View Poll Results: Which "business" is run worse?

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    Which "business" is run worse?

    hmm..

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    I'm gonna think about this one. They are basically the same but two difference scenarios acutally.

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    It is a difficult decision, since the main purpose of each is to suck as much money out of the public as possible. Both try to make you think you're getting a lot of value for what you're paying. Both are good at avoiding answering difficult questions. However, when it comes down to it, Adelphia we have some control over and Erie County... not so much. So, I'm going to have to vote Erie County.

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    Adelphia - a few crackpots at the top of the chain made a ton of people lose a ton of money

    Erie County - a few crackpots at the top of the chain made a ton of people lose a ton of money

    At least Erie County has the medicaid excuse

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    We are conditioned to believe that we need cable, a cell phone, a computer, et al. All really a waste for most people. I had rabbit ears on my TV and Fox, PBS and the big three were plenty. One shouldn't be watching as much TV as the average American,anyways. Cable is like going to Baskin Robbins and paying for all the flavors at once, but you can only eat one at a time. *%$#! Adelphia. and %$#! Verizon. You just need air, water, food and a library card to have it all. Shelter helps, too.

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    Both organizations mask corruption with incompetance, but we have always expected that from Government on all levels, and now this is expected in business.

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    Flawed but I shall entertain the notion.

    Adelphia is not based in NYS. Since Adelphia is country wide comparing that company only to how Erie County Governement is ran is not a fair poll. If Adelphia was only NYS based, they would have been out of business much quicker thus having less of an impact on the consumers. For this reason, I have to go with Erie county. Erie County continues to suck money with no end in sight.


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    Speaking of Adelphia, now the company is advertising up to 4mb Internet speed. Oh I feel sorry for the technology challenged. You see. Adelphia is one big shared network system. In order to differentiate who gets a higher speed you need to have a packet prioritization system invoked. That means the people who do not pay for the 4mb service will get bumped to the bottom of the packet priority. In short you will see a decrease in performance.
    No it is not up to he cable modem that determines the speed either. I love it when companies think all their customers are blind fools..... That is until I get on the phone with them. Then they have a bad hair day.

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    As long as most of their customer's are stupid, that's all that matters. However, if you do know IT, then the rep on the phone can't field your inquiries anyways. Here's a did you know: There is no such thing as a cable modem- or a dsl modem. A modem is short for modulator-demodulator which means digital info retrieved from the internet is modulated into analog (phone line-voice frequency 0-4 kHz) then back to digital so your pc can underestand.
    Which makes the whole process slow; affectionately known as dialup

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    Originally posted by stevenco
    As long as most of their customer's are stupid, that's all that matters. However, if you do know IT, then the rep on the phone can't field your inquiries anyways. Here's a did you know: There is no such thing as a cable modem- or a dsl modem. A modem is short for modulator-demodulator which means digital info retrieved from the internet is modulated into analog (phone line-voice frequency 0-4 kHz) then back to digital so your pc can underestand.
    Which makes the whole process slow; affectionately known as dialup

    Yes I did know that. The cable company calls them cable modems but you are correct. They are not the same as a MOdulation/DEModulation device per say....
    here ya go:

    "The fact that the word "modem" is used to describe this device can be a little misleading only in that it conjures up images of a typical telephone dial-up modem. Yes, it is a modem in the true sense of the word since it MOdulates and DEModulates signals. But the similarity ends there because cable modems are practically an order of magnitude more complicated than their telephone counterparts. Cable modems can be part modem, part tuner, part encryption/decryption device, part bridge, part router, part network interface card, part SNMP agent, and part Ethernet hub. Typically, a cable modem sends and receives data in two slightly different fashions. In the downstream direction, the digital data is modulated and then placed on a typical 6 MHz television channel, somewhere between 50 MHz and 750 MHz. Currently, 64 QAM is the preferred downstream modulation technique, offering up to 27 Mbps per 6 MHz channel. This signal can be placed in a 6 MHz channel adjacent to TV signals on either side without disturbing the cable television video signals.



    The upstream channel is more tricky. Typically, in a two-way activated cable network, the upstream (also known as the reverse path) is transmitted between 5 and 42 MHz.
    This tends to be a noisy environment, with RF interference and impulse noise. Additionally, interference is easily introduced in the home, due to loose connectors or poor cabling. Since cable networks are tree and branch networks, all this noise gets added together as the signals travel upstream, combining and increasing. Due to this problem, most manufacturers use QPSK or a similar modulation scheme in the upstream direction, because QPSK is more robust scheme than higher order modulation techniques in a noisy environment. The drawback is that QPSK is "slower" than QAM
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    Hope that helps.


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    Originally posted by stevenco
    As long as most of their customer's are stupid, that's all that matters. However, if you do know IT, then the rep on the phone can't field your inquiries anyways. Here's a did you know: There is no such thing as a cable modem- or a dsl modem. A modem is short for modulator-demodulator which means digital info retrieved from the internet is modulated into analog (phone line-voice frequency 0-4 kHz) then back to digital so your pc can underestand.
    Which makes the whole process slow; affectionately known as dialup
    They really are not modems they are routers.

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    Re: Which "business" is run worse?

    Originally posted by IsOurGov.Dum

    Our gov aint dum; it's just deaf
    hmm..

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    Our gov aint dum; it's just deaf

    Well it's good that they still have their sight.

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    ..even if they have no forsight or vision

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    They are SEVERAL DEVICES in one plastic housing.

    There is the ethernet router/firewall functionality and the uplink port is then connected to the "modem" part, which converts the ethernet signal to a modulated analog signal that is transmitted over cable/phone lines.

    The "quality of service" functionality is acheived by checksum algorithyms and resending of packets of data that were corrupted by faulty analog transmission/interferance along the way...

    I hope THAT clears thing up.
    Data is not the plural of Anecdote.

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