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    The circuit breaker as proposed by NYSUT appears to be just another tax on higher wage earners.

    Another reason for higher income folks and those people that aspire to higher income to leave.


    Why isn't $14,800.00 per pupil not enough to educate to high standards in NY.

    NYSUT just doesn't get it. The broken system only works for them.
    Has anyone made a list of the 50 states to compare spending per kid? Just too see where $14,800 falls into place for other public school systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident
    Has anyone made a list of the 50 states to compare spending per kid? Just too see where $14,800 falls into place for other public school systems.
    http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/...ys/006685.html

    National Spending Per Student Rises to $8,287

    U.S. public school districts spent an average of $8,287 per student in 2004, up from the previous year’s total of $8,019. In all, public elementary and secondary education received $462.7 billion from federal, state and local sources in 2004, up 5.1 percent from 2003.

    Findings from the 2004 Annual Survey of Local Government Finances – School Systems show that New Jersey spent $12,981 per student in 2004 -- the most among states and state equivalents -- the U.S. Census Bureau reported today. Utah, at $5,008, spent the least per student.

    New York ($12,930) and the District of Columbia ($12,801) were second and third in spending per student. Vermont ($11,128) and Connecticut ($10,788) rounded out the top five. Along with Utah, Idaho ($6,028), Arizona ($6,036), Oklahoma ($6,176) and Mississippi ($6,237) comprised the lowest five in money spent per student.

    The state governments contributed the greatest share of public elementary and secondary school funding at $218.1 billion. In 2004, state governments contributed 47.1 percent of school funding, down from 49.0 percent in 2003. Local sources contributed 43.9 percent at $203.3 billion. The federal government’s share, which came to $41.3 billion in 2004, rose from 8.4 to 8.9 percent.

    Other findings:

    Public school systems spent $472.3 billion, up 4.1 percent from 2003. Spending on elementary-secondary instruction increased from $236.0 billion in 2003 to $245.2 billion in 2004. About $138.5 billion was spent on services that support elementary-secondary instruction, and $52.3 billion was spent on capital outlay.

    Instructional salaries totaled $170.6 billion in 2004, up 2.2 percent from 2003.
    The tabulations contain data on revenues, expenditures, debt and assets for all individual public elementary and secondary school systems.


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    The data are not subject to sampling error, but are subject to possible measurement error and processing errors.
    This info is from 2004. I don't know if anyone has more current data

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    http://www.ppinys.org/reports/jtf/pupilspending.htm

    This shows NY as number 1 in 2005. Has listing of each state.

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    this says NYS is 6th per capita:

    http://www.ppinys.org/reports/jtf/educationspending.htm

    One thing to consider too is NYC and the Big 5 (City schools) costs a ton of money per pupil more compared to the suburbs which raises the amount per pupil spending for the State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabapples
    this says NYS is 6th per capita:

    http://www.ppinys.org/reports/jtf/educationspending.htm

    One thing to consider too is NYC and the Big 5 (City schools) costs a ton of money per pupil more compared to the suburbs which raises the amount per pupil spending for the State.
    Should NY get a "pass" on some of it's cost per student because of NYC? Is that what you are saying?
    I would think that might be true of other states with big cities too? Chicago? Atlanta? Boston? Los Angeles? Dallas?

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    This is the local 2004-2005 costs per pupil:



    Lackawanna surpasses the state average.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie
    Should NY get a "pass" on some of it's cost per student because of NYC? Is that what you are saying?
    I would think that might be true of other states with big cities too? Chicago? Atlanta? Boston? Los Angeles? Dallas?
    No, I said that NYC and the other Big Cities (Rochester, Syracuse, Buffalo, Albany and Utica?) have much higher costs per student than the suburban schools. I never said give the State a pass. I said consider how much state funding these districts get and that may be why we are ranked so high. That and a littany of laws that other states dont mandate on their districts.

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    What other states are doing

    Overview of California educational spending.
    I found it interesting to see similarities and dissimilarities, effects of prop 13, how they handle or fail to handle equitable spending between districts, mandates, etc.

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    Angry School administrators in Hamburg get raise

    By Eileen Werbitsky SOUTHTOWNS CORRESPONDENT
    Updated: 09/02/08 6:54 AM


    Administrators in the Hamburg Central School District will receive a 4.1 percent salary increase for each of the next four years under a contract approved by the School Board, Assistant Superintendent Gordon Kerr said last week.

    The contract, which covers 13 administrators, was negotiated over two months.

    It is considered unusual because it is for four years, not three, as has been customary. The previous contract expired June 30.

    Health care benefits remain the same — with the district contributing 85 percent of their cost.

    Kerr also said the district is currently negotiating with the Service Employees International Union, whose contract expired in June. The union represents about 50 district maintenance employees.

    The teachers’ contract expires at the end of the new school year. Negotiations on a new deal have yet to begin, Kerr said.

    In other matters:

    • The board approved 2008-09 tax rates reflecting an average increase of 6.4 percent. The rates, per $1,000 of assessed valuation are: Hamburg, $27.14; Boston, $16.96; Orchard Park, $28.27; and Eden, $24.23.

    Overall, there was a 2 percent increase in assessed value, primarily in the Town of Boston, school officials said.




    Aren't they in debt? The school district that is? This should help......

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