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    we could not be getting any thing at all

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    Which would even make us more screwed.. Screwed it screwed no matter how you look at it

    Why can't we buy electric from other power stations on the grid? Like from a station that sells it's wattage for 6.31 cents a kilowatt?

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    IMO because then we won't fund $100,000 positions to the nypa jobs appointed by the state.

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    It's definitely better than nothing. At least we'll have money to fix up our waterfront. But it doesn't really correct the situation. We had a once-in-50-year opportunity to really fix it, but we ended up tweaking the status quo.

    This is how I see it....

    WNY is the down-and-out unwilling prostitute. Albany is our abusive Pimp. The Power Authority bribes Albany to rape us.

    The recent "fix" was.... they can continue to rape us as long as they buy us some nice clothes.

    After we get our new clothes (a new waterfront), we'll be a very pretty prostitute.

    Better than nothing.

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    Now why can't we start a class action suit and get spitzer involved? I though he protects the consumer?

    If he's running for governor wouldn't this be something he could do to prove he wants the best for NYS?

    If he doesn't I guess that means he's just a part of the "system" which has crippled economic growth in WNY.

    We got this much so far, lets squeeze more out of them. They squeeze more from us on a dailey basis.

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    Spitzer 's not doing anything except "run" on a campaign built on his past achievements; he's not looking to rock any boats b4 the election.

    as for the NYSpa, it would be an even better deal had it not been for 50 years. Why not renegoitiate in a more reasonable time period than once a generation

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    http://www.classactionconnect.com/faqs.htm frequesntly asked questions
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    1. What is a class action?
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    I wonder what John Stossel could do digging a little deeper.

    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/ABCNEWSSpecial/

    I'm going to email him tonite and ask him a few questions

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    To email 20/20

    GO to that page if you don't mind and email them.

    I wonder if they could dig even deeper into the records of the power authority to see why we pay so much for electric compared to well, EVERYWHERE else except for HI.

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    sent my email

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    From WBEN :

    "Over the next 12 to 36 months, the Buffalo waterfront, the inner harbor and the outer harbor, will take on a dramatically different look and feel," Higgins says. "(Y)ou're going to see major announcements relative to the Skyway, relative to Fuhrmann Boulivard (and) outer harbor access."


    will they use some of this money towards taking down the skyway???

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    Originally posted by 300miles
    It's definitely better than nothing. At least we'll have money to fix up our waterfront. But it doesn't really correct the situation. We had a once-in-50-year opportunity to really fix it, but we ended up tweaking the status quo.

    This is how I see it....

    WNY is the down-and-out unwilling prostitute. Albany is our abusive Pimp. The Power Authority bribes Albany to rape us.

    The recent "fix" was.... they can continue to rape us as long as they buy us some nice clothes.

    After we get our new clothes (a new waterfront), we'll be a very pretty prostitute.

    Better than nothing.
    Now that is a good analogy!
    People who wonder if the glass is half empty or full miss the point. The glass is refillable.

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    Will the waterfront really be developed with these NYPA funds?

    Was the tobacco money used for smoking cessation programs? Was it even used for health care?
    Truth springs from argument among friends.

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    Originally posted by 300miles



    will they use some of this money towards taking down the skyway???
    No. They say it will not be used for transportation related projects. That comes under a different auspice.
    "If you want to know what God thinks of money just look at the people he gave it to."

    By the way, what happened to biker? I miss the old coot.

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    Originally posted by biker
    Will the waterfront really be developed with these NYPA funds?

    Was the tobacco money used for smoking cessation programs? Was it even used for health care?

    Who knows? But at least we will have the opportunity to find out. We may be all right if we can keep Joel out of the mix.
    "If you want to know what God thinks of money just look at the people he gave it to."

    By the way, what happened to biker? I miss the old coot.

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