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“We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson
The line should be drawn at - "ELECTED OR APPOINTED TAX FUNDED Officials/EMPLOYEE"
See they say those entrusted with "Public Trust" should be held to a higher standard. But when it comes to protecting a "Public Servants tax funded pensions and benefits" - then they say - why not treat us like private sector workers ?
Then run government like a business - you don't produce - we fire you !
You steal from us - we fire you - you use our tax funded equipment for personal reasons - we fire you.
Then they'll say - you cant fire me till the next election and only if I cant con enough people to reelect me ! BS
Caught abusing your position/trust - you should be gone - no pension - no cash buy outs. Done !
There's no accountability - that's the problem, there's no way we can react when they get caught !
"Silver's defense attorney, Steven Molo, argued that the federal government was trying to make Albany's long tradition of backroom dealing illegal. "It makes some people uncomfortable, but that is the system New York state has chosen, and it is not a crime," Molo said on Nov. 3 during opening statements. "The prosecutors are trying to make it a crime, but it's not."
There in lays the problem - they are held to a different standard.
Conspiracy is legal
- graft is legal
- manipulation of Union Contracts for votes is legal.
They should be illegal and is for normal working/taxpaying citizens !
Last edited by 4248; December 3rd, 2015 at 09:21 PM.
#Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !
Public/private? We are talking about consequences for public servants that have betrayed public's trust. I am not sure you can construct a law or paradigm to account for outliers above. I assume such cases would be litigated to as Silver's was to determine culpability and damages. Governor Cuomo and the senate had on the books a change in state law to cancel pensions of those lawmakers convicted of a felony, unfortunately the assembly did nothing with it. This shows that there is some government support to stop this.
Obviously, in life it is possible for one to erase a lifetime of hardwork and earnings with felonious choices. Just ask any trial lawyer who specializes in civil litigation.
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This is not entirely true. The Assembly passed it in June (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?def...&Memo=Y&Text=Y ). That version of the bill has not yet been passed by the state Senate, which supports a different version. The Senate version would be limited to elected officials while the Assembly version is applicable to all public employees. So until both houses come to an agreement on the scope it will go no where. Even once they do agree on its scope it has to be passed by two consecutive Legislature and then voted on by the voters of New York since it would amend the N.Y. Constitution.
“We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson
Typical Political stall tactics - find one point you can argue - debate it then shelf it! This way the amendment goes no where and they don't expose the true objections. The true objection is most of them would forfeit pensions if the law was passed .
They way they twisted it - they can claim they shelved it to protect "Employees" - not themselves.
#Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !
Quite frankly I do not believe Elected officials should be eligible to be in the state pension system at all.
“We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson
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