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    Libs Exult;WalMart Posts Loss

    Wal-Mart Posts 1st Profit Fall in Decade
    Tuesday August 15, 2:51 pm ET
    By Marcus Kabel, AP Business Writer
    Wal-Mart Posts 1st Profit Fall in 10 Years on Germany Exit, Higher Gas

    Wal-Mart Stores Inc. posted its first profit decline in a decade Tuesday as the world's largest retailer paid a hefty price for closing its loss-making German stores while high energy prices hit its sales and costs at home.
    Chief Executive Lee Scott said sales were disappointing at Wal-Mart's U.S. stores, its largest division. Customers were making fewer shopping trips to save gas, while Wal-Mart's own bills for fuel and utilities were up, he said.

    "In the United States, customers tell us they are most concerned about gas prices," Scott said in a prerecorded message. "This has been consistent every month this quarter."

    Results were still in line with expectations and the company reiterated its guidance for the year.

    But analysts questioned whether a third-quarter forecast on the low end of expectations meant the company could meet its target for the year. Wal-Mart's stock fell 73 cents, or 1.6 percent to $44.37 in late morning trading on the New York Stock Exchange.

    The company forecast third-quarter earnings between 59 cents and 63 cents per share, compared with the average analyst estimate of 63 cents. It reiterated a full-year forecast of $2.88 to $2.95 per share, while analysts were predicting $2.92 per share.

    "The quality of the quarter itself is kind of moderate. It does not look nearly as good as what we've seen from some of their peers as far as earnings and sales growth," said David Heupel, a portfolio manager for Minneapolis-based Thrivent Investment Management, with $2.5 billion in assets. The large-cap growth fund within Thrivent that Heupel manages sold its Wal-Mart shares this year.

    Heupel said the tepid third-quarter forecast meant Wal-Mart will have to do very well in the fourth quarter -- the holiday season that is traditionally the strongest period for retailers -- to make the full-year target.

    "What they're up against at this point is not only a hard place in the economy for their consumers but also the fact that they just can't grow at the same rates as in the past," said Patricia Edwards, a portfolio manager and retail analyst at Wentworth, Hauser & Violich in Seattle, which manages $8.2 billion in assets and holds 51,000 Wal-Mart shares.

    For the quarter ended July 31, Wal-Mart posted net income of $2.08 billion, or 50 cents per share, down from $2.81 billion, or 67 cents per share, a year ago. That includes an $863 million charge for the sale of its German stores to Metro AG.

    The last time Wal-Mart saw quarterly profit fall was in 1996.

    Wal-Mart pulled out of Germany in July and South Korea two months earlier after racking up losses there. It said it would focus resources on expanding in more profitable markets like China and Latin America.

    Excluding the German and South Korean operations, the sales of which are both pending, Wal-Mart's income from continuing operations grew 5 percent to $2.98 billion, or 72 cents per share, from $2.85 billion, or 68 cents per share, a year ago.

    Retail analyst Don Gher from Coldstream Capital Management in Bellevue, Wash., which manages about $1 billion in assets including Wal-Mart shares, said Wal-Mart was in a remodeling squeeze right now that may pay off in the future with improved sales.

    Wal-Mart is remodeling about 1,800 U.S. stores to make them more attractive. Gher said that program is increasing expenses at the same time as it disrupts sales in those stores.

    Wal-Mart said it expects to finish 1,200 of those projects by the end of the third quarter before taking a break over the holiday shopping season and finishing the rest next year.

    In the meantime, sales are slowing. Sales at stores open at least a year -- a key retail measure -- were up 1.5 percent at Wal-Mart U.S. stores in the second quarter, compared to 3.8 percent in the first quarter and 3.6 percent a year ago.

    Rival Target last week said its sales at stores open at least a year rose 4.6 percent for the quarter.

    Wal-Mart's domestic profit margins are also under pressure from factors including higher transportation costs and more sales of lower-margin products, Chief Financial Officer Tom Schoewe said.

    Food sales grew faster than general merchandise, he said. That pressured margins because groceries are less profitable than items like apparel, home furnishings or electronics.
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    I'm a lib and I like Wal-Mart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therising
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    Quote Originally Posted by biker
    You will never create a more accurate post.
    Thank You!

    Now, back to the topic at hand.......

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    Change the title, Walmart did not post a loss, it was a decline in profits.
    LOSS

    1. Expenses exceeding sales or revenues; an item is sold for less than its cost or adjusted basis.
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    You're right.

    I was just trying to give the libs a happy day.

    BTW-What a juggernaught; they take an $863 million hit from selling the German operations and still post a profit!
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    And Wal Mart= Everything thats wrong with corporate America.
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    By the way, what happened to biker? I miss the old coot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citymouse
    And Wal Mart= Everything thats wrong with corporate America.
    Everybody who thinks WalMart is what is wrong with corporate America is actually what is wrong with America.

    Walmart provides goods and services efficiently and less expensive than most competitors. The result is cheaper goods for Americans, more discretionary spending money available to the average family. Poor people are able to get more for their money. The overall standard of living in this country is raised by Corporations like Walmart.

    People have voted overwhelming with their wallets to support Walmart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by citymouse
    And Wal Mart= Everything thats wrong with corporate America.
    Such a ludicrous remark, I assumed you were being sarcastic.

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    Anybody see that weak billboard on Broadway by the dump?

    What does it say, "When you shop Wal-Mart, you shop China".

    Without a doubt, this wins the "most polarized opinion on a billboard" award for the year.

    Like nobody else in America is exploiting China. Idiotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by citymouse
    And Wal Mart= Everything thats wrong with corporate America.

    Don't get your socialist flash cards mixed up, now.

    Ten years ago it was Microsoft.

    Fifteen years ago it was McDonald's.

    But now that they've been beaten into mediocrity, it's on to Walmart.

    As one of the party faithful, can you clue us into which company will be emblem for evil corporate America in five years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelawareDistrict
    Everybody who thinks WalMart is what is wrong with corporate America is actually what is wrong with America.

    Walmart provides goods and services efficiently and less expensive than most competitors. The result is cheaper goods for Americans, more discretionary spending money available to the average family. Poor people are able to get more for their money. The overall standard of living in this country is raised by Corporations like Walmart.

    People have voted overwhelming with their wallets to support Walmart.
    Jon Lehman worked for Wal-Mart for 17 years, managing six stores in four different states before he left the company in 2001 to work for a union trying to organize Wal-Mart employees. (INTERESTING READ)

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    Here's something that bitter opponents Lieberman and Lamont can unite on: they will be attending anti-WalMart rallies.

    As will Joe "I can plagiarize anything I damn well please" Biden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by citylouse
    And Wal Mart= Everything thats wrong with corporate America.
    Who doesn't like Wal-Mart? Grocery Store unions who are at risk of being completely thrown out of the grocery sector from Wal-Mart.

    Who doesn't like Southwest Airlines? Unionized employees of United, American, etc who's companies are experiencing severe price pressures from low-cost airlines like Southwest.

    Can someone explain the difference to me?
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    Here's the issue.

    Walmart is fine but not focused on the major country it serves. The USA.

    Walmart can be as large as it is with a little sacrafice of profits to build the USA manufacturing sector. Sending everything over the china is wrong. This global economy stuff is wrong unless we were competeing against other planets which we are not.

    They are sacraficing the USA in the name of profits in my book. You can't stop free trade but we have the wrong type of people running walmart. They should be focused on profits and the "good of the USA". They are not. Their is no reason why everything shouldn't be made here in the states. Even if it means that unions are not involved. Unions are nothing more than another business forcing higher prices for the servicres rendered which is unnatural in a free capitalistic market.

    Your worth should be determined by your ability not the "club" you happen to belong to.

    We need companies that focus on our boundaries of the USA when it comes to business and profits. Every other country is a competitor and that's how other countries look at it.

    I don't give two ****s about other countries economies only ours.

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