nice work Gabe, the airport run from downtown is a natural. But it could include the Central Terminal and Galleria Mall, as the right of ways are already there for nearly a clean run from downtown, according to the late great modib, and it appears he's right.Originally Posted by Gabe
The east side would be a huge benificiary too.
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I don't have exact data, but I highly doubt it does. No mass transit systems in this country do. I believe the only system that actually turn a profit are in Japan. Trains are so successful there that many of the lines are owned and operating by private operators.
The Terminal would be the big red dot in that photo.
Yes, the tracks do run right past the central terminal, but it's a quite a complicated sitation there. On BR, Mike Miller, a voulnteer at the CT restoration group basically says there are huge logistical problems:
So yeah, this will certainly be possible well after the line is built, at a time when the CT finally finds a worthwile use and the money can be found to do the massive platform re-configuration required to allow a stop to be built there.The idea of having a stop at the Central Terminal will come after the complex is restored and once again an economic asset (ie. offices, retail stores, etc.). That is a long term, piece meal project that will take years to complete. The Metro Rail station there would probably be a small satellite one, at best.
There is also a logistical problem that must be solved: getting passengers from the tracks to the terminal (the passenger bridge was severed from the concourse in the '80's to allow for double decker trains) past the active Amtrak and CSX lines. The CSX line runs so close to the back of the building that it would be hard to raise the bridge high enough to clear the tracks. Plus, the existing passenger loading platforms would most likely have to be torn down in favor of a new, smaller passenger loading platform design. All problems not insurmountable, just not impossible, but not likely in the near future.
All I'm saying is, if you're gonna do it, DO SOMETHING!!! If it's not perfect, we can fix it later.
Enough of the "study it to death" nonsense that has become WNY.
Mike's not thinking outside the box enough on this one. There's no reason that the new platforms would need to be in the place of the old platforms. Curtiss Street runs right underneath the Terminal. Light rail tracks could follow along Curtiss Street and let you off right underneath the concourse.
I'm going to ask again:::: why hasn't there been any actual studies done to determine the ridership of this wonderful rail system???
This is the same kind of bull manure that created the current subway to nowhere; people had to have a subway because Toronto had one. Proponents made all kind of wonderful claims about what it would do for the city. Well, the subway has really done a lot for Main Street, hasn't it? In fact, it's done so much that now the same people who had to have the subway now want to put cars back on Main Street in downtown ... to the tune of $50 million.
I've got a better idea. Use that $50 million to demolish the vacant houses and other buildings in the city that are fire hazards and havens for dopers, dog-fighters, and other ne'er-do-wells.
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Thats not bull manure, Linda, thats from our union-politicians and our public authority.
So now the subway to nowhere is going to the airport, if sensible people get their way. Thats good.
You ignored my question. Why hasn't there been a scientific study of potential ridership done?
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what, is that an order from farmland?
dont know
There's no reason to do a full-on study if there are no intentions of implementing such a route. Although I'd be surprised if the NFTA hasn't done some level of a study on the issue.
now that I think of it, modib had a link to an extensive study on the subject. Its out there somewhere.
some sort of study was done, with fed money
http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/s...03/daily7.html
I'll look for more, but I found that after 1 simple google searchFederal funding to back Metro Rail study
Business First of Buffalo - February 3, 2003
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A $100,000 allocation from the federal government will be used to study long-term plans for the NFTA's Metro Rail.
Congressman Jack Quinn (R-Hamburg) announced the funding and was joined by officials from the NFTA and the Buffalo Niagara Medical Campus.
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