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    Teachers Union brings trash, pornagraphy and rascism. Dark side of Union Politics !



    The anonymous group or groups trying to influence the Buffalo School Board election may be creating a new low in the coarseness of local politics, but at least one observer is predicting the efforts could produce a backlash.

    Although no one has taken responsibility for the pricey mailers that continue targeting select candidates ahead of Tuesday’s elections, speculation remains rife that one or more well-funded unions are behind them.

    And the state teachers union – which previously denied any involvement – now won’t deny it is sending them.

    “You should know after the election,” said Mike Deely, regional director of the New York State United Teachers union, which claims 600,000 members statewide.

    The mailers attack candidates opposed by the Buffalo Teachers Federation and endorse some they support. They’re all printed and sent out by Atlas Direct Mail, which owns the postal permit number that appears on the back.

    “The pieces that are being mailed are some of the ugliest I’ve ever seen,” said Peter Reese, a local attorney versed in election law and election law finance.

    “What concerns me is, if you create an environment that is so reviling and so disgusting, and so expensive, who are we going to get to run?

    “I’m also wondering if there will be a backlash.”

    Atlas Direct has printed mailings in the past on behalf of unions, including the Service Employees International Union, but this particular client remains a mystery. An executive for the Long Island-based company, citing privacy concerns, refused to reveal the client’s identity and isn’t obligated to under election law.
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    If someone within the system knows who the person directly responsible behind this please post it up. A child's education directly influences for the most part how their future turns out.

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    Which is precisely why there should be charters in Lancaster. No UNIONS.

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    Stop the union bashing on this board.

    It's because of the union that public school teachers have been doing less with more for the last 45 years.

    You just won't get that kind of performance in non-union private schools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoobie View Post
    Which is precisely why there should be charters in Lancaster. No UNIONS.
    Your missing the point I'm failing to make..

    It isn't about Unions. It is the mentality of the people behind the mailings. You really want people with that mentality teaching kids? That isn't a good roll model to follow.

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    WNY: They were running scared and for good reason. They saw their party and games coming to an end and that's just what happened. Paladino will be a great leader in getting the mess within the BPS cleaned up

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    Part of my point is that many Unions have been co-opted by "Politics".

    The members are lead to believe they have to support the "Political access game" - they allow their Union PAC Funds to be used to finance "Access" to elected Officials. So what they do is tie their financial future to those same "Politicians."

    While I believe Unions do serve the "Interests" of their members - but all too often they (Leaders) serve the needs of Political Agendas. They "buy" access to the very same person who was elected to represent them/taxpayers. Why should anyone "pay" for access to the vary same person they elected ?

    How many times does the end "game" result in those "Labor Leaders" becoming a "Appointed Official" themselves. They cross over from carrying members money to Politicians - into those who make a living being supported by the system/game!

    I am not bashing "Teachers" - I respect "Teachers" - I don't respect those who use them as a voting block to further their own "Political Agendas" - maybe thats the point being missed.
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Well, the state is preparing to close Community Charter school. A place where non-union employees could not make a difference in the testing outcomes of impoverished children. So the non-lazy, hard-working, getting the best results from competition, longer school day, busting through the read tape, etc., etc., all the talking points of anti-union sentiment were unable to create the change that everyone blamed the unions for not achieving for the past 45 years. Yep, lazy teachers and their unions are definitely to blame.

    For those that want to make the political machinery the issue isn't this the same machinery that now has a member of the school board someone with his own agenda that will seek to undermine any union membership? Paladino will push very hard for the creation of multiple charters so that he can lease the buildings to them. And you are crying boo-hoo about a mailer? Here's a person who will have real power to influence outcomes in his favor and you're crying foul over some mailers.

    Let's see how else government has been co-opted.
    Hmm, are unions the only one doing this? I don't see people decrying hedge fund managers on the board. Well that's because they are the private sector and they are the "net taxpayers" and the "job creators". Well unemployment is at a record high and I don't see many jobs being created even as the stock market grows and GDP rises...

    http://www.opensecrets.org/industrie....php?ind=F2700

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    Good smoke.

    Almost everything your quoting is a part of the "Pay to Play" game called "Politics".

    The game that has dominated our country for years and must change.

    The lions share of taxes paid by the average home owning is created and controlled by "Local Politicians".
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4248 View Post
    Good smoke.

    Almost everything your quoting is a part of the "Pay to Play" game called "Politics".

    The game that has dominated our country for years and must change.

    The lions share of taxes paid by the average home owning is created and controlled by "Local Politicians".
    Fine, I'll agree with that. You want to deconstruct our corrupt government fine. Why pick NYSUT first? I guess it ultimately does not matter, but just to make sure you understand, Paladino is also part of this corrupt system.

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    OK - we are getting closer!

    No, I don't propose to , "deconstruct our corrupt government" - yet I definitely believe it is corrupted from the smallest Village to the White House. I do believe , as millions do - that its broken. The system has been removed from the people and runs on "Political Power and Private Interests"

    We need to stop excusing "Our Political Groups" actions and hold them accountable. All voters/taxpayers should object to personal assassinations - mud slinging - anonymous untrue mailers - financial discrimination and so on. Is this what we all want Government/Politics to be?

    If we support it or excuse it - we are then giving them permission to continue.
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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