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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I find it odd that that a group of people who are paid what they are came up with this hire.

    The executive Director's salarywhich doesn't include what we pay them for their health care/pension cost...

    Annual $164,848 2010
    Annual $140,824 2009
    Annual $154,795 2008

    So the best pick for a "contract monitor" is someone who is a "chef". Do you think out of the pool of qualified people in Erie County someone with real experience and/or schooling as a "contract monitor" would be hired?
    How many chefs do you know? How many executive chefs who ran a Disney operation do you know? Do you not realize that part of a chef's job is to handle - on a daily basis - contractual matters pertaining to procurement and disposal of food, hiring & firing of workers, coordinating the entire kitchen/BOH operation, and handling purveyor contracts? Now assume you do it for a kitchen that essentially puts on a 12 hour-long banquet every day. Yeah, I'm sure he's just a dope who makes subs.
    This website makes money off of a depraved and idiotic conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    How many chefs do you know? How many executive chefs who ran a Disney operation do you know? Do you not realize that part of a chef's job is to handle - on a daily basis - contractual matters pertaining to procurement and disposal of food, hiring & firing of workers, coordinating the entire kitchen/BOH operation, and handling purveyor contracts? Now assume you do it for a kitchen that essentially puts on a 12 hour-long banquet every day. Yeah, I'm sure he's just a dope who makes subs.
    Res, you can see he went and talked with Poloncarz - getting their lingo down now. After all he is one of his unofficial spokesmen no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    How many chefs do you know? How many executive chefs who ran a Disney operation do you know? Do you not realize that part of a chef's job is to handle - on a daily basis - contractual matters pertaining to procurement and disposal of food, hiring & firing of workers, coordinating the entire kitchen/BOH operation, and handling purveyor contracts? Now assume you do it for a kitchen that essentially puts on a 12 hour-long banquet every day. Yeah, I'm sure he's just a dope who makes subs.
    Don't you understand that none of that matters? This is nepotism and it is always wrong in the public sector. That is especially true in this area that has a long history of wasting taxpayers money and inefficient, bloated government. Poloncarz' position was vacant for some time which means it wasn't needed and should have been eliminated. The reason the taxpayers do not want nepotism is because we know that no matter how bad they are at their job, they can never be fired. And the employee knows that and they perform accordingly. Friends and family of politicians should be banned from taxpayer funded jobs. If you don't like that, don't run for office. Tough darts. There are plenty of people not related to the CE who are perfectly qualified to do this job and probably for a lot less taxpayer money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by equinox View Post
    Don't you understand that none of that matters? This is nepotism and it is always wrong in the public sector. That is especially true in this area that has a long history of wasting taxpayers money and inefficient, bloated government. Poloncarz' position was vacant for some time which means it wasn't needed and should have been eliminated. The reason the taxpayers do not want nepotism is because we know that no matter how bad they are at their job, they can never be fired. And the employee knows that and they perform accordingly. Friends and family of politicians should be banned from taxpayer funded jobs. If you don't like that, don't run for office. Tough darts. There are plenty of people not related to the CE who are perfectly qualified to do this job and probably for a lot less taxpayer money.
    excellent!
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    The way this game is being played (and there was an actual quote contained in the Buffalo News article) that with Rob Poloncarz (Rob?...what a fitting name) in the position Before the actual posting, exam and interviews; HE WILL BE GAINING, wait for it - Experience rendering him a pretty good candidate above anyone else applying for the job. Who can beat the guy with the actual water authority experience? Hmm, Can you say "unfair advantage?"

    As wnyerlaughs said: MP= fraud

    This stinks so bad, I'm going to go back to calling him "Dark Colonparts"
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    Quote Originally Posted by buffy View Post
    This stinks so bad, I'm going to go back to calling him "Dark Colonparts"
    wow and from you Buffy (the dignified one around here) that is saying a ton!
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    BUFFALO, N.Y. - 2 On Your Side has learned that the Erie County Water Authority hired the future sister-in-law of Erie County Republican Nick Langworthy to a good paying job, the latest in a long history of the authority hiring people with political ties.

    When we sat down with the three Water Authority commissioners just two weeks ago, they said they were proud of changes they had been making to the authority's free spending, high salaried ways.

    They pointed out they had entered into a new less costly lease for their headquarters at the Ellicott Square, had cut two six figure jobs, and were taking steps to better use the properties it owned.




    Looks like the Repubs got their payback, just coincidence I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    How many chefs do you know? How many executive chefs who ran a Disney operation do you know? Do you not realize that part of a chef's job is to handle - on a daily basis - contractual matters pertaining to procurement and disposal of food, hiring & firing of workers, coordinating the entire kitchen/BOH operation, and handling purveyor contracts? Now assume you do it for a kitchen that essentially puts on a 12 hour-long banquet every day. Yeah, I'm sure he's just a dope who makes subs.
    I know more than 5 or so people who are either chefs or restaurant owners.

    So when was he a chef for the wegmans?

    Go to linkedin. Go look who they hire as "executive chefs". When was he a chef at wegmans and for how long? Was he employed until very recently because he doesn't show up. Let our community see the resume.

    http://www.linkedin.com/search/fpsea...ey=fps_results

    http://ediblebuffalo.wordpress.com/2...chefs-compete/

    So Alan which Wegmans was robb a "chef" for and for how long?

    Alan go read this:

    http://www.speakupwny.com/forums/sho...l=1#post995871

    http://www.speakupwny.com/forums/sho...l=1#post995872

    Why did mark bother putting that on his campaign site?

    Here is my point.

    I find it odd that that a group of people who are paid what they are came up with this hire.

    The executive Director's salarywhich doesn't include what we pay them for their health care/pension cost...

    Annual $164,848 2010
    Annual $140,824 2009
    Annual $154,795 2008

    So the best pick for a "contract monitor" is someone who is a "chef". Do you think out of the pool of qualified people in Erie County someone with real experience and/or schooling as a "contract monitor" would be hired?
    The best this guy could do is hire a "chef" versus anyone else who is more qualified for the position.

    Be honest Alan, if Chris Collin's brother was hired while he was County Exec at the water authority you would be all over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Broughton View Post
    Res, you can see he went and talked with Poloncarz - getting their lingo down now. After all he is one of his unofficial spokesmen no?
    Go read Mark's campaign website. Apparently he wasn't referring to himself. I guess just save this data when he runs for office again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by equinox View Post
    Don't you understand that none of that matters? This is nepotism and it is always wrong in the public sector. That is especially true in this area that has a long history of wasting taxpayers money and inefficient, bloated government. Poloncarz' position was vacant for some time which means it wasn't needed and should have been eliminated. The reason the taxpayers do not want nepotism is because we know that no matter how bad they are at their job, they can never be fired. And the employee knows that and they perform accordingly. Friends and family of politicians should be banned from taxpayer funded jobs. If you don't like that, don't run for office. Tough darts. There are plenty of people not related to the CE who are perfectly qualified to do this job and probably for a lot less taxpayer money.
    Alan jumped the shark as soon as he compared Robb Poloncarz to the head chef at Disney.

    Shows you how much of a hypocrite Alan is. If Chris's brother was hired by any government department Alan would have been all over it. Well just like mark was on his campaign website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roman View Post
    BUFFALO, N.Y. - 2 On Your Side has learned that the Erie County Water Authority hired the future sister-in-law of Erie County Republican Nick Langworthy to a good paying job, the latest in a long history of the authority hiring people with political ties.

    When we sat down with the three Water Authority commissioners just two weeks ago, they said they were proud of changes they had been making to the authority's free spending, high salaried ways.

    They pointed out they had entered into a new less costly lease for their headquarters at the Ellicott Square, had cut two six figure jobs, and were taking steps to better use the properties it owned.




    Looks like the Repubs got their payback, just coincidence I'm sure.
    They need to go. Go look the administration salaries on seethroughny.org.

    If this is the best decision for a hire they could make it show's you our community's best interest is not being considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roman View Post
    They pointed out they had entered into a new less costly lease for their headquarters at the Ellicott Square
    Looks like the Repubs got their payback, just coincidence I'm sure.
    give us a break! The ONLY reason they have a new lease somewhere else is retailiation against Carl Paladino - end of story. And, Dan, we don't care which party is doing it- Our disgust is bi-partisan, enough with the waste of our tax dollars, enough with the games! Come on New York, the net taxpayers are leaving everyday...as the song goes "It's up to you, New York!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    How many chefs do you know? How many executive chefs who ran a Disney operation do you know? Do you not realize that part of a chef's job is to handle - on a daily basis - contractual matters pertaining to procurement and disposal of food, hiring & firing of workers, coordinating the entire kitchen/BOH operation, and handling purveyor contracts? Now assume you do it for a kitchen that essentially puts on a 12 hour-long banquet every day. Yeah, I'm sure he's just a dope who makes subs.
    Good afternoon BP. For someone usually so thorough, im surprised you stepped up to the plate here with a pretty big swing and a miss.

    I'll refrain from any jokes on this, as it's just too easy.

    but...you kind of set me up with a softball, right down the middle, with bases loaded..sooo

    BATTERRRRR UUUUUPPPPP !

    below is the job posting for the highest level CHEF in Wegmans. With all due respect to wegmans (a great company, great to their empoyees, and great to their customers), I just can't seem to find the word "contract" or any variation. Some help please?

    .......

    Executive Chef / Store Chef

    In the role of Executive or Store Chef, you will oversee the Prepared Foods area and bring to life the Wegmans culinary vision throughout the entire store. You will be given the opportunity to display your culinary training, experience and talent in a food-focused environment; promoting a focus not only on great tasting prepared foods but on educating customers and team members and providing incredible customer service.


    What abilities I must bring to the table to be considered:

    In addition to Incredible Customer Service, successful applicants will possess one or more of the following:
    •Experience working a variety of positions in multi-faceted food service facilities and venues, including restaurants, hotels, country clubs, conference centers, casinos, theme parks, etc.
    •Experience in food service profit & loss management
    •Managerial/ supervisory experience including but not limited to, interviewing, selection, disciplinary action, employee development, managing financials and supervising management
    •Experience in food service/ preparation
    •Associates or Bachelors degree in Culinary Arts
    •Diverse culinary experience, including working with a variety of food in a variety of regions and/ or cultures

    Qualifications

    Work Environment:
    •Work involves continuous interaction with customers and co-workers in a fast-paced environment
    •Typical motions include repetitive hand and arm movements, bending and reaching
    •Responsible for moving and lifting an average of 5 – 20 pounds with a maximum weight lifted of 50 pounds rarely
    •May be exposed to various allergens and work environments, including temperature changes
    •Tasks will be performed using and in the proximity of coolers, ovens, stoves and other hot equipment; cooking and kitchen utensils and equipment
    •Will be required to spend the majority of time on his or her feet and stand or walk without a break for up to 4 hours

    ---------------------------------------------------END-------------------------------------------------------------------

    I'll let the rest of the folks feed on this, and how the above duties may relate to rob Poloncarz's new job as a "contract monitor". Its just WAY too loaded with comic possibilities, so have at it folks. Enjoy.!

    Asdie from the humor, of course, i'm curious: was he drving by the ECWA one day and said "dammnit..i wanna be a contract monitor at ECWA..and TODAY is the day.!" Did he do like Brother Brad did in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, and suddenly toss his chef hat out the car window, and bang a hard turn into the ECWA parking lot ..run inside..and say "Hey DONT let me see a job positing..im feeling inspired here..im a chef today, but I think i know ALL the right words to put on a job application for a job tha tisnt posted..that technically, i woldnt even KNOW about if it were not for soem kind of divine (oops..strike that..dem party platform no longer acknowledges God),..and by some twist of fate..gets all the words right..to be the ONLY candidate with the skills needed for a non-posted job.

    It's truly a miracle.!

    BP,..YOU are the one that said "im sure hes just a dope that make subs".

    the general public is A) simply questoining his credentials..and B) wondering how he is the only living person in all of WNY that knew of a non-posted job of "contract monitor". did he just write in, "contract monitor" or did some insider coach him what to put on the application, including the title of the job.?

    Or..more likely, Robb Poloncarz has a twitter feed of "Erie County non-posted , non public jobs that need chef skills"

    Of course, maybe RP worked at some other level within Weggies, and maybe I cut/pasted the wrong chef job, but I doubt it.

    Prove me wrong BP? Please..i'd like ot believe that our taxpayer are being well -served.

    point aside: for what its worth. Langworthy's action was also despicable and an insult to taxpayers. Something stijkns..and it smells like collusion. No excuses for NL. However, County Exec MP, by virtue of his "taxpayer watchdog" role, is the worse offender here..and he should not have let it happen. He can still tell his brother to "back off this job..its not right".

    Enjoy that job posting though. Any former ECWA contract monitors want to be a chef? It looks like the skill sets are interchangeable!

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    WNYerlaugns....

    Go read this page

    http://markpoloncarz.com/protect-the-taxpayer/


    and this one..

    http://markpoloncarz.com/work-for-you/


    Go read his words about patronage. I'm surprised it didn't apply to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wnyerlaughs View Post
    Good afternoon BP. For someone usually so thorough, im surprised you stepped up to the plate here with a pretty big swing and a miss.

    I'll refrain from any jokes on this, as it's just too easy.

    but...you kind of set me up with a softball, right down the middle, with bases loaded..sooo

    BATTERRRRR UUUUUPPPPP !

    below is the job posting for the highest level CHEF in Wegmans. With all due respect to wegmans (a great company, great to their empoyees, and great to their customers), I just can't seem to find the word "contract" or any variation. Some help please?

    .......

    Executive Chef / Store Chef

    In the role of Executive or Store Chef, you will oversee the Prepared Foods area and bring to life the Wegmans culinary vision throughout the entire store. You will be given the opportunity to display your culinary training, experience and talent in a food-focused environment; promoting a focus not only on great tasting prepared foods but on educating customers and team members and providing incredible customer service.


    What abilities I must bring to the table to be considered:

    In addition to Incredible Customer Service, successful applicants will possess one or more of the following:
    •Experience working a variety of positions in multi-faceted food service facilities and venues, including restaurants, hotels, country clubs, conference centers, casinos, theme parks, etc.
    •Experience in food service profit & loss management
    •Managerial/ supervisory experience including but not limited to, interviewing, selection, disciplinary action, employee development, managing financials and supervising management
    •Experience in food service/ preparation
    •Associates or Bachelors degree in Culinary Arts
    •Diverse culinary experience, including working with a variety of food in a variety of regions and/ or cultures

    Qualifications

    Work Environment:
    •Work involves continuous interaction with customers and co-workers in a fast-paced environment
    •Typical motions include repetitive hand and arm movements, bending and reaching
    •Responsible for moving and lifting an average of 5 – 20 pounds with a maximum weight lifted of 50 pounds rarely
    •May be exposed to various allergens and work environments, including temperature changes
    •Tasks will be performed using and in the proximity of coolers, ovens, stoves and other hot equipment; cooking and kitchen utensils and equipment
    •Will be required to spend the majority of time on his or her feet and stand or walk without a break for up to 4 hours

    ---------------------------------------------------END-------------------------------------------------------------------

    I'll let the rest of the folks feed on this, and how the above duties may relate to rob Poloncarz's new job as a "contract monitor". Its just WAY too loaded with comic possibilities, so have at it folks. Enjoy.!

    Asdie from the humor, of course, i'm curious: was he drving by the ECWA one day and said "dammnit..i wanna be a contract monitor at ECWA..and TODAY is the day.!" Did he do like Brother Brad did in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, and suddenly toss his chef hat out the car window, and bang a hard turn into the ECWA parking lot ..run inside..and say "Hey DONT let me see a job positing..im feeling inspired here..im a chef today, but I think i know ALL the right words to put on a job application for a job tha tisnt posted..that technically, i woldnt even KNOW about if it were not for soem kind of divine (oops..strike that..dem party platform no longer acknowledges God),..and by some twist of fate..gets all the words right..to be the ONLY candidate with the skills needed for a non-posted job.

    It's truly a miracle.!

    BP,..YOU are the one that said "im sure hes just a dope that make subs".

    the general public is A) simply questoining his credentials..and B) wondering how he is the only living person in all of WNY that knew of a non-posted job of "contract monitor". did he just write in, "contract monitor" or did some insider coach him what to put on the application, including the title of the job.?

    Or..more likely, Robb Poloncarz has a twitter feed of "Erie County non-posted , non public jobs that need chef skills"

    Of course, maybe RP worked at some other level within Weggies, and maybe I cut/pasted the wrong chef job, but I doubt it.

    Prove me wrong BP? Please..i'd like ot believe that our taxpayer are being well -served.

    point aside: for what its worth. Langworthy's action was also despicable and an insult to taxpayers. Something stijkns..and it smells like collusion. No excuses for NL. However, County Exec MP, by virtue of his "taxpayer watchdog" role, is the worse offender here..and he should not have let it happen. He can still tell his brother to "back off this job..its not right".

    Enjoy that job posting though. Any former ECWA contract monitors want to be a chef? It looks like the skill sets are interchangeable!
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