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    Quote Originally Posted by Achbek1
    But maybe a compromise, a variety of both upscale and casual places-- make the waterfront accessible for everyone. That way both the flip-flop crowd and the topsiders crowd will be happy.
    I agree. That's the essence of a city ... a spectrum of high brow and low brow and everything in between. I've said this before, but it bears repeating, I think: there seems to be a trend for many city "advocates" in Buffalo to attempt to enforce their view of what's "good" on everyone else -- hence, the opposition to chains of any type on Elmwood; the view that every old building that isn't renovated into upscale housing is "deteriorating" even if it's a sound, occupied building; the dislike of more suburban-style housing in the city, etc. There needs to be more acceptance that not everybody can afford champagne, and that not everybody who can afford it, has a taste for champagne any time much less all the time.
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    Need more beaches! Along the lake, except we're on the wrong side and the BOULDERS that are strewn along the waterfront hurt! And they can't be cleaned out, because they come back in a different pattern every morning.
    But Woodlawn, Bennet, and more are nice beaches and should be enhanced and made available. We should have ALL beach along that stretch with park area, rest rooms, parking and a few "beachy" hot dog stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speaker
    The Buffalo waterfront at the junction of the river and lake is colder and windier than downtown buffalo. But that shouldn't stop anyone.
    What I don't want to see is private residences of any form, springing up. Buffalo and Erie County should be trying to buy up the waterfront to be made into parks for the public, not for the land to be cordoned off from the public. Why do the developers, etc., keep attempting this. I think everyone should stay on top of this. Developers keep trying to sneak private ownership into what is rightfully public property.
    The public has access along the outer harbor water, or at least will. The money is in place. Are you proposing ALL the land be turned into a park? Start coughing up $$$ to fund it. If not, LaSalle Park is underutilized. Too windy along the water- Tifft Farm is nearby. 'Rightfully public property'- according to??? So we should buy up all of the homes in Hoover Beach, Lake Shore Road, all around Grand Island, etc. etc. etc? Rethink that please.

    Crawdaddy's is now Shanghai Reds- open over a year now.
    300 condos doesn't create demand for stores- agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheresthesun
    Maybe it was Buffy who recently mentioned, "the Buffalo Shuffle?" In any case, I'd mentioned before, a long time ago, that Baltimore's Inner Harbor isn't all that different, physically, from Buffalo's waterfront. Difference is that they developed theirs, and it's thriving. Not sure why this model wouldn't work, to some extent, in Buffalo, except the obvious, "Buffalo Shuffle." Maryland's weather, not much different than ours, hasn't impeded their inner harbor progress whatsoever. It's not a complicated model.
    Maryland's weather is much different from Buffalo's, especially in the winter.

    First off, Maryland's weather is much more temperate than Buffalo's. Average winter highs are about 10 degrees F warmer than Buffalo's and the average winter lows are about 6 degrees warmer. Baltimore is also less windy than Buffalo. I'm not sure where Baltimore's weather station is, but Buffalo's is at the airport, a good ten miles inland from Buffalo's waterfront, and the wind is always stronger at the shore than inland.

    Moreover, Baltimore is on the western shore of Chesapeake Bay so it's protected from prevailing westerly winds off the water and from the worst of Atlantic storms by the land masses on both sides of the bay. Buffalo sits at the eastern end of Lake Erie, so it gets the prevailing westerlies off the water all year around, except in those months when the lake is frozen, unbroken by land masses.

    Apparently, Baltimore's harbor doesn't freeze and so hardy folks can use their craft all year round. The only boat that operates in Buffalo's harbor in the winter is the icebreaker, which was used over the weekend to break ice on the Buffalo River to help prevent ice jam flooding upstream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastPerspective
    The public has access along the outer harbor water, or at least will. The money is in place. Are you proposing ALL the land be turned into a park? Start coughing up $$$ to fund it. If not, LaSalle Park is underutilized. Too windy along the water- Tifft Farm is nearby. 'Rightfully public property'- according to??? So we should buy up all of the homes in Hoover Beach, Lake Shore Road, all around Grand Island, etc. etc. etc? Rethink that please.

    Crawdaddy's is now Shanghai Reds- open over a year now.
    300 condos doesn't create demand for stores- agreed!
    No, of course i don't think we should try and take over Hoover Beach, Lake Shore Road, Grand Island or etc. etc. etc.
    Think north of the downtown waterfront.

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    A few restaurants with private docks would be great on the water front.
    Granted it's not a perfect comparison, but Chautauqua lake has a few restaurants on the lake with dock access, and they all do a lot of business.
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