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    Smile Urinal

    And those suicides don't no press coverage ..Sorry to take you away from your Kiddie porn.
    We Work Jobs we hate, to buy crap we don't need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden
    And those suicides don't no press coverage ..Sorry to take you away from your Kiddie porn.
    Your wife's no kid....and naked pictures of her isn't porn, more like gross anatomy.
    The difference between taxes and robbery is the mode of coercion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden
    19 years on the job, yes only a poor pitifull 3 killed in the line of duty in that time (yeah lumberjacks have more)...but here is the kicker, 7-9 friends and co-wrkrs who ate their own gun. And a life expectancy of 65 yoa. Now Im not whinning, just some facts.
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    Ok

    You got me, I did try to be diplomatic, and not resort to any name calling, but I fell into the trap some of you have set....You will see no more name inappropriate language from I.
    We Work Jobs we hate, to buy crap we don't need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biker
    BTW-I think you guys should pull that parking ticket thing again this winter. And a lot more sobriety and seat-belt check points. All in the interest of greater public safety, of course.

    You goons got hundreds more to think like me; with a few more nudges, it'll be thousands.

    Of honest, middle class taxpayers, who might've been your allies.
    I got caught in that ticket thing. What gets me is people whining about the cops *doing their jobs*.

    Personally, I'm glad they caught more drunks, more people 'bending' the law and enforced more seatbelts, etc.

    I'm an honest middle class taxpayer--- but then, I went into my ticket thinking cops were the good guys. I'm guessing those who think like you went into it already thinking they are the bad guys.

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    Welcome to Speakup, Jess.

    Although it sounds like we won't agree on much, I hope you post often.

    A diversity of ideas helps to flesh out issues.
    Truth springs from argument among friends.

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    Thanks for the welcome. I didn't see a place to introduce myself.

    But, we may agree on every issue other than this one. Your posts have not set my teeth on edge

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    Quote Originally Posted by jess66
    Thanks for the welcome. I didn't see a place to introduce myself.

    But, we may agree on every issue other than this one. Your posts have not set my teeth on edge
    True. I've even won over former antagonists: as you become more familiar with other posters here on SU, you'll never believe that two of my most ardent fans (therising and Stevenco) were once hostile.

    Sweet reason always prevails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBAguy
    watch for some Control members to be replaced by massa Spitzer. We might see some movement then. Then again we didn't endorse Sir Eliot so I'm not counting on anything from him. Give it till Spring time, you might see some movenment then.
    Well it is spring time, and Spitzer has not touched the CB.

    What know PBAguy??

    Micheal

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    Lightbulb The only movement you will see from Spitzer is

    Quote Originally Posted by Micheal Joseph
    Well it is spring time, and Spitzer has not touched the CB.

    What know PBAguy??

    Micheal
    The only movement you will see from Spitzer is:

    Spitzers moves against the Indians and anyone else he can squeeze a Tax dollar from!

    He will continue to raise Campaign Funds and the only "Movement" we'll see is his rhetoric !
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoCtUrNaL
    Allot of people make more money then me, that has nothing to do with my issues with public employees.


    Cops are already over compensated and yet they spend most of their waking day whining about how underpaid and underappreciated they are.

    Jesus H. Christ....ya want some respect from me? Stop whining about what you're paid and the difficulties you perceive with your job and just do it. Man up, you choose the f-ing job, STFU and do it. And try doing it with some integrity. Give the rationalizations and double standards a rest. You ain't exempt from dick, live within the laws you expect others to. The law isn't your tool to implement when it serves your personal agenda or mood.

    Yeah...I'll hold my breath waiting for those simple standards to be met.

    Yes, there are cops that abuse their power and yes almost ALL harassment incidents are "covered up."
    I HATE private citizens who are friends and relatives of police officers that get "favors" done by some officers.

    I have a Brother that is a lawyer for worker's comp (in California) and he handles mainly police cases.

    I've read about the huge range of injuires cops get.

    Yes, law enforcement personel CHOOSE to risk their health and lives, but some cities have larger police departments, faster response time (for officers down) and many cities have a much lower violent rate of crime than Buffalo

    Police officers are prone to a higher rate of depression and suicide.

    CHIPS or motorcycle cops get neck injuries from wearing a VERY heavy helmet and have a high risk of getting hit by reckless motorists.

    Truth be told, whenever an officer walks up to a car they've pulled over, they do not know what threat may be waiting for them.

    YES, cops DO choose their jobs and YES there's an overabundance of adrenaline junkies and cowboys but the truth is,

    Police officers are our last line of defense. Period.

    As much as many citizens protest over real and falsified police harassment, racism, brutality and other crimes-Without the police, we would have total anarchy.

    I know that cops CHOOSE the risks their profession entails, but Buffalo is a much more dangerous city to patrol in than the Town Of Amherst, where being a cop seems to be FAR safer probably because Amherst has an ARMY of officers.

    I've had some problems with police harassment in and around Buffalo but I won't lie, not ALL cops are bad-

    TRY AND IMAGINE A WORLD WITHOUT THE POLICE TO KEEP CIVIL ORDER.
    I don't think that most people could handle total anarchy and chaos.

    I am NOT "kissing the a-- " of the police by any means, but we NEED the police, like them or not and in THIS corrupt city filled with all kinds of nepotism and "under the counter favors" for politicians in comfortable offices with private cars and all kinds of other perks-

    To the police reading this and on this blog: PLEASE, for God's sake stop pretending that there isn't a disproportionate number of officers (compared to other occupations) that abuse their power in varying degrees. Then again, only a fool would admit that there's rampant corruption among their peers-Sorry, had to put that in here.

    The "parking ticket blitz' did not enamour the public to the police-It ticked a lot of people off.
    You guys (and women) should be able to be MUCH MORE CREATIVE to nudge the control board to FINALLY give the OK to your raises.

    But out of simple fairness and for the hazards the police face,
    THEY DESERVE THEIR DAMNED RAISE!!!

    I'll go out on an limb and say that the money spent to lure "Bass Pro" to Buffalo should have gone to the raises promised to the police.

    Politicians are public servants just like the police, except they seem to have NO problems with all the extra perks their positions bring-

    I've given this matter careful thought, doing my BEST to be objective and imagine what the cops are going through and in all honesty, I would be FURIOUS if I was an officer denied a raise that I was PROMISED, a raise that would go towards the mentally and physically exausting jobs MOST police do in Buffalo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbfounded
    Yes, there are cops that abuse their power and yes almost ALL harassment incidents are "covered up."
    I HATE private citizens who are friends and relatives of police officers that get "favors" done by some officers.

    I have a Brother that is a lawyer for worker's comp (in California) and he handles mainly police cases.

    I've read about the huge range of injuires cops get.

    Yes, law enforcement personel CHOOSE to risk their health and lives, but some cities have larger police departments, faster response time (for officers down) and many cities have a much lower violent rate of crime than Buffalo

    Police officers are prone to a higher rate of depression and suicide.

    CHIPS or motorcycle cops get neck injuries from wearing a VERY heavy helmet and have a high risk of getting hit by reckless motorists.

    Truth be told, whenever an officer walks up to a car they've pulled over, they do not know what threat may be waiting for them.

    YES, cops DO choose their jobs and YES there's an overabundance of adrenaline junkies and cowboys but the truth is,

    Police officers are our last line of defense. Period.

    As much as many citizens protest over real and falsified police harassment, racism, brutality and other crimes-Without the police, we would have total anarchy.

    I know that cops CHOOSE the risks their profession entails, but Buffalo is a much more dangerous city to patrol in than the Town Of Amherst, where being a cop seems to be FAR safer probably because Amherst has an ARMY of officers.

    I've had some problems with police harassment in and around Buffalo but I won't lie, not ALL cops are bad-

    TRY AND IMAGINE A WORLD WITHOUT THE POLICE TO KEEP CIVIL ORDER.
    I don't think that most people could handle total anarchy and chaos.

    I am NOT "kissing the a-- " of the police by any means, but we NEED the police, like them or not and in THIS corrupt city filled with all kinds of nepotism and "under the counter favors" for politicians in comfortable offices with private cars and all kinds of other perks-

    To the police reading this and on this blog: PLEASE, for God's sake stop pretending that there isn't a disproportionate number of officers (compared to other occupations) that abuse their power in varying degrees. Then again, only a fool would admit that there's rampant corruption among their peers-Sorry, had to put that in here.

    The "parking ticket blitz' did not enamour the public to the police-It ticked a lot of people off.
    You guys (and women) should be able to be MUCH MORE CREATIVE to nudge the control board to FINALLY give the OK to your raises.

    But out of simple fairness and for the hazards the police face,
    THEY DESERVE THEIR DAMNED RAISE!!!

    I'll go out on an limb and say that the money spent to lure "Bass Pro" to Buffalo should have gone to the raises promised to the police.

    Politicians are public servants just like the police, except they seem to have NO problems with all the extra perks their positions bring-

    I've given this matter careful thought, doing my BEST to be objective and imagine what the cops are going through and in all honesty, I would be FURIOUS if I was an officer denied a raise that I was PROMISED, a raise that would go towards the mentally and physically exausting jobs MOST police do in Buffalo.
    Let me just respond to this point: "'ll go out on an limb and say that the money spent to lure "Bass Pro" to Buffalo should have gone to the raises promised to the police."

    Don't climb too far out on that limb! The pot(s) of money that are being directed to Bass Pro and Waterfront Development ARE NOT the pots of money that pay raises or any other salaries- they are development dollars and come from a variety of funding streams that promote development in our urban areas.

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    maybe

    if society prioritized, tax dollars would only go to essential services. It isn't going to happen, but it is nice to dream.

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    Angry If your going to compare police . . .

    Why do people focus only on Buffalo PD! There are over 5000 state troopers making over $100,000 + benefits! Why arent you complaining about them?!
    They don't do half of what a Buffalo cop does, everyday!

    The damn state has a budget hole of over 4 BILLION! You are state taxpayers, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPD86
    Why do people focus only on Buffalo PD! There are over 5000 state troopers making over $100,000 + benefits! Why arent you complaining about them?!
    They don't do half of what a Buffalo cop does, everyday!

    The damn state has a budget hole of over 4 BILLION! You are state taxpayers, too!
    Just a guess here, but I'd think most people would start closest to home and work their way up to bigger things? In other words, tackle things for which you have the most direct input.

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