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    Obama defends prisoner exchange for Bergdahl

    Obama defends prisoner exchange for Bergdahl

    (CNN) -- As some question whether Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is a hero or a deserter, President Barack Obama is defending the decision to secure the soldier's release from his Taliban captors in exchange for transferring five prisoners out of Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/politi...tml?hpt=hp_bn3




    What do you think?

    Was Bergdahl that was traded for a deserter?

    Fellow soldiers call Bowe Bergdahl a deserter, not a hero

    (CNN) -- The sense of pride expressed by officials of the Obama administration at the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is not shared by many of those who served with him: veterans and soldiers who call him a deserter whose "selfish act" ended up costing the lives of better men.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/01/us/ber...ero/index.html




    How about the man in Mexico? How about exchanging millions of people who are here illegally for the one man in jail in Mexico?

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    Sorry Res, your sources are wrong. This is the official statement so it is factual.



    President Obama's national security adviser, Susan Rice, said on ABC that Bowe Bergdahl "served the United States with honor and distinction" and that "Sergeant Bergdahl wasn't simply a hostage; he was an American prisoner of war captured on the battlefield.
    Rice says, "Sergeant Bergdahl wasn't simply a hostage; he was an American prisoner of war captured on the battlefield." She adds, "We have a sacred obligation that we have upheld since the founding of our republic to do our utmost to bring back our men and women who are taken in battle, and we did that in this instance

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    What happened here, is total disregard for Congress, they by law are to be given 30 days notice before an "exchange" ever takes place, "they" (The White House) stated they didn't have enough time, they had to act fast, THIS, AFTER the guy was there for 5 years, who deserted his troop, it shows the blatant, arrogance this "group" has been showing all along, it will get worse, be aware...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgrzeb View Post
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    1. They were going to be released anyways once the war ended.
    2. How do we know if he is a deserter until we get him back to find out what happened?
    3. I think the "30 days" notice complaint is valid, however if his life (As of right now an American soldier) was truly in danger I think I can let that slide especially given the fantastic respect the current congress has for the president.
    4. A family has their son back.

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    Let's see, a guy leaves his weapon at his post and wanders off with a knife, compass, canteen, camera, and diary after emailing his parents about his disillusionment with being a US soldier saying, "I am ashamed to be an American and the title of US soldier is just the lie for fools. The horror that is America is disgusting."

    ….and it's unclear as to whether or not he deserted?

    Five high level taliban operators for one deserter with anti-american if not pro-taliban sentiments. That's a good deal if you are a completely inept fool who's incompetence in domestic policy is exceeded only by your utter failures in foreign policy, like Obama.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    1. They were going to be released anyways once the war ended.
    2. How do we know if he is a deserter until we get him back to find out what happened?
    3. I think the "30 days" notice complaint is valid, however if his life (As of right now an American soldier) was truly in danger I think I can let that slide especially given the fantastic respect the current congress has for the president.
    4. A family has their son back.
    On point 1, the Obama administration reserves the right to indefinitely detain anyone deemed a terrorist. It also reserves the right to kill anyone so labeled. We already have plans in place to exit the Afghanistan by 2016. Is the release of these five men part of our exit strategy? How do you know they were going to be released at the conclusion of the war anyway, especially when the "war on terror" is unending?

    On point 2, see above post.

    On point 4, at least 6 US soldiers deaths have been linked to operations to locate and free this deserter. Those families will never have their kids back. And to add insult to injury, the deserters father seems to have acquired stockholm syndrome by proxy, in that his social media posts and followings indicate strong support for anti-american jihadists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat My Gun View Post
    On point 1, the Obama administration reserves the right to indefinitely detain anyone deemed a terrorist. It also reserves the right to kill anyone so labeled. We already have plans in place to exit the Afghanistan by 2016. Is the release of these five men part of our exit strategy? How do you know they were going to be released at the conclusion of the war anyway, especially when the "war on terror" is unending?

    On point 2, see above post.

    On point 4, at least 6 US soldiers deaths have been linked to operations to locate and free this deserter. Those families will never have their kids back. And to add insult to injury, the deserters father seems to have acquired stockholm syndrome by proxy, in that his social media posts and followings indicate strong support for anti-american jihadists.
    All very good & valid points "Eat My Gun", I agree, plus wasn't it saif & written we will NEVER negotiate with terrorusts !!
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    President Obama admitted giving over $12MILLIONS to the "Rebels" in Syria - those rebels included Al Quaida Members.

    Now he frees five major Al Quaida leaders -

    What is this Administration doing to America's future ?
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    1. They were going to be released anyways once the war ended.
    2. How do we know if he is a deserter until we get him back to find out what happened?
    3. I think the "30 days" notice complaint is valid, however if his life (As of right now an American soldier) was truly in danger I think I can let that slide especially given the fantastic respect the current congress has for the president.
    4. A family has their son back.
    4. and how many other families have lost their sons and in the future how many will die, military and civilian, due to these terrorists being let free?

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    First, Obama breaks the law by going behind congresses back and releasing Guantanamo prisoners.

    Then, the idiot decides it would be a good idea to trade 5 top al qaeda members for an army deserter.

    What a fool, Obummer is a joke of a President.

    What was he thinking? (wait, don't answer that)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    1. They were going to be released anyways once the war ended.
    2. How do we know if he is a deserter until we get him back to find out what happened?
    3. I think the "30 days" notice complaint is valid, however if his life (As of right now an American soldier) was truly in danger I think I can let that slide especially given the fantastic respect the current congress has for the president.
    4. A family has their son back.
    1. Says who they were going to release the al qaeda leaders? It was internally debated within the White House and Obama lost so he backdoored the process. It wouldn't have happened and that's why he did it. You know what happens when you assume? You make an ass out of u and me.
    2. We know he is a deserter because of his statements prior to leaving and the fact that he ABANDONED his post without telling anyone you fool.
    3. Well now, you think it's "valid"... that's sweet. And who the eff are you to decide? Sorry, but I think congress has a little more pull than you in this matter since it's their law. You're saying congress has no respect for the President? How about your buddy Obummers respect for the laws of this nation? Oh yeah, kinda lacking isn't it?
    4. So you're saying it's ok that this deserters family has their deserter back, but what about those soldiers that died looking for this benedict arnold? I guess they aren't deserving?


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    Doesn't really surprise me that Obama would fight for the release of a deserter and traitor. Most of his decisions he makes tend to be at the expense of this country (see Amnesty, Obamacare).

    CNN) - Former Army Sgt. Evan Buetow was the team leader with Bowe Bergdahl the night Bergdahl disappeared.

    "Bergdahl is a deserter, and he's not a hero," says Buetow. "He needs to answer for what he did."

    Within days of his disappearance, says Buetow, teams monitoring radio chatter and cell phone communications intercepted an alarming message: The American is in Yahya Khel (a village two miles away). He's looking for someone who speaks English so he can talk to the Taliban.

    "I heard it straight from the interpreter's lips as he heard it over the radio," said Buetow. "There's a lot more to this story than a soldier walking away."

    The Army will review the case of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl "in a comprehensive, coordinated effort," Secretary of the Army John McHugh said Tuesday.

    The review will include speaking with Bergdahl "to better learn from him the circumstances of his disappearance and captivity," he said.

    The night Bergdahl disappeared, says Buetow, the platoon was at a small outpost, consisting of two bunkers and a perimeter of military trucks. Buetow was in one of the bunkers, and Bergdahl was supposed to be in a tent by one of the trucks.

    Then a call came through on the radio.

    "I'll never forget that line, 'Has anyone seen Bergdahl?'" says Buetow.

    Firsthand accounts from soldiers in his platoon say Bergdahl disappeared while he was on guard duty.

    Buetow says Bergdahl was about to go on guard duty, but when a fellow soldier went to wake him, he was not in his tent. He had left behind his weapons, his bullet-proof vest, and night vision gear.

    "I immediately knew, I said, 'He walked away. He walked away,'" said Buetow.

    Bergdahl walked off the observation post with nothing more than a compass, a knife, water, a digital camera and a diary, according to firsthand accounts from soldiers in his platoon.

    Read: Fellow soldiers call Bowe Bergdahl a deserter, not a hero

    Buetow was involved in the immediate search for Bergdahl, pushing a patrol into a nearby local village.

    "Immediately as we left the base, two small boys walked up to us, and they told us that they saw an American crawling in the weeds by himself," said the former Army sergeant. The search followed that lead, and others, for months.

    "For 60 days or more, I remember, just straight, all we did was search for Bergdahl," said Buetow, "essentially chasing a ghost because we never came up with anything."

    At least six soldiers were killed in subsequent searches for him, according to soldiers involved in those operations.


    The Pentagon was not able to provide details on specific operations in which any soldiers were killed during that time were involved.

    Buetow says even though those operations were not "directed missions" to search for Bergdahl, there was an underlying premise of acting on intelligence to find the missing soldier.

    "The fact of the matter is, when those soldiers were killed, they would not have been where they were at if Bergdahl hadn't left," says Buetow. "Bergdahl leaving changed the mission."

    Many soldiers in Bergdahl's platoon said attacks seemed to increase against the United States in Paktika province in the days and weeks following his disappearance.

    "Following his disappearance, IEDs started going off directly under the trucks. They were getting perfect hits every time. Their ambushes were very calculated, very methodical," said Buetow.

    http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06...lk-to-taliban/
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    Great, I'm glad you all have it figured out already. I'll hold judgment until the guy at least gets to tell his side if he has one.

    At the end of the day, he is an American and deserves to judged as such on our soil. If he did walk off the base then let him pay for his crimes here. I take no issue with that.

    Not even two weeks ago, top GOP members were "do all it can to find Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl and bring him home safely."

    At the end of the day, he is an American and deserves to judged as such on our soil. If he did walk off the base then let him pay for his crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeefan2009 View Post
    Doesn't really surprise me that Obama would fight for the release of a deserter and traitor. Most of his decisions he makes tend to be at the expense of this country (see Amnesty, Obamacare).

    CNN) - Former Army Sgt. Evan Buetow was the team leader with Bowe Bergdahl the night Bergdahl disappeared.

    "Bergdahl is a deserter, and he's not a hero," says Buetow. "He needs to answer for what he did."

    Within days of his disappearance, says Buetow, teams monitoring radio chatter and cell phone communications intercepted an alarming message: The American is in Yahya Khel (a village two miles away). He's looking for someone who speaks English so he can talk to the Taliban.

    "I heard it straight from the interpreter's lips as he heard it over the radio," said Buetow. "There's a lot more to this story than a soldier walking away."

    The Army will review the case of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl "in a comprehensive, coordinated effort," Secretary of the Army John McHugh said Tuesday.

    The review will include speaking with Bergdahl "to better learn from him the circumstances of his disappearance and captivity," he said.

    The night Bergdahl disappeared, says Buetow, the platoon was at a small outpost, consisting of two bunkers and a perimeter of military trucks. Buetow was in one of the bunkers, and Bergdahl was supposed to be in a tent by one of the trucks.

    Then a call came through on the radio.

    "I'll never forget that line, 'Has anyone seen Bergdahl?'" says Buetow.

    Firsthand accounts from soldiers in his platoon say Bergdahl disappeared while he was on guard duty.

    Buetow says Bergdahl was about to go on guard duty, but when a fellow soldier went to wake him, he was not in his tent. He had left behind his weapons, his bullet-proof vest, and night vision gear.

    "I immediately knew, I said, 'He walked away. He walked away,'" said Buetow.

    Bergdahl walked off the observation post with nothing more than a compass, a knife, water, a digital camera and a diary, according to firsthand accounts from soldiers in his platoon.

    Read: Fellow soldiers call Bowe Bergdahl a deserter, not a hero

    Buetow was involved in the immediate search for Bergdahl, pushing a patrol into a nearby local village.

    "Immediately as we left the base, two small boys walked up to us, and they told us that they saw an American crawling in the weeds by himself," said the former Army sergeant. The search followed that lead, and others, for months.

    "For 60 days or more, I remember, just straight, all we did was search for Bergdahl," said Buetow, "essentially chasing a ghost because we never came up with anything."

    At least six soldiers were killed in subsequent searches for him, according to soldiers involved in those operations.


    The Pentagon was not able to provide details on specific operations in which any soldiers were killed during that time were involved.

    Buetow says even though those operations were not "directed missions" to search for Bergdahl, there was an underlying premise of acting on intelligence to find the missing soldier.

    "The fact of the matter is, when those soldiers were killed, they would not have been where they were at if Bergdahl hadn't left," says Buetow. "Bergdahl leaving changed the mission."

    Many soldiers in Bergdahl's platoon said attacks seemed to increase against the United States in Paktika province in the days and weeks following his disappearance.

    "Following his disappearance, IEDs started going off directly under the trucks. They were getting perfect hits every time. Their ambushes were very calculated, very methodical," said Buetow.

    http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06...lk-to-taliban/
    Stop it you’re making too much sense. Regardless of all the scandals this inept and clueless administration has been involved in, no libtard or ass-kissing liberal media will ever acknowledge any one of them for the f***up they are. They blindly and recklessly continue to support a so-called 'cool dude' who is doing what he openly promised to do, take this country in another direction. Well he is certainly doing that with executive decree and where 90% of the electorate is just clueless as to what is occurring.

    Trading five identified, hardened killers for one American AWOL soldier who professed he was ashamed of his country is outrageous. His own fellow soldiers attest to his traitorous action, but the government says we need to find out what he was thinking and why he left the base. Here comes another BS government cover-up.

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