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    Ask your self a few simple questions

    - has your spendable income brought you prosperity ?

    Do you feel safer today than you did 5 years ago ? Is terrorism less of a threat ?

    Has your retirement personal savings increased !(tax funded Players not included)

    Have your family members found it any easier to find a good paying job where you live ?(tax funded Players not included)

    Have you and your family members received 3-4% yearly pay increases ? (tax funded Players not included)

    In closing - studies are bought and paid for by those who need them to prove they are right.

    Many studies prove them wrong - believe your wallet !
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    And what if we answer yes to most of those? But actually most of them have little to do with the president. You could have asked the same questions back in 2008 and received much worse results. So they are kind of pointless questions in regard to this election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    And what if we answer yes to most of those? But actually most of them have little to do with the president. You could have asked the same questions back in 2008 and received much worse results. So they are kind of pointless questions in regard to this election.
    This Rasmussen stat has everything to do with the president - a mere 26% of likely voters think the country is heading in the right direction! Spin that!
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...or_wrong_track

    Only twenty-six percent (26%) of Likely U.S. Voters now think the country is heading in the right direction, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey for the short holiday week ending December 23, 2015.

    This finding is unchanged from a week ago and is up just two points from 24% two weeks ago which tied the low for the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buffy View Post
    This Rasmussen stat has everything to do with the president - a mere 26% of likely voters think the country is heading in the right direction! Spin that!
    OK here ya go: People say the EVERY election. I'm serious. When was the last time people thought we were heading in the right direction? They've been saying that in polls my entire life. You don't seriously think people were better off in 2008 than they are today, do you? In 2008 the economy was about to head off a cliff into the greatest recession since the great depression. That's not spin. That's just the way it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    OK here ya go: People say the EVERY election. I'm serious. When was the last time people thought we were heading in the right direction? They've been saying that in polls my entire life. You don't seriously think people were better off in 2008 than they are today, do you? In 2008 the economy was about to head off a cliff into the greatest recession since the great depression. That's not spin. That's just the way it is.
    That's not entirely correct...
    Satisfaction With the United States - Gallop Historical Data
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1669/Gene...mpaign=sharing

    1984, 1992, 2000 and 2004 were election years and had periods in which higher percentages of favor ability were recorded. The highest favorability were when Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush, and Bill Clinton were President.

    btw, your assertion that the economy plays a role, is correct and exactly the reason Donald Trump is polling as well as he is.
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    Obama has violate our Constitution for 8 long years and you butt heads think it is OK. He should have been impeached for high crimes and misdemeanor and he is doing it again with these EO's on gun control, nothing about gun control but to control you more. Your next president Hillary will write nothing but all EO's which will kill our country, and eliminate our 2 branches government of and what do you get a DICTATOR. So, you want to be like FRANCE where the police can enter your home at any time with any warrants all at will they its here. There are only two men who can bring us back from the brink of destruction Trump and/or Cruz. I suggest you listen to Toms show now. America need a none politician this time around Hillary will eliminate our Constitution and if you think I'm lying you are not listening to her words. We are not SOCIALIST! Why would AMERICA want a Socialist president or progressive one.
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    If I were you, I'd look into getting a refund on that Internet law degree of yours. That or lay off the tin foil for a while. Let your head breath.





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    Quote Originally Posted by buffy View Post
    That's not entirely correct...
    Satisfaction With the United States - Gallop Historical Data
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1669/Gene...mpaign=sharing

    1984, 1992, 2000 and 2004 were election years and had periods in which higher percentages of favor ability were recorded. The highest favorability were when Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush, and Bill Clinton were President.
    As long as we're picking random years, here's a couple according to the data you linked:

    Satisfaction for year:

    1992:
    Low-17
    High-26

    2008:
    Low - 7
    High-21

    2015:
    Low- 21
    High-32

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    As long as we're picking random years, here's a couple according to the data you linked:

    Satisfaction for year:

    1992:
    Low-17
    High-26

    2008:
    Low - 7
    High-21

    2015:
    Low- 21
    High-32
    Except that we're not picking "random years" we're looking at what people say at every election per your #49 post. I cited a few election year exceptions to your blanket claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffy View Post
    Except that we're not picking "random years" we're looking at what people say at every election per your #49 post. I cited a few election year exceptions to your blanket claim.
    OK, but you selected which election years and listed 2004 but excluded 2008. I added 2015 as a comparison only because there's no data yet for the current election year 2016. I was wrong though in saying people were unhappy with our direction all the time. People were generally happy during Reagan and during Clinton (both long economic boom years). The other good marks were short-lived spikes during war - Bush Sr and Bush Jr invasions. The general peak around 2000 faced a long decline until 2009 when it trended up slightly.

    So what does all that mean? I'll tell you one thing it means is that people do not think they were better off in 2008, which was my original point to 4248.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    So what does all that mean? I'll tell you one thing it means is that people do not think they were better off in 2008, which was my original point to 4248.
    People were dissatisfied in 2008 and willing to take a chance on someone new. We're seeing a similar scenario now, except that people are not only dissatisfied with the direction of the country - they are dissatisfied with politicians in general - all politicians. That is why Trump is doing so well...and the political establishment at large and the media that owns them all, hate it. That is one of the reasons why Trump has become a populist figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    OK, but you selected which election years and listed 2004 but excluded 2008. I added 2015 as a comparison only because there's no data yet for the current election year 2016. I was wrong though in saying people were unhappy with our direction all the time. People were generally happy during Reagan and during Clinton (both long economic boom years). The other good marks were short-lived spikes during war - Bush Sr and Bush Jr invasions. The general peak around 2000 faced a long decline until 2009 when it trended up slightly.

    So what does all that mean? I'll tell you one thing it means is that people do not think they were better off in 2008, which was my original point to 4248.
    Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the most jobs were created under Reagan. To me it's all a matter of jobs. Good jobs. We still haven't made up the job losses from 08

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the most jobs were created under Reagan.
    That would be false.



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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    Or lightning will strike, people will wake up and realize both are asinine and it'll be President Sanders
    People pretend we don't have a choice other than what the major parties tell us.
    The problem is party loyalists. They're too stupid to understand they're blinded by party politics. The hypocrisy from both sides is staggering.

    I understand the ones that play the game for jobs, but the others are so ****ing pathetically stupid that there is no fixing them.

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    Did somebody delete the Hillary supporters list of accomplishments, or in typical fashion, were they never listed?

    Party hacks are a pathetic bunch.

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