Who is your favorite Founding Father?

[raoul duke]

Lincoln or Reagan?



These people are candidates for a seat in the House of Representatives, btw.

[Slim.fsp]

Lincoln or Reagan?



These people are candidates for a seat in the House of Representatives, btw.

WTF I thought that the 1st guy was making a joke when he said Lincoln. Ok he is disqualified and I would shell out $20 of my own money to give him a lesson on who the founding fathers are. The last lady (my head almost exploded) she is thrown out of the race all together and she proves why government schools are useless and need to be abolished.

Raoul thanks for giving me a seizure this early in the morning.

If anyone doesn't know what I am ranting about please speak up so you can be educated on who the history of this country and the founding fathers.

If you want my answer to the question I would have to say Jefferson because he knew the problems that government created and on his tombstone it does not list president as a accomplishment, Samuel Adams would come in a close second because he was such of a radical.

[run4it]

If you want my answer to the question I would have to say Jefferson because he knew the problems that government created and on his tombstone it does not list president as a accomplishment, Samuel Adams would come in a close second because he was such of a radical.

Yes...if Jefferson only hadn't lost almost every political battle he engaged...

[Sylvan]

If anyone doesn't know what I am ranting about please speak up so you can be educated on who the history of this country and the founding fathers.

I dont know what you are talking about and am interested in being educated about the founding fathers.

I have mixed opinions because somehow a loophole was left enabling the country to become dysfunctional and incompetent in a short period of time.

[run4it]

I dont know what you are talking about and am interested in being educated about the founding fathers.

I have mixed opinions because somehow a loophole was left enabling the country to become dysfunctional and incompetent in a short period of time.

Au contraire....we're operating well past the average time existence of a republic...

[Sylvan]

Au contraire....we're operating well past the average time existence of a republic...

I thought the republic was ditched by the third presidentcy and its been a democracy since. But if that is wrong, we're only past the average by a few decades. Hmm...I guess that might deserve a trophy or something.

[raoul duke]

Personally, I would have went with either John Jay, Alexander Hamilton and/or James Madison - the authors of the Federalist Papers. The guy who said Lincoln, Brock Olivo, has been somewhat of a favorite of the DFHs. Back in February he had the good sense say this a reporter about why he's qualified to be a Congressman:

"Not only was I football player, but I also was in social studies class, and I have a passion for how this country works," Olivo said.

Where do they find these people?

[Sylvan]

Where do they find these people?

They're being bred by the communists who are selling them to the socialists after a few years at colleges and universities.

[raoul duke]

They're being bred by the communists who are selling them to the socialists after a few years at colleges and universities.

Yeah, I got a feeling college didn't play much of a role.

[Sylvan]

Yeah, I got a feeling college didn't play much of a role.

College plays a major role in the acceptance of enslavement in america whether one comes out as a have or a have not. The culture doesnt have much pride in liberty and independence as it once did, and instead seeks services and luxury that instills dependence of nanny and big brother.

[Sylvan]

Still dont understand what the message is in my last posts?

See this brief explanation of just one example - http://www.speakupusa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20

[raoul duke]

College plays a major role in the acceptance of enslavement in america whether one comes out as a have or a have not. The culture doesnt have much pride in liberty and independence as it once did, and instead seeks services and luxury that instills dependence of nanny and big brother.

Yeah because education is a sure path to oppression. . .

Don't confuse the institution with people who desire to enslaved.

[Slim.fsp]

They're being bred by the communists who are selling them to the socialists after a few years at colleges and universities.

It is not just colleges. The government starts it dumbing down much earlier then 18. Public schools or as I call them government run schools is where most of the dumbing down occurs. The government schools have young impressionable minds 5 days a week 8 hours a day for most of the year. Schools teach one thing obedience, classes have one leader that all the peons either follow or are punished.

The 13 + years gives the government a head start on defining the "troublemakers", this allows them to narrow down who they keep their eye's on. 13 years of profiling gives a good idea of what certain people are capable of.

[Sylvan]

It is not just colleges. The government starts it dumbing down much earlier then 18. Public schools or as I call them government run schools is where most of the dumbing down occurs. The government schools have young impressionable minds 5 days a week 8 hours a day for most of the year. Schools teach one thing obedience, classes have one leader that all the peons either follow or are punished.

The 13 + years gives the government a head start on defining the "troublemakers", this allows them to narrow down who they keep their eye's on. 13 years of profiling gives a good idea of what certain people are capable of.

Yep. And thats what I sort of meant about being "bred by the commies". Governemnt as well as religious schools. Both IMO are theistic authoritarian.

[Sylvan]

Yeah because education is a sure path to oppression. . .

Don't confuse the institution with people who desire to enslaved.

Okay, I'll try not to, but it sure is difficult when observing all the incompetence in the conjested society around me.