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    High Speed Train From Buffalo to Albany?

    The stimulus money is coming. Our Governor is proposing a high speed rail train from Buffalo to Albany. This will be just another train from no place going to no place. Sounds like it will be just like our downtown rapid transit system. We all know what a great people mover that was. They now are talking about removing the rapid transit system.

    When the Federal subsidy runs out. Can this high speed train support itself? I doubt it. Those who are employed by this high speed train will fight like hell to keep it going at the taxpayers expense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna View Post
    The stimulus money is coming. Our Governor is proposing a high speed rail train from Buffalo to Albany. This will be just another train from no place going to no place. Sounds like it will be just like our downtown rapid transit system. We all know what a great people mover that was. They now are talking about removing the rapid transit system.

    When the Federal subsidy runs out. Can this high speed train support itself? I doubt it. Those who are employed by this high speed train will fight like hell to keep it going at the taxpayers expense.

    Actually, the way "Albany" (read state government) is setting this up, Albany, NY is positioned to be a major metro area.
    Deep down, I think "Albany" is trying to make that city the #2 in NYS ahead of Buffalo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    Actually, the way "Albany" (read state government) is setting this up, Albany, NY is positioned to be a major metro area.
    Deep down, I think "Albany" is trying to make that city the #2 in NYS ahead of Buffalo.
    You may be right. Albany may pass Buffalo as an economic center. If so then there is no reason for the high speed train. There will be nobody left in Buffalo to take the train to Albany.
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    Deep down, I think "Albany" is trying to make that city the #2 in NYS ahead of Buffalo.
    I stayed in Albany a couple years ago and was shocked. There are several old abandoned buildings directly across the street from the NYS Capitol and the whole city rolls its sidewalks up after 5pm. Even on Saturdays. It needs far more work than Buffalo does.

    It's a shame though. It's another beautiful city, in a great setting and has some beautiful old buildings.
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    PS - my point here is that there is currently NOTHING besides dysfunctional state politics to make Albany a hub of anything. Buffalo and Niagara Falls have far more going for them.
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    Buffalo & Niagara Falls have more going for them? dude, take a look around! The only thing "going" is workers and business! Going away! THe only thing a new train system is going to do is help everyone leave faster!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Miller View Post
    PS - my point here is that there is currently NOTHING besides dysfunctional state politics to make Albany a hub of anything. Buffalo and Niagara Falls have far more going for them.
    As i said in another post, you must remember Albany IS much more of a hub as it's centrally located for the NE's 4 largest cities, NYC, BOSTON, Toronto and Montreal/Quebec. Additionally it's the "gateway" for 2 large mountain chains and state parks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Miller View Post
    I stayed in Albany a couple years ago and was shocked. There are several old abandoned buildings directly across the street from the NYS Capitol and the whole city rolls its sidewalks up after 5pm. Even on Saturdays. It needs far more work than Buffalo does.

    It's a shame though. It's another beautiful city, in a great setting and has some beautiful old buildings.
    Growing up near there, Albany HAS utilized it's water front a little better than Buffalo. They have cleaned up one side of the river and it does look decent! the other side is another issue since it's not technically Albany. They do have alot of similar summer events as Buffalo short of some of the art stuff, but with Saratoga within 30 min drive it more than makes up for it.

    A lot of cities in the state have GREAT possibility, but white plight and poloticians have ruinded them!
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    Driving the 90 West from Boston to Albany, I was excited and impressed at the spectacular presence the city has and what a great first impression it makes. Even when we drove around and found a hotel, I was still impressed at the beautiful old buildings. It wasn't until we tried to find some place open (at 6pm on a Saturday night) and had to walk to Lark St. and down it aways that I noticed the abandoned buildings.

    I'm not sure what New York's solutions are. They're probably not hidden within high speed rail projects, but I believe that this could be a good solution for the future, when oil prices go back to much higher levels and STAY there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Miller View Post
    I stayed in Albany a couple years ago and was shocked. There are several old abandoned buildings directly across the street from the NYS Capitol and the whole city rolls its sidewalks up after 5pm. Even on Saturdays. It needs far more work than Buffalo does.

    It's a shame though. It's another beautiful city, in a great setting and has some beautiful old buildings.
    With the "stolen" power from WNY, Albany has emerged as a major power player in the technology sector.

    Because of pork from Albany to the Albany region, a $4.2BILLION computer chip factory will be built in Albany.

    Because of pork from Albany to the Albany region, the University of Albany has a nanotechnology program that is growing and is a complement to tech sector.

    The vision of Albany is to be the tech hub of the east. Unlike Buffalo, Albany wants to enter into the 21st century in terms of jobs. The reason they are able to do this is because the government jobs are mostly STATE jobs and the burden is shared with places like Buffalo.

    They are essentially following the road map of Silicon Valley and Standford, which grew up from "nothing" in the last 40 years.

    While people in WNY look for low-skill/high wage/union jobs...Albany is going a completely different direction funded on the backs of state taxpayers.

    Put it this way...the moment high speed train travel connects Albany to NYC on a consistent basis...Albany is going to blow up. In a good way.

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    Put it this way...the moment high speed train travel connects Albany to NYC on a consistent basis...Albany is going to blow up. In a good way.
    I really hope so, Left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    Put it this way...the moment high speed train travel connects Albany to NYC on a consistent basis...Albany is going to blow up. In a good way.
    ....and there will be no reason for a Buffalo connection. Except for the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    With the "stolen" power from WNY, Albany has emerged as a major power player in the technology sector.

    Because of pork from Albany to the Albany region, a $4.2BILLION computer chip factory will be built in Albany.

    Because of pork from Albany to the Albany region, the University of Albany has a nanotechnology program that is growing and is a complement to tech sector.

    They are essentially following the road map of Silicon Valley and Standford, which grew up from "nothing" in the last 40 years.


    Put it this way...the moment high speed train travel connects Albany to NYC on a consistent basis...Albany is going to blow up. In a good way.
    This could actually be a taxpayer funded program that pays off.
    And if handled correctly a boon for the whole state.
    Once these nano carbon tubie thingys are ready for production.
    They'll be a need for new manufacturing facilities.

    Maybe next to existing college towns which could initiate the training programs these new high tech manufacturing jobs would require.
    The center of the applied end of nano research is going on at RPI.
    Google RPI and nano and see whats planned.

    So you might want to be a stop on the high speed nano train.
    Albany the head of R and D
    Upstate handles manufacturing and distribution.
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    Wall street will have a new industry to invent worthless derivative investments so they can earn big commissions while screwing the public.
    And everyone will have more money to vacation in the Adirondacks.

    good times ahead.
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