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    Grand Island Welcome Center

    Also know as the former Dunlop HQ on Long Road at the 190, at the North end of the island.

    This eyesore has sat, vaccant and rotting, for a decade or more and it seems that local government is powerless to force the owners to mow the grass or board up the windows, let alone clean the graffitti. This is the first thing many visitors see when they enter Grand Island. No wionder there is so much vacant commercial real estate in a very wealthy town.

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    Maybe use it as a fire training site

    I think your Supervisor is a Grand Island Fireman - see if they can use the building as a fire training excerise and burn it down! This company was the savior for Grand Island when they arrived to lower your taxes with it's great promises. Oh well that's pretty much how most of W.N.Y. has gone, but I agree the real estate market - other than the Casino, is a bust in your neck of the woods.

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    Once upon a time a developer came to check out the dunlop building for the possibility of building a hotel. He was referred to the town engineer(John Phillips), they took a tour of the building and grounds, the asbestos wasn't a problem as they would eliminate it and build onto the bldg.

    The problem it seemed was the huge septic system that would have been required to install. The developer asked about sewers, he was told there was no access to sewers so a septic was the only option. The idea of spending millions on a septic system deterred the developer and he walked away.

    Truth be told, when they did some major repair work on that section of the 190 a sleeve was installed for sewer to be run under the 190. John Phillips told him a bold faced lie.

    The major problem we have here is an anti business town board. They work against business growth on the island and the biggest detrement is Learman the bldg inspector, the engineering dept and the town board. McMahon told me that he would listen more to the businesses if he could be promised 100 votes as he gets from quality quest.

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    Grand Island Anti-Business!!!

    I wouldn't say it's anti-business, it's called " Unless you can line my pocket, I won't let you line yours" People like Mrs. Lang, L Grant and a few others years ago took over Grand Island. They were out for their own good, plucking up prime development land cheap - and then getting the development aid to promise big business. You do have a Business Park, you do have the new Imigration / B. Patrol building, you have the Fucillio Dealership (god I hate that commercial), you even have that huge, money rich drug co. - can't think of it's name. I think what Grand Island needs is to eliminate the bridges and keep everyone on the island to support the small businesses that come and go like flies. The trouble is, the town as you mentioned, won't let development go on the west side of the 190? There are various areas where the state put in pipes just as you metioned for sewer to be expanded to the west. I guess the right people with the power don't own property there. Amherst was fairly flat on dvelopement until people on the board owned some of the areas that got developed - look at it now. Good luck, I still just want to go to the Bedell House and have a beer, spill some so it runs down the floor into the river. Or the Idlehour - is that still there?

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    You may be getting some help - the ECIDA has given a bunch of money to either renovate or tear down the building. Good luck! In Sardinia (the area of projected sprawl? as Joel G. called it) couldn't muster up anything for a commercial / industrial park. Well we do have the Republican's that control the board and have about as much vision as someone waiting for eye surgery at 97 yrs. of age. They do have a great sense of smell as the landfill there get's their support without so much as waiver. You don't think.....

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    Yes I saw that it was coming.. I am trying to find more info about it and the deal made..

    Seems too many are having their pockets lined in the town. When the zoning officer threatens people to either list with his real estate business or he will drag them into court for any and all violations, we have lost control of the town once again..

    I just may have to get very vocal again.. The Republicans hate me here, I just call them as I see them, corrupt.

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    Man it seems like the same story all over WNY, or is it all over NY, or is all over the USA? The only salvation in Sardinia is a Supervisor who is actually self supporting and no real party ties. She answers to no one and it absolutely drives the Republican's crazy. I think the problem with Grand Island or any farming community is the land is held so sacred by the land owners that it's theirs and no one elses, which is true in some sense. Maybe this is why eminent domain is becoming an issue. Money sometimes isn't even the issue - it's DON"T TAKE MY LAND - even if you pay me. I bet people who own 25 or 50 acres would rather talk about how much land they have vs what it could be really used for. Good luck with those politicans and keep up the fight - nothing is gained by sitting back. Is that Idle Hour still open or Ceil & Chucks? Man those where the good old days!!

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    Funny thing is that farming is not allowed according to the zoning codes..
    Can you imagine, farming is what built this community.

    The Idle Hour, is that the one on E River that is on the water? If so, yes it's still there. (Ceil & Chucks?) Don't know what that is..

    Most of the bars are still open, some of the restaurants have closed.
    You were right that people do not support the businesses on the island, they leave for most everything.

    The once approved South Pointe land was just sold for a million bucks, the people that bought it are going to build some type of University.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RusThompson
    The Idle Hour, is that the one on E River that is on the water? If so, yes it's still there. (Ceil & Chucks?) Don't know what that is..
    Idle Hour? I don't believe I've heard of it. Can you be more specific on it's location along East River?

    Ceil and Chucks? Again, don't know this one either. Could it be the old Del and Herbs?

    Most of the bars are still open, some of the restaurants have closed.
    You were right that people do not support the businesses on the island, they leave for most everything.
    Turner's and BA's (the old Z's) are still open. I don't know how the smoking ban effected either one. And TC's is still going strong.
    The Village Inn and The Beach House still do good business. I think Sandy's is still open too as is The Peppermill.

    We've gotten a few new establishments that look promising. Asian Buffet and The Town Cafe seem to be doing well. Jalapeno Loco's is also doing well. If you haven't tried it, I recommend it. The Java Shop just opened, but I haven't checked it out yet.

    Any word on the old restaurant/bar on West River? Went there once, way back when I first moved here 13 years ago. I think it's been closed almost as long.

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