
Activity + Opportunity = Success
Why would someone who hates WNY care about what happens in Niagara Falls? Must not be any local boards to troll, in the "Amercian Riviera".
Note that 1964 uses "here" twice, yet claims to have left WNY. Odd choice of words.
I own property in WNY, have friends and family here, and have been part of this community a long time.... I have ROOTS here. I also am allowed to think beyond political or geographic constraints. This isn't just YOUR board Forestbird... but atleast a guy like me who has moved out of the area, and still want to be involved shows a greater level of intellect and caring than someone on your part. I've offered more than just some measly bitching tirade like many do here ... I offered a valid point to consider and you could care less, and were more interested in attacking me. I am glad I can think well outside the box. You're stuck in one... obviously
Local boards down here are pretty much about keeping the building and population boom down. There is $7 billion in new projects where I live... can't say you have the same problems "back up North"... the GOP Government here is extremely effective, unlike back in WNY where it's a Political and Economic Cluster-&$%#. The local concerns are much different ,not too much to complain about except down here we need more workers for all that's going on, it's still hot outside and who had the best catch this week doing some off-shore fishing, and who's going to golf the most this winter!
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Activity + Opportunity = Success
Once and always a Western NEW Yorker. Thought you knew that?! And the American Riviera is Paradise, almost ... not much to complain about in Paradise!Originally Posted by ForestBird
Last edited by 1964; September 2nd, 2006 at 08:22 PM.
Activity + Opportunity = Success
Do be sure to pass along the brilliant idea to the Senecas; no doubt they've never considered it themselves and will jump right on it, Jennifer. From Alabama. Or Gilbert, AZ. Or most probably right "here", in WNY. We should ask Res if you post from a local or out-of-state ISP.
btw, "The American Riviera" is what Santa Barbara calls itself. Are you there, now?
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.. check my IP: Southern Alabama, ALSO referred to here as the American Riviera... just like Buffalo is not the only QUEEN CITY. http://www.800alabama.com/areas-to-v....cfm?cityid=82
I'm a Male, graduated from the Williamsville System, Marine Corp Veteran, lived all over the US. Have given WNY many chances but since I am singke and unemcumbered I choose to seek out opportunities wherever they are. When people ask me where I am from, it's not out of a suitcase... I AM FROM WNY!
I hate WNY Politics and the bad fiscal situation. The people have strong voices and deep convictions, however different they may be from the person beside them. Anyone who has made WNY home truly are concerned, because for us, we may want to return one day... and hopefully when it's an even better place.
Activity + Opportunity = Success
So Alabama is paradise. You have very low standards:
Decatur Daily-
James L. Evans
State poverty statistics pose moral issue
This past week the Alabama Poverty Project, a nonprofit organization committed to ending poverty in Alabama, released its long- awaited study of poverty in Alabama. The report reveals a grim and frustrating picture of people in need. And while it is clear that poverty in Alabama is not as bad as it could be, it is nonetheless far from being acceptable.
The study was prepared by the Auburn University Montgomery Center for Demographic and Cultural Research under the direction of Don Bogie. The study gleaned census data from the years 1990 and 2000, along with a plethora of other sources. The picture of poverty offered by the report makes it tragically obvious that poverty will be a significant part of Alabama's future.
Overall, the number of Alabama residents in poverty was reduced during the economic growth of the 1990s. But even with these gains, many rural counties continue to have poverty rates over 30 percent.
Just for one example, the state's poorest county, Wilcox, faces nearly 40 percent of the county's residents living below the poverty level. This includes 47 percent of the children in the county. Compare that to Shelby County with the lowest poverty rate of 6.3 percent. Statewide the poverty rate was 16.1 percent.
The picture of poverty has many different angles. For instance, the poverty rate statewide among children 17 and under is nearly 22 percent. The number of families with a female head of household is nearly 45 percent. The number of persons eligible for Medicaid is right at 16 percent.
Wayne Flynt, retired Auburn University history professor and president of the board of the Alabama Poverty Project, notes that the greatest poverty in Alabama is among our children. "In a state where evangelical Christianity is by far the dominant religion," Flynt said in a press interview, "these numbers are hard to accept."
Dr. Flynt's reference, of course, is to Jesus' admonition that his followers show particular care for "the least of these in your midst." Children and the elderly are in fact singled out in the Scriptures for special attention — the so-called "widows and orphans."
In the foreword to the The Picture of Poverty, Dr. Flynt writes, "What does it say about the moral values of a society when its poorest, least powerful, most neglected people are its children and its senior citizens?"
A copy of the study was hand delivered to every state legislator and Gov. Bob Riley. In a statement on the steps of the Statehouse, Dr. Flynt said, "Never again will the leaders of our state be able to say 'I didn't know that!' concerning poverty because they did know that, because we're going to give them a copy of this."
Of course, changing the picture of poverty in Alabama will require a concerted effort of all its citizens. It will require a substantial enactment of Jesus' admonition that we "love our neighbor as we love ourselves." And it will take some awareness of the scope of poverty, which means taking stock of just how many folks qualify as "the least of these in our midst."
To that end, the Alabama Poverty Project will make the Picture of Poverty available to anyone who would like a copy. There is a free download of the study available at the Project's website, www.alabamapover
ty.org. To obtain a hard copy of the study call toll-free (877) 782-5867 and ask for "The Picture of Poverty." Cost of the hard copy is $20.
James L. Evans is pastor of Auburn First Baptist Church and is on the board directors of the Alabama Poverty Project. He can be reached at faithmatters@mindspring.com.
What the H E L L! You do not even live here and yet you come onto this message board and ridicule people....... You comment strongly on issues you may not be fully aware of in terms of detail......... You threaten people...... check my IP: Southern Alabama, ALSO referred to here as the American Riviera... just like Buffalo is not the only QUEEN CITY. http://www.800alabama.com/areas-to-v....cfm?cityid=82
I'm a Male, graduated from the Williamsville System, Marine Corp Veteran, lived all over the US. Have given WNY many chances but since I am singke and unemcumbered I choose to seek out opportunities wherever they are. When people ask me where I am from, it's not out of a suitcase... I AM FROM WNY!
I hate WNY Politics and the bad fiscal situation. The people have strong voices and deep convictions, however different they may be from the person beside them. Anyone who has made WNY home truly are concerned, because for us, we may want to return one day... and hopefully when it's an even better place.
Man, go to a paint store and jerry-rig the safety switch of a paint mixer. Stick your head in the can holder and turn it on for ten minutes please.
Some of the things you come out with are not warranted on any message board and come to find out you do not live here. What were thinking???? Chill out!
What is here? Here is there without a "t".
“We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson
at least he's giving ideas for bettering this area
Vote for freedom, not political parties.
Politicians need to cut spending
not like buffalo is very good
http://wnyprogressreport.wnymedia.net/?p=692According to the report, the estimated median annual income for a household in Buffalo in 2005 is $27,311, compared to the national median of $46,242 and New York State median of $49,480. The only two large American cities that are worse than Buffalo are Miami ($25,211) and Cleveland ($24,105). While the city rated very low, at least Erie County fared much better. The county’s median was estimated to be $41,967 per household.
It should not be surprising based on those numbers that Buffalo then ranks as having a large portion of its population living below the poverty level. According to the report, 26.9% of all citizens live below the poverty level, compared to 13.3% for the nation, 13.8% for New York and 13.2% for Erie County. This percentage has slightly increased from 2000 when 26.6% of city residents were living below the poverty level, compared to 12.4% for the nation and 12.2% for the county - meaning both the nation’s and Erie County’s percentage of individuals residing below the poverty level has increased by about a percentage point in five years.
If you think about it the number is frightening: almost thirty percent of all Buffalonians live below the poverty level
Vote for freedom, not political parties.
Politicians need to cut spending
Haven't you ever heard of the Alabama solution to poverty?
It's called a one-way ticket to New York State to collect the Welfare.
Think you can trust the government?
Ask an Indian!
Hey now don't get WNYresident going again. For some reason this is one of his really sensitive areas.Haven't you ever heard of the Alabama solution to poverty?
It's called a one-way ticket to New York State to collect the Welfare.
I never threatened anyone ... MORON!
I see less poverty where I am versus Buffalo, in fact I know it's around but I live in a pretty nice town, there are trailers but them and the land their on are worth a million bucks. I live in a new house, new subdivision, with taxes 1/10 of Williamsville. After all even Williamsville and Amherst have people under the poverty level too.... Sure there are poor people all over, that sucks!
Whoopee... let's make fun of the poor!?
And most Alabamans wouldn't be caught dead moving to NY or jump on welfare, why when Yankees are so rude and the weather sucks. It's the other way around... Snowbirds and NYers come here in the winter (and summer), where it's peaceful, and the people are friendly and tee times are easy to get and where it's sunny...
Also a great place to invest... Lots of stuff going on, motivated high sprited people who actually do not hate their government.
not cloudy, raining with *****ty attitudes.... like BFLO!
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Activity + Opportunity = Success
You certianly are one of the rudest, foulmouthed, silly, and non-factual person posting.
Why don't you explain to us why the Montgomery (Alabama) Advertiser does not have a clue regarding it's editorial today and you do.
Montgomeryadvertiser.com Sept. 9, 2005
Editorial
Poverty figures genuine concern
For all the good economic news Alabama has had in recent years -- and there's been a fair amount of it -- the hard fact remains that ours is still one of the poorest states and, in some respects, appears to be losing ground. That ought to be a sobering thought for all of us, and especially for those in positions of public trust whose actions can have a great deal to say about whether the trends, good and bad, continue.
Census Bureau statistics released last week paint a picture of Alabama that may look askew to those who have benefited from the economic growth the state has experienced in the past several years. It is easy to miss the hardship of others when one's own economic prospects are on the rise.
The numbers, of course, are just that. But behind those cold columns of numbers are flesh-and-blood people, hundreds of thousands of Alabamians, about one in six of us, who live below the poverty level.
The numbers deserve our attention, to be sure, but let no one forget that these numbers represent people, their lives, their deprivation and, at least in the shorter term, their futures.
Alabama's poverty rate last year was 16.7 percent, according to the Census Bureau data. That's 750,000 Alabamians. Three-quarters of a million of us.
Broken down by demographic categories, the figures become even more troubling. The poverty rate among those under 18 years of age is 24.7 percent. That's one in four. For families led by single women, the poverty rate is a staggering 44.5 percent, close to half.
As if that weren't disturbing enough, the Census Bureau also reports that the median household income in Alabama fell from 2004 to 2005, dropping from $38,695 to $37,502. In the same period, the national median household income rose from $45,893 to $46,071.
Alabama's drop in median household income reflects the growing gap between haves and have-nots, between those whom economic growth has pushed forward and those it has left behind.
It is true that Alabama's poverty rate is significantly lower than it once was. As late as 1981, the overall poverty rate was 24.1 percent. In the years since, it has been as low as 13.3 percent in 2000, but has been rising -- 15.9 percent in 2001, 14.5 percent in 2002, 15 percent in 2003, 16.9 percent in 2004 and 16.7 percent in 2005.
It is also true that the federally established poverty figures -- $19,000 for a family of four is the most commonly cited -- do not take into account the sometimes substantial differences in the cost of living in the various states. Certainly $19,000 in Alabama is not the same as $19,000 in New York or California.
Even so, no family of four is living comfortably on $19,000 a year, even in Alabama. The poverty figures are still telling and the issue of poverty cannot be subdued with spin.
So what is to be done? There is no magic bullet and government is by no means the only component in the solution, but there are steps that can be taken to, at the very least, not worsen the lot of those living in poverty and perhaps to help in the process of escaping poverty.
One is tax reform -- serious tax reform, not just tinkering around the edges. Alabama took a modest step in that direction earlier this year when it finally raised the income tax liability threshold and stopped penalizing the very poorest of the poor.
For decades, Alabama began imposing income tax liability on families at just $4,600 of income. It is unconscionable. Beginning next year, that figures goes to $12,500 -- still too low, but a great improvement.
Alabama continues to rely heavily on sales taxes, the most regressive form of taxation. This tax structure pinches the poor the hardest because the sales tax applies to the basic necessities of life, particularly food. Given that the poor spend a sharply greater share of their resources on food and other such necessities, high sales taxes are also a sharply greater burden on those least able to pay.
An equitable utilization of the state's entire tax base would ease the tax burden on the poor. Of course, that means addressing the most sacred of sacred cows in this state -- property taxes. As long as property is dramatically underutilized as an element in the tax base, inequity is assured and a fair taxation system is impossible.
Alabama is a great state in which to have money, but a particularly tough state in which to be poor. We shouldn't be content to have it remain that way.
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