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    Trump nails it.

    the donald nailed it keep these people out of the country!
    Most Republicans Have Negative Views Of Muslims.

    Donald Trump on Monday called for a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States” in response to the recent attack in San Bernardino, California, which investigators believe was inspired by the terrorist group known as Islamic State. When Trump says “total and complete,” he means it: Trump’s campaign manager told the Associated Press that the ban would include Muslim tourists, and a spokesman told The Hill that it would even cover American citizens living abroad.

    Some of Trump’s rivals for the Republican presidential nomination came out against his proposal (with varying degrees of intensity). Jeb Bush called Trump “unhinged” on Twitter, while Ted Cruz, campaigning in South Carolina, said he didn’t share Trump’s position but called for a three-year moratorium on accepting refugees from countries where Islamic State or Al Qaeda control territory.

    It’s too soon to know how Trump’s proposal will affect the campaign; plenty of his past comments were ridiculed by pundits but failed to hurt his standing in the polls. But there are a few things that we do know about Americans’ views of Muslims, and Muslims’ view of their place in America.
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    God must love stupid people; He made so many

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    Trump is never going to be President





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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    Trump is never going to be President
    Even if he doesnt...he brings a lot of fresh air regarding issues that our present and wannabe elected officials wont say.for fear of NOT being politically correct...wanting not to destroy their protected high paying salaries and careers!...and this is what will be the further destruction of the American way of life...as we once knew it. Past interfering in other countries / govt.'s by our past bumbling presidents and politicians has cost us thousands of American lives. i.e. VietNam, Afghanistan
    When ANY nation or religion threatens or declares war on the US...we must strike back firmly..it will deter any one else who might think of attacking us. Opening our borders..or keeping them open until we ...this country has a solid paln on how to screen potential new citizens...and eliminate the threats they bring..is only asking for for more carnage in our country!




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    Here's what I don't understand, critics are saying we "can't have a religious test for immigration" but, ISIS is fighting a RELIGIOUS WAR! Our enemy is religious!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffy View Post
    Here's what I don't understand, critics are saying we "can't have a religious test for immigration" but, ISIS is fighting a RELIGIOUS WAR! Our enemy is religious!!!
    Its because we are supposed to be better than that. Apparently some of us are not though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    Trump is never going to be President
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    Oh yea? We shall see.... !!
    The above is opinion & commentary, I am exercising my 1st Amendment rights as a US citizen. Posts are NOT made with any malicious intent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheekman View Post
    When Trump says “total and complete,” he means it: Trump’s campaign manager told the Associated Press that the ban would include Muslim tourists, and a spokesman told The Hill that it would even cover American citizens living abroad.
    No, he didn't mean it. As soon as someone tugged on his sleeve and told him the Constitution would not allow him to prevent US Citizens from returning to the US solely because of their religious believes, he backed down on that one.

    We should be excluding everyone we can legally exclude if their idiotology is incompatible with our founding principles. For example, any non-citizen of the US who doesn't believe in the separation of Church and State - whether muslim, christian, or other insanity - should not be allowed into our country. Unfortunately, we can't export such crazy people who are already citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    No, he didn't mean it. As soon as someone tugged on his sleeve and told him the Constitution would not allow him to prevent US Citizens from returning to the US solely because of their religious believes, he backed down on that one.

    We should be excluding everyone we can legally exclude if their idiotology is incompatible with our founding principles. For example, any non-citizen of the US who doesn't believe in the separation of Church and State - whether muslim, christian, or other insanity - should not be allowed into our country. Unfortunately, we can't export such crazy people who are already citizens.
    But this can apply to everyone who is not a citizen until a better process to screen people is figured out. Wouldn't you agree? Or do you not value the safety of current USA citizens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    But this can apply to everyone who is not a citizen until a better process to screen people is figured out. Wouldn't you agree? Or do you not value the safety of current USA citizens?
    Sure thing - only need to ask one question - "Do you believe that people should be able to use the government or government assets to promote any religion?" - answer yes and you don't get in. Rather simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    Sure thing - only need to ask one question - "Do you believe that people should be able to use the government or government assets to promote any religion?" - answer yes and you don't get in. Rather simple.
    I don't follow. This is a matter of national security not to promote a religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I don't follow. This is a matter of national security not to promote a religion.
    absolutely - those who want to use the government or government assets to promote their religious beliefs are trying to turn us into a theocracy. For those who are already here it is treason, for those who are trying to come here they are enemies of our country and Constitution.

    When a person doesn't support the very first provision of the Bill of Rights then they have no business being here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I don't follow. This is a matter of national security not to promote a religion.
    So, 2 muslims commit an attack, using assault weapons legally purchased in the US. You think the solution is to ban incoming muslims, and do nothing about the legally purchased weaponry used in the attack, because of national security?

    Am I following correctly?
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    Let me articulate this for you:
    "I'm not locked in here with them. They're locked in here with me!!"
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    If an entire political party can over look all the BS hillary has other people can over look some of the items Trump did.

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