American Educates Police at Checkpoint

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[Frank Broughton]

Crazy Pastor Sanders Anderson, he is always looking for trouble... haha

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

Did I see border bob in one of those videos? I think he was the guy who was under the umbrella...

[BorderBob]

Did I see border bob in one of those videos? I think he was the guy who was under the umbrella...

I'm in a couple checkpoint videos, but not these. They are painful to watch though. Mostly because the patrol agents don't know the answer to that question. "Am I being detained?"



"Yes you are."


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[Bringthetruth]

I'm in a couple checkpoint videos, but not these. They are painful to watch though. Mostly because the patrol agents don't know the answer to that question. "Am I being detained?"



"Yes you are."


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Border Bob. see you don't coment on the more serious threads about LEA, but you post in this one. hmmmm

[FMD]

If a person has broken no law, and is not under investigation, what authority does LEO's have to stop search and demand identification?

Thought we lived in America, 4th amendment? 5th amendment?

What right do you have to search any vehicle at anytime and to demand a persons identification?This isnt Nazi Germany.

The idea that our Govt is using 'terrorism' as a pretext to stop, interrogate, harass and search people as they drive down the road, is pretty damn scary if you ask me.

Ya know, as a nation, we were told that 9/11 occurred because the terrorists hated our freedoms.

So 10 years later, what did america do? They got rid of all those freedoms.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

I'm in a couple checkpoint videos, but not these. They are painful to watch though. Mostly because the patrol agents don't know the answer to that question. "Am I being detained?"



"Yes you are."

BS. I would love to hear how you, a border patrol agent, can detain someone on a checkpoint on the 8 Highway in California.

There is no underlying cause for these people to be questioned. It's a borderline 'consensual encounter' by the sheer fact of the check point. Without suspicion of something you would not be able to detain this person.

[BorderBob]

BS. I would love to hear how you, a border patrol agent, can detain someone on a checkpoint on the 8 Highway in California.

There is no underlying cause for these people to be questioned. It's a borderline 'consensual encounter' by the sheer fact of the check point. Without suspicion of something you would not be able to detain this person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...artinez-Fuerte (for the layman)

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/fede.../543/case.html (for those interested in the actual decision)

Checkpoints are established for immigration purposes and have been upheld time and time again by the USSC. What you typically have with these checkpoint "activists" are individuals who would never be suspected of being illegal aliens but who posture in ways designed to provoke a response from Patrol Agents.

They usually get it. But as I pointed out earlier, we can and WILL detain you for immigration purposes until that purpose is met. How long it takes usually is determined by the driver of the vehicle.

(full disclosure, I am not a Border Patrol Agent, but have worked several checkpoints while TDY to Arizona)



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[Yankeefan2009]

That kid needs to get punched in the face. Hard. "Is this Nazi Germany"... Shut the F*** up.