Reply With QuoteAnyone can use the AED. It's very user friendly.Originally Posted by CAugust
No, I am a father of two. Doesn't change the argument. To suggest that all teachers be trained in CPR because ONE CHILD might be stricken with a heart condition is akin to saying every teacher should be trained and equipped with a firearm because once last year there was a school shooting.
b.b.
Anyone can use the AED. It's very user friendly.
First Amendment rights are like muscles, if you don't exercise them they will atrophy.
People that are CPR certified are covered under the Good Samaritan law as well.
Well, Mesue, the Good Samaritan laws cover everybody. Not everyone that tries to help is CPR certified. Those laws were put into place to prevent good people from being screwed over by selfish, greedy, despicable human beings who would stop at nothing to sue the person who tried to help for everything they possibly could.
I dunno about anyone else, but if someone close to me died, I would find some comfort in knowing someone was there trying to save them. At least they didn't die alone.
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yes, I know
First Amendment rights are like muscles, if you don't exercise them they will atrophy.
Yes, teachers are protected by them. Everybody is. Good samaritans are "first responders."
They are in place until the medical personnel arrive and take over.
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Sorry i read it wrong...
totally voluntary capacity (i.e. without any compensation and/or outside of any job requirements), the Good Samaritan Law would apply
http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/sss/Health...andanswers.htm
You make a good point. The common ground would be having more than 1 or 2 staff in the building trained.
If you have several people trained, then you can be assured someone will be there.
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the problem is that those one or two might not be there - while I understand your thinking and others - it just doesnt make any sense to me to have people in a building responsible for hundreds if not over 1,000 students plus staff and only have 1 or 2 trained - I just dont buy it. I am responsible for 12 girls on an outing - but even if my troop had 2, I would have to be trained in cpr and first aid.
as far as the defib being user friendly yes i agree, but if you arent trained, i would be surprised anyone would think to open it and use it - its actually easier imho than cpr - I stand firm on this one and its just my opinion that all teachers should be required by the district to have the training - paid for by the district - its three hours long, surely it could fit into one half day? and really, isnt it a handy thing to have under your belt anyway???????
Re read my post. I said several should be trained, not one or 2.
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Can you certify in CPR off three hours. My agency trained us in CPR recently, supposed to get the Red Cross cards and all. Even then they shortened a 16 or 24 hour certificate course to 8.
Three just doesn't seem long enough to be meaningful.
b.b.
Its meaningful enough to remember what you need to remember - all the other stuff is fluff and gets forgotten - 30/2 you can remember.....and that is what counts... do something or do nothing, if you do something at least you tried, do nothing and they die........
I had red cross training and will get a red cross card - 3 hours it took
youre right - i think i was referring to the one or two that need to have it per building - but I might be wrong - the nurse and the pe teacher? but I also think you said that the pe teacher does NOT have to have it? I will also check into that - you would know better than I!!!!!!! that is just what I was told previously
Teachers are protected under the GSL if its not in there job requirement. If your job requires you to be trained example nurse, coaches and gym teachers then you aren't covered by it. It just depends what your job description is.
I am ryans dad!!!! I want to set the record straight my son had no heart condition!!!!! My son played baseball, football, soccer, hunted with me. He also drove a quad split firewood and many other things. It has been almost 6 years since my son passed and we continue to teach CPR and AED to the community. I believe every person should learn CPR.
The question is, why should you learn CPR? We have taught thousands of people CPR over the years. Some of these people have saved lives in the community and also there loved ones! Whether its a teacher or someone else spend the 3 hours a year to learn. In alot of these cases, what you learn is what you are going to use on people you care about. Understand this sometimes people don't make it but would you rather try or stand around and wait for help to show up before anything is done. Think about this, depending where you live its takes time for the fire companies or EMTs to arrive at your house. If you are doing CPR on this person when help arrives the EMTs or fire companies can start doing there job right away. If you stand around and wait for them to show up they are just dying. The organs, brain and heart are shutting down. The EMTs are told you give two minutes of care before they start anything else to prime the heart. I have been told that every minute that passes is a 10 percent less chance that they can be saved. The real question isn't why would you learn CPR and AED use but WHY WOULDN'T YOU!!!
The GSL covers people that have been trained in first aid CPR and AED use if they have been trained to do it. You cant go beyond the scope of your training. A nurse at work has been trained as part of her job to do it not covered by the GSL. When outside of work it is her choice if she wants to and is covered at that time by GSL.
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