View Poll Results: Should NY State be Divided in Half?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mesue View Post
    How? Why?

    He is right, it is unconstitutional to break away from NYS. It has to be approved by NYS then by the FED, but it can be done!
    "I know you guys enjoy reading my stuff because it all makes sense. "

    Dumbest post ever! Thanks for the laugh PO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by run4it View Post
    for pete's friggin sake...

    IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!

    Should and Could are very different words.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougles View Post
    He is right, it is unconstitutional to break away from NYS. It has to be approved by NYS then by the FED, but it can be done!
    probably by harder work than anyone is willing to do. Too bad.
    First Amendment rights are like muscles, if you don't exercise them they will atrophy.

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    I voted yes because it's a pipe dream of mine, but I know it will never happen.

    However, instead of the 51st state.....I wanna be the 11th province.

    "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas Gandhi

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    Quote Originally Posted by run4it View Post
    for pete's friggin sake...

    IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!
    Never really stopped elected officials before has it?

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    I voted No because I think it would be more effective to direct our energy into revising state laws to establish that Upstate cities should not be under the same regulations as NYC. Once we create regulations appropriate for our region, then the area can see some real benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run4it View Post
    for pete's friggin sake...

    IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by run4it View Post
    That's debatable (though not a debate I'd particularly care to have). But what's NOT debatable, what is PERFECTLY clear, what CANNOT be mistaken:

    Article IV, Sec 3.
    but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

    Do you really think that the NYS legislature would go for it? Do you really think that the US Congress would go for it, considering that at that point there are at least 3 other states who would have areas agitating for statehood? Do you really think we need to further fracture our country along partisan lines?

    People want to sound like they're investigating "important stuff." But this is as likely as Jim-O's wet dream of returning to the Articles of Confederation. It's a freakin fairy tale about rainbows and unicorns...except the rainbow and unicorn stories would at least have happy endings.
    Is your second post admission that your first post was wrong?

    Remember this one, folks. It's not too often that run4it admits that he was wrong.

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    Congratulations Paul

    We finally agree on something....altho I don't use the word "poop" often....
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulJonson View Post
    Ch. 2 is full of great ideas......for me to poop on.
    Fully stimulated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulJonson View Post
    Ch. 2 is full of great ideas......for me to poop on.
    come on wny number 1 cheerleader ms.demler making all that money, and you don't like her ideas.
    Last edited by cheekman; March 28th, 2009 at 11:08 AM.

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    I'm all for it. I don't think a vote is the way to go. If enough people bug their legislators they will listen. If you call a vote among the people and most of NYC wants things to stay the way they are, we're a bit outnumbered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run4it View Post
    for pete's friggin sake...

    IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!
    Yep, and there's that. You can't just call a vote on this. There's a lot more to it than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Never really stopped elected officials before has it?
    I'd have a better chance of winning the lottery, having a love affair with Scarlett Johanson, being struck by lightning and living, meeting an extraterrestrial and ultimately being killed by a flying meteor, all on the same day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSense View Post
    I'd have a better chance of winning the lottery, having a love affair with Scarlett Johanson, being struck by lightning and living, meeting an extraterrestrial and ultimately being killed by a flying meteor, all on the same day!
    Hell of a way to go! count me in...
    But your being a dick
    ~Wnyresident

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfing USA View Post
    Is your second post admission that your first post was wrong?

    Remember this one, folks. It's not too often that run4it admits that he was wrong.
    Yeah, ok...in my irritation of seeing someone try to drum this stupid idea up again, I made a misstatement. Separate statehood in and of itself is not unConstitutional. But the means by which it would have to happen are simply not practical nor feasible, and are a tremendous waste of time simply BECAUSE of that improbable (no, not impossible, but about as improbable as those unicorns I was talking about) mechanism.
    But your being a dick
    ~Wnyresident

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfing USA View Post
    Is your second post admission that your first post was wrong?

    Remember this one, folks. It's not too often that run4it admits that he was wrong.
    Lets be honest, there's not too many times he his wrong.
    I never said I had no idea about most of the things you said I said I had no idea about.

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