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    Smile Let's examine the whole "Messiah" thing

    Here's what happened over the past year, or so...

    Sometime last year, it became abundantly apparent that Barack Hussein Obama had a real chance at winning this thing.

    For many of you, this was just a complete shock. How could so many people support someone who's principle's were so different than your's? (Not to mention the fact that his middle name is Hussein.)

    So, the reaction, spawned and fueled by the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, and Baurle was "It's not us that's crazy - it's them"... "They're brainwashed. They think this guy is the second coming of Christ"...."They're sipping the KoolAid"... And the more you heard it, the more you believed it.

    And, it was a brilliant strategy. Although the strategy failed miserably where it really mattered (at the polls), it was a great success in making you all feel better about yourselves. Cause, how could so many people support this guy so passionately, if not for the fact that they're brainwashed. And, more importantly, it got you guys all pumped up. And, what do you do when you're pumped up? You tune into Conservative radio, so you can hear other sane people, who think the way you do.

    And, the truth is, I know exactly how you feel. Cause in 2004, I was shocked. Even though, I was nowhere near being enthusiastic about Kerry, I seriously thought the election would be a shutout that year. I didn't think any American would vote for Bush.

    But, as much as I was shocked by the results, I never thought you people were brainwashed, or anything like that. I simply chalked it up to you being either stupid or crazy. I have very good friends who are voted for Bush. And, they're wonderful people, but they're just plain stupid.

    So, if it makes you all feel better, to think that the rest of us look at Obama as the Second Coming, or the Messiah...then be my guest. It truly is entertaining. I thought it was annoying a first, but I'm way past that.

    Keep it up, folks. Just don't expect us to share our Kool Aid with you when you get thirsty.

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    I never bought into the Messiah thing either.

    I just think you're either stupid or crazy....


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    Therising: I just heard on the news that Obama has already followed through on 20 of the 510 promises he made during his campaign. In my opinion, people can call him what they want. He seems to be doing an outstanding job so far. This is where it all matters.


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    Hmm. . . I never bought into the Messiah thing either. That it is a fabricated right-wing construct, I'm sure, has nothing to do with it. Just like political correctness.
    One beautiful thing about having a government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations is that every disaster is measured in terms of economic loss. It's sort of like getting your arm sheared off in a car accident and thinking, "Damn, now it'll take longer to fold the laundry" as blood spurts from your arteries. - The Rude Pundit

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    Quote Originally Posted by therising View Post
    But, as much as I was shocked by the results, I never thought you people were brainwashed, or anything like that. I simply chalked it up to you being either stupid or crazy.
    You didn't consider the people brainwashed because there was no comparison with the attitude around Obama today and Bush in 2004. In 2004, some Bush supporters were skeptical on some issues of his performance, but Kerry just wan't an acceptable option. Kerry was a dead end. The Obama camp has the extreme "he can do no wrong" mentality. I hear people talk about the bailout... the same people that accused Bush of lying about the need for one, suddenly believe that it's absolutly necessary because Obama said so.

    It's also everywhere... beyond politics. I was trying on clothes at Kohl's last week and saw a sign on the wall about their quality saying "Yes We Can!" in bold letters. I was in Target around Christmas and noticed children's books idolizing Obama like he's superman. It's borders on the ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    I was in Target around Christmas and noticed children's books idolizing Obama like he's superman. It's borders on the ridiculous.
    Compared to Bush, Obama is superman.

    It all depends on context.

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    The irrational rapture the masses seemed to be in, was in part due to Bush's terrible approval rating. I was no fan of GW but seeing people crying and transfixed in a Madgegorie (sp) type trance was a quasi religious experience.

    The belief that people have that one man can bring the country back a saviour if you will. Our country can be brought from the depths of despair by a messiah.

    The messiah was an advocate for the poor, the forgotten, the underprivileged, and thus so is Obama.

    It shows how desperate we have become when a man with no achievements or experience can rise to such elevations. Christ came from relative obscurity from the get go as well.

    Rising, the parallels are frightening.

    I don't buy into feel good rapture,, just get the job done without a hammer and sickle and I will be a believer

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    Oh I almost forgot

    A jew to become king,

    A black man to become president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
    Compared to Bush, Obama is superman.

    It all depends on context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Save Us View Post
    The belief that people have that one man can bring the country back a saviour if you will.
    Save Us: I don't believe that Obama nor the people that really followed his campaign believe that "one" man can bring the country back.

    Throughout his campaign and until today, Obama has repeatedly said that the election wasn't gained by one person and that one person cannot turnaround the problems that our country faces. It took the work of all us to get to the election and it will continue to take the work of all of us to get the country back on track again.

    In addition, the republicans did more to help the Obama campaign than hinder it. Above and beyond Bush's poor approval rating lied Mc Cain's poorly run campaign.

    John Mc Cain focused on bashing Obama rather than outlining his plan. It didn't help when Mc Cain assured the people that we would be in Iraq for another hundred years. Mc Cain also agreed with far too many of Bush's proposals which also led the people to believe that his election would bring 4-8 more years of the same torn down Bush policies. Mc Cain's need for an R&R in his Arizona home (on most weekends) during the campaign while Obama appeared to be on the trail 24/7 led me to believe that electing Mc Cain would mean another president spending 265 days (within the first 2 years of presidency like Bush) in his home. Mc Cain is 71 years old - His views and physical wearwithall showed same.

    I have no doubt that Obama worked hard during the campaign and will continue to work hard to turn our country around. If the media wants to capsulize Obama's hard work as the "Messiah" so beit. Those of us who followed his campaign know that we are all in this together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anotherview View Post
    Save Us: I don't believe that Obama nor the people that really followed his campaign believe that "one" man can bring the country back.

    Throughout his campaign and until today, Obama has repeatedly said that the election wasn't gained by one person and that one person cannot turnaround the problems that our country faces. It took the work of all us to get to the election and it will continue to take the work of all of us to get the country back on track again.

    In addition, the republicans did more to help the Obama campaign than hinder it. Above and beyond Bush's poor approval rating lied Mc Cain's poorly run campaign.

    John Mc Cain focused on bashing Obama rather than outlining his plan. It didn't help when Mc Cain assured the people that we would be in Iraq for another hundred years. Mc Cain also agreed with far too many of Bush's proposals which also led the people to believe that his election would bring 4-8 more years of the same torn down Bush policies. Mc Cain's need for an R&R in his Arizona home (on most weekends) during the campaign while Obama appeared to be on the trail 24/7 led me to believe that electing Mc Cain would mean another president spending 265 days (within the first 2 years of presidency like Bush) in his home. Mc Cain is 71 years old - His views and physical wearwithall showed same.

    I have no doubt that Obama worked hard during the campaign and will continue to work hard to turn our country around. If the media wants to capsulize Obama's hard work as the "Messiah" so beit. Those of us who followed his campaign know that we are all in this together.
    I honestly believe that the Republicans purposely blew this election so it will be easier for them to win in 2012, after Obama falls on his face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfing USA View Post
    I honestly believe that the Republicans purposely blew this election so it will be easier for them to win in 2012, after Obama falls on his face.
    Surfing USA: I am cautiously optimistic that this will not happen but I will admit the jury is still out. Also, I am not so sure that 4 years will heal the damage that Bush has done over the past 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anotherview View Post
    I am not so sure that 4 years will heal the damage that Bush has done over the past 8.
    Didn't Obama say something to this extent, AFTER, he won the election?

    If memory serves me, he led many of his followers to believe he'd fix things overnight, prior to the election, and then changed his tune rather quickly once elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfing USA View Post
    Didn't Obama say something to this extent, AFTER, he won the election?

    If memory serves me, he led many of his followers to believe he'd fix things overnight, prior to the election, and then changed his tune rather quickly once elected.
    Surfing: I remember during one of the debates, the question was asked if the candidates thought they could turn the economy around in a year. When Mc Cain answered yes, Obama looked at him as if he was nuts. Obama's response was that it would take longer than a year maybe a whole first term of presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anotherview View Post
    Surfing: I remember during one of the debates, the question was asked if the candidates thought they could turn the economy around in a year. When Mc Cain answered yes, Obama looked at him as if he was nuts. Obama's response was that it would take longer than a year maybe a whole first term of presidency.
    I thought he said he could do it in one term. Thanks for the verification.

    Funny how his tune changed so quickly after he was elected.

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