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    Is this another Amway?

    This is something really interesting that I found. I don't know it is connected but here's what I found.

    Jim O., can you elaborate what I found on this "freebuffalo.com"?

    http://freebuffalo.com/ click on "enter"

    Within the Western New York area live about one million people who are as competitive, compassionate and capable as any group of people in the world Western New Yorkers are a resilient bunch, but we have to help ourselves and not depend on government to improve our lives. Aren't you tired of people telling you your taxes are going up? Have you had enough hearing how bad the Buffalo city schools have become? Don't you shake your head at the lack of creativity and ambition of our local leaders? So what are you doing about it? The people running the local political system must change, but to help make that change, you must become stronger financially... and the only way to do that is to use our free enterprise system.

    To Improve Your Financial Situation Please Click Here

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    Can you identify with any of the following statements?


    It seems my taxes... sales tax, income tax, property tax, school tax... keep going up!
    My junior in high school is thinking about college... how will I ever afford that?
    I'd like to send my kids to better schools... but there's no way I can afford the $5,000 to $12,000 tuition!
    I've refinanced my house twenty times already... where can I get the cash for an anniversary gift? Birthday gift? Graduation gift? Vacation... hah... what's that?
    My credit card bills will never stop because I can't seem to pay much more than the minimum! And I keep getting more credit card offers!
    My car needs a new muffler... my teenager wants a car!
    My wife is losing her job... my husband's company is moving out of WNY
    My roof is leaking; the dryer just died and the dog has to go to the vet!
    Bottom Line: There's just too much month at the end of the money.

    Are You Tired Yet?
    Continue (a link)

    (next page) So What Can You Do?

    Plenty!

    Looking to Change The Financial Possibilities in Your Life?

    If your major worry is working in a job you hate, living month to month to pay the bills, or looking for a way to create another income, what follows on the next few pages may be for you. On the other hand, if you don't like to work, learn new things, or don't have any strong feelings about helping yourself and others in our area, we wish you the best.

    Join us at FreeBuffalo.com to make a difference in the economic situation of thousands of Western New Yorkers... our small group has found several easy-to-afford business opportunities (minimum capital needed is ambition and desire) for those who are tired of being stuck in 'neutral'. If you tired of not being able to afford a nice vacation, afford a nice restaurant occasionally (and in WNY we have some of the best choices of restaurants in the country!), tired of worrying about losing your job to some outsourcing company in India (or closing down) and exhausted because you have few financial upsides, open your mind and read on. Don't make enough money? Thinking you may lose your job? Need a change in your life? Ready to broaden your horizons? If you're trainable and easy to work with... read on.

    We are looking for people who are ambitious and hard-working, honest and able to communicate and not afraid to roll up their sleeves to change their lives and their neighbors lives.

    Please Continue (another link)

    If You Are Looking to Change Things Politically...
    Don't like the taxes we pay? Suddenly realize that our elected officials have been asleep at the wheel? Are you complaining continuously about how Buffalo and Erie County have no future because of politics, bad decisions, bad luck, bad weather? If you're looking to participate in changing the way Erie County and Buffalo do business... visit www.freebuffalo.org (this is the group you have seen on television during the first part of March, 2005 as the Erie County budget process became more and more unglued). FreeBuffalo.com has no direct affiliation with freebuffalo.org and I am not endorsing nor disagreeing with their views.
    (next page IE-Please Continue (another link) ) FreeBuffalo is looking for a core group of people who have the following characteristics...

    You are a nice person (no other way to say it... we don't want to work with jerks)
    You are committed when you find something you enjoy (and when you say you'll do something, you stick to it)
    You are ambitious and don't mind rolling up your sleeves and WORK (if you're lazy or looking for a money tree... look elsewhere)
    You have the ability to learn new things (and the desire to teach others as well, since every business is a give and take)
    You don't think you have ALL the answers (because we don't either... we learn from each other)
    You know that to own a business you must invest in it (it takes money... and not much... to make money)
    You can speak to someone face-to-face, on the phone, and can think (business will force you to do that)
    You are relatively comfortable with a computer (you can go to the web and send email)
    You are relentless and can get up after you've taken a fall (it's amazing how many people fall over from a slight breeze!)
    You absolutely MUST change your current situation (nothing will get in your way)

    If this describes you and you're ready to learn more, then

    click here

    (next page)FreeBuffalo is a group of people from all over Western New York with connections to the rest of the world. We are offering an environment rich in opportunities for those who are willing to open their minds and put in whatever effort they can... from 2 hours per week to 20 hours per week. We are not offering jobs... we are offering two specific, potentially life-changing business opportunities. Below are business descriptions for each opportunity. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions (Charlie d'Estries, furlough@adelphia.net or 716-662-4121).



    Opportunity #1

    Think about this: Today, you read about people taking steroids just to stay competitive on a baseball field... and it's not just professional athletes, but high school students as well! It seems every other person out there is on Prozac or Viagra... or both. People are overworked and mentally tired and pumping themselves full of stimulants just to stay awake... like caffeine, Red Bull, ephedrine, Ma Huang and amphetamines.

    What if there was a way to provide 30% more energy and increased stamina without anything entering your body? What if children and the elderly could benefit, as well as world-class, professional athletes and weekend warriors? And what if this technology was just the beginning?

    Know someone who needs more energy and stamina, but hates taking more caffeine, stimulants, or other drugs to give them that extra oomph? … like serious athletes, people on their feet all day and those who need to concentrate at night after a full day of work and kids? Then learn about a fascinating new product and technology… imagine placing a couple of band-aid type patches on your body to improve your day…nothing enters the body… no caffeine, no drugs, no chemicals, no stimulants, no sugar, no ephedrine…nothing! Clinical studies prove efficacy… the product sounds like science fiction… but groups like the Stanford Swim Team (Coach Richard Quick also coached the Olympic swimmers in Athens), National Football League and dozens of LPGA golfers know they work. You must pay attention to this!

    For more information on this opportunity, please click here



    Opportunity #2

    This opportunity looks at solutions to two (2) problems that exist: one you are very aware of and the other a silent killer. Either one is a business in itself and both tremendous opportunities.

    How much did it cost you to fill your gas tank today? The average price (nationally) for a gallon of regular gasoline today is about $2.13; this means you're spending about $30 to fill an average sized gas tank. While many of us are concerned about the health and environmental impact of our driving-habits, just as many are concerned about what driving does to our pocketbooks. Over the last few years gas-guzzling SUVs have become the common sight on our roads. At the same time oil-prices have skyrocketed, making driving a very expensive necessity.

    What if there was a product that saved 10% to 15% on your gas mileage? And what if the same product resulted in cleaner burning fuels resulting in increased power and less pollution? If this product were well priced and easy to install, would you be interested? You bet.

    The product is a pair of peel-and-stick chips that are placed underneath your gas tank. From 18-wheelers to RVs to SUVs and everyday cars gas mileage is improved and people save money. How many dealer and distributors do you think you could sign up with this product in Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US?

    Are you aware your cell phone may be killing you slowly? Picture a restaurant in 1947, everyone is smoking, and I announce that cigarette smoking is killing them slowly… would they have listened? Many would have ignored me; but more than a few would have wondered because it made sense. The same scenario can be said for other things we missed like asbestos.

    It's happening again!

    Electro Magnetic Frequencies (EMF) are odorless, tasteless, invisible pollutants. They are emitted from everyday devices like cell phones, home cordless phones, motor vehicles, microwave ovens… the list is endless. This opportunity provides a solution to combat a growing problem called Electro Pollution, which is known to present a health hazard. A decade of research supports the facts that EMFs are linked to mild heath concerns like fatigue and tension to much deadlier disease states like cancer and Alzheimer's disease. Lots of data shows people using cellphones are subjecting themselves to massive amounts of electromagnetic radiation… kinda like strapping a microwave oven to your ear… When you think about it, it makes sense! If you do nothing with this opportunity, or nothing for yourself, at least protect your children as their skulls are much thinner than adults and brain cancer is dramatically on the rise... so I’m sounding the alarm.

    Imagine a peel-and-stick chip that is placed on the back of your cellphone to prevent EMF from affecting your head and ear. It's an inexpensive way to protect yourself and your family. Other products in this line also protect against other EMF-emitting appliances such as microwave ovens, radios, cordless phones, etc. This is a great distributor setup; how many distributors can you set up in thousands of locations? Great retail and networking opportunity!

    For more information on this opportunity, please click here

    http://freebuffalo.com/Opportunity%20Number%20Two.htm

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    I can't comment on freebuffalo.com as I have no connection with that site. Our group is freebuffalo.org.

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    I just wondered about this because the message boards has 'your' forum listed as "freebuffalo.com".

    FreeBuffalo.com has no direct affiliation with freebuffalo.org and I am not endorsing nor disagreeing with their views.
    BUT, there is an affiliation to freebuffalo.org in a few places on freebuffalo.com to link to freebuffalo.org

    IE-
    If You Are Looking to Change Things Politically...
    Don't like the taxes we pay? Suddenly realize that our elected officials have been asleep at the wheel? Are you complaining continuously about how Buffalo and Erie County have no future because of politics, bad decisions, bad luck, bad weather? If you're looking to participate in changing the way Erie County and Buffalo do business... visit www.freebuffalo.org (this is the group you have seen on television during the first part of March, 2005 as the Erie County budget process became more and more unglued).
    But this is what freebuffalo.com says:

    Within the Western New York area live about one million people who are as competitive, compassionate and capable as any group of people in the world Western New Yorkers are a resilient bunch, but we have to help ourselves and not depend on government to improve our lives. Aren't you tired of people telling you your taxes are going up? Have you had enough hearing how bad the Buffalo city schools have become? Don't you shake your head at the lack of creativity and ambition of our local leaders? So what are you doing about it? The people running the local political system must change, but to help make that change, you must become stronger financially... and the only way to do that is to use our free enterprise system.
    What gives?

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    I can't comment on freebuffalo.com as I have no connection with that site. Our group is freebuffalo.org

    You say you have no 'connection' to that site, but it sure sounds like they have a 'connection' with your site.

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    According to Register.com, FreeBuffalo.COM is registered someone in Orchard Park. They registered the domain in 2003.

    My hunch would be that there's no connection, but that the .COM people are now trying to reap the benefits of a lot of mistaken hits.

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    Not matter what it is, it is confusing.

    Why hasn't the (dot) ORG people said anything about it being listed as (dot) COM in the "freebuffalo" forum board here (on speakup)?

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    Nightowl, why don't you just tie JO to a chair and hold him underwater for a few minutes to see if he lives? Or maybe we should just burn the witches?

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    Is there something wrong with pointing out/asking that the website FreeBuffalo.COM is listed on the speakup boards?

    FreeBuffalo.COM is obviously a Pyramid Scheme but there would be a high amount of confusion to FreeBuffalo.ORG if the (dot) COM is being 'promoted' here instead, but just thinking we're really talking about the (dot) ORG site.

    BTW- I didn't say anything against Jim O. on this, I asked why the two things sounds so similar or that it would appear they are connected but I didn't accuse anyone of anything.

    Someone told me that iof you don't know something then to ask, well that's all I did.

    Jim O., can you elaborate what I found on this "freebuffalo.com"?
    What gives?
    Why hasn't the (dot) ORG people said anything about it being listed as (dot) COM in the "freebuffalo" forum board here (on speakup)?
    Nightowl, why don't you just tie JO to a chair and hold him underwater for a few minutes to see if he lives? Or maybe we should just burn the witches?

    To go on the record, I have no intentions of doing as you asked (IE-"why don't you just").

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    Jim is freebuffalo.org NOT freebuffalo.com

    Not matter what it is, it is confusing.

    Why hasn't the (dot) ORG people said anything about it being listed as (dot) COM in the "freebuffalo" forum board here (on speakup)?
    There is no connection. I could of swore I fixed the forum header when someone mentioned it was .org not .com. Why didn't you ask that question yourself versus trying to cast a negative light on both groups versus just one?

    Is there something wrong with pointing out/asking that the website FreeBuffalo.COM is listed on the speakup boards?
    There is when it looks like someone is trying to cast a negative light on one group versus just asking if there's a mistake on the forum name.

    There is NO connection and don't try to argue about it for the sake of arguing that there is. Its two different people and this show you why you should pick your domain names carefully. I had the wrong domain name in the forum title. It's corrected now.

    If you want to talk about freebuffalo.com go ahead.

    This thread is closed.

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