Governor Rick Perry indicted by grand jury

[nogods]

Not our governor, but their governor..oh...and the state has paid 80,000 already to his lawyer to defend him before the indictment. The state, not his campaign funds.

Gov. Rick Perry of Texas Is Indicted on Charge of Abuse of Power

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Nobody knows just how much this will cost NY Tax Payers and or how much of Gov Cuomo's $35Million campaign funds will be used - one thing is clear - tax payers and donors will pay a heavy price for his dealings with the Moreland Commission.


"Several aides to Cuomo have hired their own lawyers and the anti-corruption commission itself is paying up to $300,000 in taxpayer money on outside counsel.

The state ethics commission, which received a subpoena from Bharara's office, is spending $10,000 in taxpayer dollars on an outside lawyer to handle the matter. The firm is run by the children of one of Abramowitz's partners.

And the Senate and Assembly previously hired lawyers to deal with the commission’s investigation at a combined cost of as much as $505,000 to taxpayers.

“Moreland has become the corporate welfare for corruption defense lawyers,” said one insider"


http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1889191

[steven]

indicting Governors when they use there legal veto power on something u want..........


Brilliant waste of time

[HipKat]

indicting Governors when they use there legal veto power on something u want..........


Brilliant waste of time

+1


10 Chars

[Mr. Lackawanna]

This a political assimilation attempt on Governor Perry. Rosemary Lehmberg, the district attorney in Travis County has a history of going after Republican politicians. She was caught and tried in court of being drunk while driving. She should be fired from her job.

[nogods]

There is precedent in Texas for the Perry indictment.

Special Prosecutor Speaks After Grand Jury Indicts Gov. Rick Perry

The indictment in State of Texas v. James Richard Perry says that the 390th District Court grand jury found that, on June 14, Perry intended to harm Lehmberg and the public integrity unit. He misused government property, contrary to his oath of office as a public servant. The property in question had a value in excess of $200,000 and was approved by the Texas Legislature to fund the public integrity unit, alleges the indictment.

The indictment said that on June 10 to June 14, Perry used "means of coercion" by threatening to veto Legislature-approved funding for the public integrity unit unless Lehmberg resigned as D.A. Perry intentionally tried to influence her in the performance of her duty "to continue to carry out her responsibilities as the elected District Attorney for the County of Travis," alleged the indictment.

On a historical note, McCrum [the special prosecutor in the case] said that the last Texas governor who was indicted was then-Gov. James Edward "Pa" Ferguson in the early 1900s. Ferguson had wanted a University of Texas System regent to resign, but the regent refused. Ferguson vetoed funding for the UT System.

"It's interesting facts and interesting analogous facts. Ultimately, he was convicted, by the way," noted McCrum.

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The National Election cycle leading to the White House is driving these attacks - is this the American Government we want ?

Ultimately, what we see here is when you have one Party Control - mainly infused with lawyers - peole willing to change and bend our constitution - this is what you get.

As nogods has constantly reminded us - its a "Winner take all Game" to these people.

If, in their minds they can justify an action/political assassination - through legal means - its fair.

Doesn't have to be moral - doesn't have to be equitable - the ends justify the means.

Is this the American Government we want ?

[WNYresident]

This a political assimilation attempt on Governor Perry. Rosemary Lehmberg, the district attorney in Travis County has a history of going after Republican politicians. She was caught and tried in court of being drunk while driving. She should be fired from her job.

So it all stems from this. What a waste of time for the Governor of Texas.

[nogods]

The issue isn't Rosemary Lehmberg. The issue is whether Perry used his power in a manner that was criminal. One Texas governor has already been indicted and convicted for a similar crime.

"look over there! People are looting a convenience store!" is no excuse for you robbing a bank.

Perry was investigated by an independent prosecutor and indicted by a state grand jury. That doesn't mean he is guilty, but it does mean there is probable cause to justify charging him with the commission of a crime.

The state of Texas is paying for his defense so he'll have a more than adequate defense.

[WNYresident]

Why is it taking so long to indict Cuomo then compared to Perry?

[nogods]

Why is it taking so long to indict Cuomo then compared to Perry?

Cuomo's investigation is not taking longer

A special prosecutor was appointed with regard to Perry in August of 2013.

The US attorney's investigation of Cuomo is less than 6 months old.

However, it could end up taking longer, because Cuomo's attorneys might have extend negotiations with the US Attorney before indictment. Such indictments can go on for months and even years.

I don't know if the Texas special prosecutor had any pre-indictment negotiations with Perry, or if that was an option, or if Perry just ignored it.

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With NY and Albany being so Democrat - who do you think will want to speak against Gov.Cuomo?

What elected or appointed man or women is going to want to help prosecute Gov.Cuomo ?

As nogods stated, "Cuomo's attorneys might have extend negotiations with the US Attorney before indictment.

Such indictments can go on for months and even years."

Anyone with any Political hopes or inspirations is in hiding - everyone within arms length and tax funded is begging to be left out of this process. You can't blame them - who wants to fall on the sword just to watch Gov. Cuomo walk away laughing ?

"Negotiations"

Nobody knows just how much this will cost NY Tax Payers and or how much of Gov Cuomo's $35Million campaign funds will be used - one thing is clear - tax payers and donors will pay a heavy price for his dealings with the Moreland Commission.


"Several aides to Cuomo have hired their own lawyers and the anti-corruption commission itself is paying up to $300,000 in taxpayer money on outside counsel.

The state ethics commission, which received a subpoena from Bharara's office, is spending $10,000 in taxpayer dollars on an outside lawyer to handle the matter. The firm is run by the children of one of Abramowitz's partners.

And the Senate and Assembly previously hired lawyers to deal with the commission’s investigation at a combined cost of as much as $505,000 to taxpayers.

“Moreland has become the corporate welfare for corruption defense lawyers,” said one insider"

[steven]

One Texas governor has already been indicted and convicted for a similar crime..

NO

Ferguson was indicted on nine charges in July 1917. The Senate convicted him on 10 of those charges, including misapplication of public funds and receiving $156,000 from an unnamed source

Apple's meet Oranges

No one is accusing Perry of stealing money just using his veto power. I know absolutely nothing about the guy but this stinks of partisan hijinks.

[nogods]

NO


Apple's meet Oranges

No one is accusing Perry of stealing money just using his veto power. I know absolutely nothing about the guy but this stinks of partisan hijinks.

Way off pardner. You need some sharper spurs if you are going to try to keep up with the facts.

Why don't write Mike McCrum and tell him your great legal mind has determined the Ferguson case and the Perry case are "apples and oranges."

BTW - McCrum was chosen to be the prosecutor in the Perry investigation by a Republican senior judge in San Antonio, Robert C. "Bert" Richardson.

Ferguson’s indictment led to impeachment by state legislators in September 1917. That’s highly unlikely for Perry, a lame duck with an overwhelmingly conservative Legislature who is facing felony charges for his threat — one he made good on — to veto funding for of the unit charged with investigating public offices in Texas, including that of the governor.

But there are striking similarities. Ferguson, a Bell County native who worked as a rancher and a banker before becoming governor in 1914, got in trouble for trying to remove public officials who had opposed him. Two of the articles of impeachment that removed Ferguson from office accused him of having “invaded the constitutional powers of the [University of Texas] board of regents” and “sought to remove regents contrary to law,” wrote Cortez Ewing in the journal Political Science Quarterly in 1933. Ferguson’s veto of the university’s entire legislative appropriation also prompted outrage, though he was not impeached on that point.

And the regents were goading a legislative investigation into embezzlement of state funds and improper campaign finance by Ferguson, while today, some believe Perry wanted the Public Integrity Unit gone because it was investigating possible corruption of state programs — including the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas. Perry has adamantly denied that, saying that he was entirely motivated by Lehmberg’s bad behavior.

[steven]

BTW - McCrum was chosen to be the prosecutor in the Perry investigation by a Republican senior judge in San Antonio, Robert C. "Bert" Richardson.

That would matter to you, I really don't care if its a Republican, a democrat, or a Hera Krishna. I am not the partisan you are.

Way off pardner. You need some sharper spurs if you are going to try to keep up with the facts.

Why don't write Mike McCrum and tell him your great legal mind has determined the Ferguson case and the Perry case are "apples and oranges."

Appearently you dont get. Since I already pointed out that the guy in 1917 was stealing money I wont bother again. I will point out the obvious from your link, he isnt vetoing to get rid of political rivals either, The DA had a very Embarrassing DWI that was very publicly aired where she acted like a straight up hood rat.

Duhhhhhhhhhh, of course she should be gone.