Boehner Says He Plans to Sue Obama

[steven]

You're the one who blamed Reagan for being the first to overstep the powers of the Presidency because of something having to do with the "Guard", and no one knows what you're even talking about.

My bad, I figured anyone with any kind of grasp on recent history new that Reagan was the first president to usurp the National Guard from Governors. You must have missed all those court cases. Next time I will attach a history lesson to what I post for you.

[My point was that you perceive this to be a problem NOW - not then

If I didn't perceive it as a problem then, then I wouldn't have said,

each president thereafter has been pushing the envelope further and further.

Give it up dude, your just being ridiculous you made partisan statements own up to them. No more what is is bull****.

And another thing, Steven.

You cut & pasted a bunch of stuff you tripped over while Googling "Barack N0bummer is a bad man+Kenya+soshulizm".

and that proves what a partisan Hack you are. In my post to Jeff the book I was talking about doesn't even touch the Obama years. For goodness sake let go of your man love for Obama.

[steven]

You cut & pasted a bunch of stuff you tripped over while Googling "Barack N0bummer is a bad man+Kenya+soshulizm".

and thanks again for proving my point.

Did anyone say anything about Kenya or socialism? No, its just you running that same tired old script over and over again. "If You question Obama you must think he is born in Kenya!"

Seriously?

That's really weak. Like I said, Puff of smoke

[buffalopundit]

My bad, I figured anyone with any kind of grasp on recent history new that Reagan was the first president to usurp the National Guard from Governors. You must have missed all those court cases. Next time I will attach a history lesson to what I post for you.

No, you're so ignorant that you thought something done in the 80s represented the first presidential overreach of executive powers. As if even NIXON never existed.

If I didn't perceive it as a problem then, then I wouldn't have said,

But if you knew what you were talking about, you'd have just said, "practically every President in American history".

Give it up dude, your just being ridiculous you made partisan statements own up to them. No more what is is bull****.

Now, if I was as ignorant as you, I'd be yelling "SEE YOU BLAMING CLINTON", by bringing up "what is is".

and that proves what a partisan Hack you are. In my post to Jeff the book I was talking about doesn't even touch the Obama years. For goodness sake let go of your man love for Obama.

Right. I was referencing this other thread. I don't know who Jeff is or what the hell book you're talking about. I'm referencing something you wrote a few short days ago.

I'll tell you what - I'll give up my "man love" for Obama just as soon as you admit that your animus for him isn't just about policy.

[buffalopundit]

and thanks again for proving my point.

Did anyone say anything about Kenya or socialism? No, its just you running that same tired old script over and over again. "If You question Obama you must think he is born in Kenya!"

Seriously?

No, not seriously. It was a joke. Do keep up.

[steven]

But if you knew what you were talking about, you'd have just said, "practically every President in American history".

well then I am sorry I will word things the way you like them next time, LOL, Your a little full of yourself aren't you?

I'll tell you what - I'll give up my "man love" for Obama just as soon as you admit that your animus for him isn't just about policy.

Do tell Mr. Buffalopundit. What IS my animus for Obama about? Inquiring minds want to know.


I am going to try to get this thread back on track. If any of you watched the Cspan video it should have at least made you think regardless of what side you take in the discussion.

Question "Can the Cheif exective ignore laws that are permissive and Mandatory?"

Answear: "It is well established that the executive Branch has prosecutorial discretion"

Question "What are the limits to that prosecutorial discretion?"

Answear: IDK Blah Blah Mumble

Question: " if the president can fail to enforce immigration laws can the president decide not to enforce election laws?

My question is this, if he can dispence with marijuana laws, immagration laws, or mandatory minumums can he also dispense with election laws?

Can the president suspend election laws?

Answear: No

Question: Why not? If he can suspend mandatory minumums and immigration laws then why not election laws?

Answear: Because the president is bound to obey and apply the law

Question: Well he isnt applying the ACA, Mandatory Minumums, immagration laws and he isnt applying Marijuana laws, whats the differnce with election laws

Answear: I dont no a lot about that

Remember people, it wont always be "your guy" in that office. Think about it.

[buffalopundit]

well then I am sorry I will word things the way you like them next time, LOL, Your a little full of yourself aren't you?

Not at all. Just accurate.

Do tell Mr. Buffalopundit. What IS my animus for Obama about? Inquiring minds want to know.

I have no clue whatsoever. That's your albatross, not mine.

As for your blistering expose on executive discretion, tell me all about it next time a cop decides to give you a warning rather than a ticket.

[steven]

can someone please post about the subject and not about Love of Obama or hate of Bush or what is is or what I really am thinking.

This is an interesting topic to me. I would really like to know from someone else that watched the Cspan video or read the book I referenced what they think.

[buffalopundit]

can someone please post about the subject and not about Love of Obama or hate of Bush or what is is or what I really am thinking.

This is an interesting topic to me. I would really like to know from someone else that watched the Cspan video or read the book I referenced what they think.

"As for your blistering expose on executive discretion, tell me all about it next time a cop decides to give you a warning rather than a ticket."

[steven]

MY MY

Supreme Court Limits Presidential Recess Appointment Powers


Handing a victory to those who fear the executive branch has overreached in recent years, the Supreme Court has reined in the President’s power to appoint officers of the government when Congress is in recess. Weighing competing clauses of the constitution, the justices ruled Thursday that the President cannot circumvent the framers’ requirement that he seek the Senate’s advice and consent on executive branch appointments if Senators are only formally in recess for three days.

The ruling undermines hundreds of decisions made by the National Labor Relations Board in 2012 and for half of 2013, when the board comprised unconfirmed recess appointees. Those decisions will be revisited by the board that has since been confirmed by the Senate.

http://time.com/2927879/supreme-cour...intments-nlrb/

Lions and Tigers and Bears Oh MY

[HipKat]

good lord you partisin hacks are all the same, you dont even read or listen to what the other guys is saying you just keep spitting out your cheerleading.





There really is nothing substantive to you at all, you just root root root for your team and take shots at the other team. Well, put the Pom Poms down, I didn't vote for Bush either Copernicus.


It needs to stop, we are so far away from what the founding fathers envisioned its almost like we are a different country.

OMFG. I'm agreeing with Steven on two things in the same year..... wth?

[HipKat]

Yes. Under the Founding Fathers, we had slavery, Indians were "savages", and they passed the Alien & Sedition Act.

And now we're all slaves, unless you're the 1%, most of the people under the age of 25, and many over the age of 25 are savages and the inmates are running the asylum

[steven]

"As for your blistering expose on executive discretion, tell me all about it next time a cop decides to give you a warning rather than a ticket."

Looks like the supreme court missed out on your traffic ticket analogy Mr Lawyer.

Maybe you should call them up and tell them whats what. I am sure they will be impressed and issue a new ruling, after all, "you blogged for 10 years"

[steven]

aaaaaaaaaaand * poof *

he's gone again. LOL

[Lee Chowaniec]

Today President Obama advised us not to listen to the cable news shows, Washington pundits, and any media coverage that focuses on his administration's screw ups. This scandal business is nothing more than phony allegations says Obama. And to think that Pinocchio will get away with this one with the biased media and supporting libtards.

It was also sad to have heard the results of a poll today that claimed that only 40% of uber-liberals are proud of their country. How can that be when their man King Obama is running the country?

[HipKat]

1. "For example, he has unilaterally revised, delayed or reinterpreted ObamaCare no fewer than 38 times."

So what? the House spent $$$ and lots of wasted time voting almost 40 times to repeal the Patient and Affordable Care Act.

2. If Mr. Boehner wants to sue the President, I support him doing that. But not as Speaker of the House, not as Representative Boehner, but citizen Mr. Boehner, in a civil court. Let Boehner pay for the legal costs, not the taxpayers. Because I thought the GOP hates spending taxpayer money on frivolous things.

3. If the Republicans gain a majority in the Senate in the November elections, but not enough to pass bills without Democratic votes, there will never be a removal of the President from office if the House impeaches him. And then the GOP can get a taste of what they've been giving the Democrats the last 2 years in the Senate by voting for the benefit of their party, and not the benefit of the country. (Yes, I blame Democrats for doing that too)

4. The recent ruling by the Supreme Court of recess appointments: it affects all Presidents, current and future. No doubt if a GOP wins the White House in 2016, they will work to reverse that ruling. Here is a statistic to ponder:

"According to reports from the Congressional Research Service, during their time in office President Ronald Reagan made 240 recess appointments, President George H. W. Bush made 77 recess appointments, President Bill Clinton made 140 recess appointments, and George W. Bush made 171. Obama's first term has seen a paltry 28. In this context, Obama's move seems less like a power grab and more like the proverbial 98-pound weakling taking a second to wipe the sand out of his eyes. "

Source: http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/01/chart-day-presid

But the real issue here, is what defines a real 'recess', a rule I think that is interpreted differently between the House and the Senate, with the House refusing the Senate to adjourn to a real 'recess', forcing these ridiculous 'Pro Forma' Sessions.