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    Downsizing question

    If "Downsizing"/consolidation is so great, why are its two leading proponents liberal Democrats: Kevin Gaughan and Bruce Fisher.

    What am I missing here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ostrowski View Post
    If "Downsizing"/consolidation is so great, why are its two leading proponents liberal Democrats: Kevin Gaughan and Bruce Fisher.

    What am I missing here?
    Don't despise the message because of the messenger. That's what has destroyed this region.

    Analyze and form your opinions based on the message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ostrowski View Post
    If "Downsizing"/consolidation is so great, why are its two leading proponents liberal Democrats: Kevin Gaughan and Bruce Fisher.
    I don't know who Bruce Fisher is and I don't know about Kevin Gaughan's political persuasion, But I think Kevin is in this for himself. He can look back and say, look at me, I'm the great Kevin Gaughan, I did all this for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enough View Post
    Analyze and form your opinions based on the message.
    You must have been reading zanna's posts....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEmerald View Post
    You must have been reading zanna's posts....
    Zanna who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEmerald View Post
    But I think Kevin is in this for himself. He can look back and say, look at me, I'm the great Kevin Gaughan, I did all this for you!
    And you don't think Suckowski, Thompson, Volker and the rest say the same thing? That's EXACTLY what they say on their campaign commercials.

    I'd rather hear Gaughan saying it than any of those morons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEmerald View Post
    I don't know who Bruce Fisher is and I don't know about Kevin Gaughan's political persuasion, But I think Kevin is in this for himself. He can look back and say, look at me, I'm the great Kevin Gaughan, I did all this for you!
    I would rather have it done for me then to me.

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    The "message" is achieving centralization of power by weakening local government, the only government that remotely works. That's a liberal goal. It would be odd if liberals wer advocating illiberal goals.

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    Bruce Fisher was Giambra's policy guru. He's a liberal who favored consolidation since liberals favor the concentration of power into the hands of elites who can tell the great unwshed what to do. Remember that discretionary spending rose under Giambra. Fisher believes in government spending to stimulate the economy.

    So, yes, I think it's important to pay very close attention to the messengers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ostrowski View Post
    The "message" is achieving centralization of power by weakening local government, the only government that remotely works.
    The only government that remotely works........

    You say as Res and his Cheektowaga neighbors pay $5,000+ a year in property taxes......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ostrowski View Post
    So, yes, I think it's important to pay very close attention to the messengers.
    You can pay attention to the messenger.

    Just don't disregard the message simply based on the messenger...

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    I am against the message. I have said so here and there. I have moved on to the messengers because of smaller government types who are on board with this liberal agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ostrowski View Post
    I am against the message. I have said so here and there. I have moved on to the messengers because of smaller government types who are on board with this liberal agenda.
    Aren't all of the legislature types you've endorsed on board with EC Legislature downsizing? I know Hardwick is, for a fact.
    This website makes money off of a depraved and idiotic conspiracy theory.

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    Way back before there was very much internet activity around here, I was posting material against consolidation and regionalization. That movement failed and now phase two is to attack the least expensive aspect of the least expensive form of government, the municipality. So, my views on this are quite old and quite firm.

    "Downsizing" is a faux reform. Faux reforms crowd out real reform such as abolishing the NFTA which gets $95,000,000 each year from government subsidies for providing crappy service.

    Before we attack municipal government, we need to, in this order, drastically shrink the federal government, then the state government, then the authorities, school districts and counties. It goes without saying that all special districts must go.

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    downsizing is like abstinence - sounds great, never really works out very well.

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