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    Charlie Sheen is just an actor! A wacko!

    Then so are all these experts, professionals, ex-government officials, ex-insiders, ex-bush administration members, ex-defence officials, professors,.etc.

    bush can break any laws he wants, including the laws of ...."physics" !
    It is physically "impossible", unless the government, ....says it is.

    Who do these experts think they are? ...Actors?

    Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
    Official version of events a conspiracy theory, says drills were cover for attacks

    The former head of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents Ford and Carter has gone public to say that the official version of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory and his main suspect for the architect of the attack is Vice President Dick Cheney.

    Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President’s Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers Gold Medal (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. He chaired 8 major international conferences, and is one of the country’s foremost experts on National Security.

    Asked if he could name a prime suspect who was the likely architect behind the attacks, Bowman stated, "If I had to narrow it down to one person....I think my prime suspect would be Dick Cheney."

    Bowman agreed that the US was in danger of slipping into a dictatorship and stated, "I think there's been nothing closer to fascism than what we've seen lately from this government."

    Bowman slammed the Patriot Act as having, "Done more to destroy the rights of Americans than all of our enemies combined."

    Asked if the perpetrators of 9/11 were preparing to stage another false-flag attack to reinvigorate their agenda Bowman agreed that, "I can see that and I hope they can't pull it off, I hope they are prevented from pulling it off but I know darn good and well they'd like to have another one."
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    Physics Professor Says Science Points To Conclusive Evidence of WTC Controlled Demolition

    Brigham Young University physics professor Steven E. Jones is the latest credible individual to come forward and assert that the official story of 9/11 differs wildly from the observable facts.

    Jones made numerous compelling points on the collapse of both the twin towers and Building 7. According to Jones, his scientific peers have been very sympathetic to his research and have agreed with his conclusions.

    Building 7 was not hit by a plane and yet it collapsed in 6.6 seconds, which is .6 seconds quicker than it would take an object dropped from the roof of the building to hit the floor. This violates fundamental laws of physics, unless the building was brought down by explosives.
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    Former CIA Analyst: Government May Be Manufacturing Fake Terrorism

    Ray McGovern, former CIA Analyst during the Regan and Bush 41 regimes, joined Alex Jones on his daily radio show Monday 17th October as part of a round table discussion of issues surrounding the Iraq war and the "war on terror".

    Mr McGovern stated that the war,....
    "has nothing to do with democracy or freedom or defending "our way of life", it is to do with enriching the pockets of those who support this administration."

    McGovern then moved on to talk about terrorism and the fact that if there was another major attack in the US, it would mean a martial law state (According to General Tommy Franks) and a breakdown in our freedoms.

    Mr McGovern then went on to reveal his opinions on the possible upcoming indictments within the Bush Administration, siding with the view that the truth will out and the Administration will come toppling down because of the way it has continually forged a bedrock of lies to justify the War In Iraq.
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    Former Reagan Treasury Secretary Questions Twin Towers Collapse

    Roberts cites a press release from '9/11 Scholars For Truth,' a group that comprises such credible individuals as former German Defense Minister Andreas von Buelow and former chief economist for the US Department of Labor under George W. Bush, Morgan Reynolds. The press release lists the evidence suggesting 9/11 was carried out with the complicity of the highest ranks of government and intelligence agencies.

    We know the government lied about Iraqi WMD, but we believe the government told the truth about 9/11."
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    Scholars for 9/11 Truth call for verification and publication by an international consortium.

    A group of distinguished experts and scholars, including Robert M. Bowman, James H. Fetzer, Wayne Madsen, John McMurtry, Morgan Reynolds, and Andreas von Buelow, have concluded that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11.
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    Former German Defense Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11

    We have NORAD standing down for an hour and twenty five minutes but when we had the golfer Payne Stewart went off course for fifteen minutes, he was surrounded in eighteen minutes by five F-16s so why did NORAD stand down?

    Well, this is a big question because it happened in 2001 more than 60 times.
    That, fighters went up to clear what has been done to airplanes that showed some irregularities. At 9 11, four planes for two hours were able to drive around, fly around even one hour in the direction going toward the west and then turn around and then comeback. The military air force was not able to interdict them. It’s unimaginable. And the whole story is totally unclear what happened between the Federal Aviation Agency Administration and NORAD.
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    Former Bush Admin Member Says Government Complicit In 9/11

    Former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds has made waves in the past few days after writing a detailed article stating tha the official explanation for the collapse of the twin towers and Building 7 was bogus.

    The four potential explanations behind 9/11 were

    1) It was entirely the work of Al-Qaeda and Arab hijackers.
    2) The government had prior knowledge of the attack but their incompetence allowed the attack to happen.
    3) The government knew the attack was coming and consciously allowed it to happen.
    4) The government ran the entire operation.

    Reynolds stated, "I'd have to say that the evidence points to the last."
    He later stated that the official explanation of the attack was "full of holes, everywhere you look it just doesn't hang together."
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    Former MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job

    Former MI5 agent David Shayler, who previously blew the whistle on the British government paying Al Qaeda $200,000 to carry out political assassinations, has gone on the record with his conviction that 9/11 was an inside job meant to bring about a permanent state of emergency in America and pave the way for the invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and ultimately Iran and Syria.

    David Shayler joins a spate of recent credible whistleblowers who share the same sentiments about the real story behind 9/11.

    Former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds publicly questioned the unexplained collapse of WTC Building 7 earlier this month. In addition, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Reagan, Paul Craig Roberts, shared his concerns last week when he said the Bush Administration were making the same mistakes as the Nazis when they invaded Russia in the dead of Winter. Roberts seriously doubts the official explanation behind 9/11.
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    This war on terrorism is bogus
    The 9/11 attacks gave the US an ideal pretext to use force to secure its global domination
    Michael Meacher

    Fifteen of the 9/11 hijackers obtained their visas in Saudi Arabia. Michael Springman, the former head of the American visa bureau in Jeddah, has stated that since 1987 the CIA had been illicitly issuing visas to unqualified applicants from the Middle East and bringing them to the US for training in terrorism for the Afghan war in collaboration with Bin Laden (BBC, November 6 2001). It seems this operation continued after the Afghan war for other purposes. It is also reported that five of the hijackers received training at secure US military installations in the 1990s (Newsweek, September 15 2001). Instructive leads prior to 9/11 were not followed up.

    No serious attempt has ever been made to catch Bin Laden. In late September and early October 2001, leaders of Pakistan's two Islamist parties negotiated Bin Laden's extradition to Pakistan to stand trial for 9/11. However, a US official said, significantly, that "casting our objectives too narrowly" risked "a premature collapse of the international effort if by some lucky chance Mr Bin Laden was captured".
    The US chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, General Myers, went so far as to say that "the goal has never been to get Bin Laden" (AP, April 5 2002).

    The whistleblowing FBI agent Robert Wright told ABC News (December 19 2002) that FBI headquarters wanted no arrests. And in November 2001 the US airforce complained it had had al-Qaida and Taliban leaders in its sights as many as 10 times over the previous six weeks, but had been unable to attack because they did not receive permission quickly enough (Time Magazine, May 13 2002).
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    WTC Construction Certifiers Say Towers Should Have Easily Withstood Jet Fuel Temperatures

    There continues to be a number of "experts" making public claims about how the WTC buildings fell. One such person, Dr. Hyman Brown from the WTC construction crew, claims that the buildings collapsed due to fires at 2000F melting the steel (1). He states "What caused the building to collapse is the airplane fuel…burning at 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. The steel in that five-floor area melts." Additionally, the newspaper that quotes him says "Just-released preliminary findings from a National Institute of Standards and Technology study of the World Trade Center collapse support Brown’s theory."

    We know that the steel components were certified to ASTM E119. The time temperature curves for this standard require the samples to be exposed to temperatures around 2000F for several hours. And as we all agree, the steel applied met those specifications.
    Additionally, I think we can all agree that even un-fireproofed steel will not melt until reaching red-hot temperatures of nearly 3000F (2). Why Dr. Brown would imply that 2000F would melt the high-grade steel used in those buildings makes no sense at all.

    The results of your recently published metallurgical tests seem to clear things up , and support your team's August 2003 update as detailed by the Associated Press, in which you were ready to
    "rule out weak steel as a contributing factor in the collapse." The evaluation of paint deformation and spheroidization seem very straightforward, and you noted that the samples available were adequate for the investigation.
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    As a once famous philosopher said (or was it a comedian?):
    "Here's your sign" !!

    Giuliani was an "insider", pulled out of bldg 7, which had small contained fires, before it suddenly "collapsed" faster than object tossed from the top. Now he's predicting another attack?
    "...the building was completely evacuated immediately after the north tower was struck"
    Why was bldg 7 immediately evacuated before the others? Was Sylvia Brown there?
    "Giuliani urged local, state and federal officials to make "relentless preparation" for another attack"
    "It would be irrational not to be afraid of another attack,"
    "But the fear should lead you to do what a police officer does or a firefighter or a soldier or what Mayor (Richard M.) Daley did: prepare."
    It is important, he said, to "understand and recognize economic forces and not treat people as criminals who are not."
    Oh...that's right. The terrorists who commited 9\11 were "welcomed" here. They lived right across the street from NSA Headquarters. They dined on our yachts by those in the circle. They were protected from investigations by the higher ups!

    We did not treat them as criminals...did we?
    That worked very well, didn't it..... Mr. Giuliani?

    Again, I here that saying...
    "Here's your sign" !!

    Giuliani Predicts Another Terror Attack
    Tuesday, April 4, 2006

    Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani predicted Tuesday that 9/11 would not go down in history as the only large-scale terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

    "It's better to assume we will be attacked again and go from there," Giuliani said during a speech at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

    Giuliani, who was New York's mayor when when terrorists struck on Sept. 11, 2001, was the keynote speaker at the 2nd Annual Mayor Richard J. Daley Urban Forum, reported the Chicago Tribune.

    "Sept. 11 removed any last vestige of thinking that we're isolated," Giuliani said. "We have the same strengths and vulnerabilities as just about every place else."

    According to the Tribune, Giuliani urged local, state and federal officials to make "relentless preparation" for another attack, particularly a strike that can't be anticipated.

    "It would be irrational not to be afraid of another attack," he said. "But the fear should lead you to do what a police officer does or a firefighter or a soldier or what Mayor (Richard M.) Daley did: prepare."

    Giuliani also said the nation needs immigration reform without becoming isolationist. He suggested more security at the borders to identify as many people as possible while remaining open to immigrants.

    It is important, he said, to "understand and recognize economic forces and not treat people as criminals who are not."

    During his speech, Giuliani repeatedly lauded President Bush, and laughed off suggestions of his own presidential ambitions.

    One audience member said it was "an honor to ask a question of a future president of the United States." Giuliani smiled and turned briefly away.
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    Did you know that that Building No. 7 was evacuated before any other building. The building was evacuated immediately after the FIRST plane struck the north tower. A friend of mine who worked in the building told me that the building was completely evacuated immediately after the north tower was struck and that she was blocks away and did not even learn of the second plane hitting the building until some time later. She was home in New Jersey when the buildings collapsed. This should be reflected upon when considering that the people in both the north and south tower received no instructions to evacuate until well after the second plane struck the south tower.

    It was reported in the newspapers on the first or second day after the bombing that a Michael Hess of the Corporation Counsel of the City of New York, and another employee of the City Housing Authority, entered Building No. 7 IMMEDIATELY AFTER the first plane struck the north tower when the building was almost completely evacuated. They went up to the 23rd Floor of Bldg 7 where the City's "compound" was located. The reported that AFTER the second plane struck the they heard a large explosion on the floors above and below them. They ran down to the lobby of Bldg 7 and said the lobby was completely destroyed. They said it "looked like hell" in the lobby of Bulding 7. This was reported in The New York Post and I believe in the Newsday in the first few days after the bombing (I still have the papers).

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    Charlie Sheen is just an actor, Martin Sheen is a left wing liberal wacko! Don't forget about Babs Streisand! According to her, she is a political expert in all areas even though she has a high school diploma!
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    That's right, when you can not refute the facts, attack; that way the other person has to defend, lest you be forced to deal with facts becuase their truthful answers you can not handle. ( I know it sounds very much like what a Star Wars character would say.)
    "All government, -indeed, every human benefit and enjoyment, every virtue and every prudent act,- is founded on compromise..." -Edmund Burke
    A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.
    Mark Twain (1835 - 1910), (attributed)
    Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 George W. Bush

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