Akron teachers get 16.2% raise over four years

[The Stig]

Rewarded for Negligence, only in the school system!



$8,000 Raise....

5% Raises MINIMUM annually.......

5 Weeks Vacation......

And the public sector people complain about "Cost of Living"???? They are the REASON the Cost of Living keeps increasing!!!!!

Hey Smiley...

Where's the 'negotiation with the employer' here?

Is this ludicrous salary justified because "that's what the (artificially controlled) market will pay"? Or does this person deserve it because they're actually expected to work an entire calendar year?

[Cgoodsp466]

Cnotsogood,
Child idiot? Please don't be so hard on yourself about your speaking! You vote? Yeah right UB? You must have me confused with someone else. I work in the private sector. It must be your Nazi wannabe mindset that satisfies your craving for the need to try to make your point by the childish name calling, but hey....if it works for you, I'm happy for you. Now please go and carry your wares with you.

You and i are really Two different people ,I care about the taxpayer and you care about the public sector people stealing it from us.Why do you like taxes and unions so much? I guess you never learned to do it on your own.Well Smiler It sure does suck to be you.Oh amherst called they want their Idiot back,so get back to your perch. I do like you and you are the enemy. Happy independence day,I am going to enjoy the few rights I have left.Thanks for taking the rest.

[Cgoodsp466]

Hey Smiley...

Where's the 'negotiation with the employer' here?

Is this ludicrous salary justified because "that's what the (artificially controlled) market will pay"? Or does this person deserve it because they're actually expected to work an entire calendar year?

Stig Smiley is a good Bundist,Some day he and his kind will get theirs,along with all the school board members and the rest of the public sector crowd.I want Sir spend a lot to tell us how the public sector generates one dollar of wealth? We make it we sell it and those bastards take it. Kind of like the oil companies make 8 cents on the dollar and the government collects 18 cents.Kind of ass back wards to me?

[Smiley]

Hey Smiley...

Where's the 'negotiation with the employer' here?

Is this ludicrous salary justified because "that's what the (artificially controlled) market will pay"? Or does this person deserve it because they're actually expected to work an entire calendar year?

For this one where there was no negotiations. This is what the "Board" decided to do. There is no union involvement with this position. This, IMO, is the one of the reasons that unions exist. Without a union, either public or private, the higher ups get the perks and big payouts and the working stiffs get "0" or next to "0". I am not in favor of higher taxes. I do not benefit from public or private sector workers getting more. In fact, just like you, I also end up paying more in one way or another. I am just in support of workers, NOT the higher ups that recieve perks and bene's that are out of site. Even in the private sector, when employee's recieve pay raises, bonuses, etc., who do you think pays for them? We do. It's the people that buy their product or get their services. Apparently you or any of the others on the MB have not recieved a pay raise in years, right? I'm sorry for you in that regards. Hopefully you are making enough to get by.

[Smiley]

Stig Smiley is a good Bundist,Some day he and his kind will get theirs,along with all the school board members and the rest of the public sector crowd.I want Sir spend a lot to tell us how the public sector generates one dollar of wealth? We make it we sell it and those bastards take it. Kind of like the oil companies make 8 cents on the dollar and the government collects 18 cents.Kind of ass back wards to me?

Cgood,
You apparently are not aware of the various services mandated by the Feds and the State. They are the ones that need elected officials to rethink what is needed and who needs them. So I guess with that, it is safe to say that the public sector does not generate any $. They collect it to provide the services that are mandated. As far as getting mine... I hope it's soon. I could use it to pay my taxes

Unlike you, I support the working stiff. Last I heard, you are one of the working stiffs, right? Whether private or public, they did not create this mess, they just deal with it.

[Cgoodsp466]

For this one where there was no negotiations. This is what the "Board" decided to do. There is no union involvement with this position. This, IMO, is the one of the reasons that unions exist. Without a union, either public or private, the higher ups get the perks and big payouts and the working stiffs get "0" or next to "0". I am not in favor of higher taxes. I do not benefit from public or private sector workers getting more. In fact, just like you, I also end up paying more in one way or another. I am just in support of workers, NOT the higher ups that recieve perks and bene's that are out of site. Even in the private sector, when employee's recieve pay raises, bonuses, etc., who do you think pays for them? We do. It's the people that buy their product or get their services. Apparently you or any of the others on the MB have not recieved a pay raise in years, right? I'm sorry for you in that regards. Hopefully you are making enough to get by.

Let me explain the concept of commision.The more you sell the more you make.Now to extrapolate that down to the public sector and union mentality.Dont worry about working we will all make the same amount for doing nothing. Those services you talk about, with the exception of police and fire I dont need em or want them.I just want to keep more of the money I go out every day and big point coming. EARN.Most of the public servants have on idea of what that means.

[Smiley]

Let me explain the concept of commision.The more you sell the more you make.Now to extrapolate that down to the public sector and union mentality.Dont worry about working we will all make the same amount for doing nothing. Those services you talk about, with the exception of police and fire I dont need em or want them.I just want to keep more of the money I go out every day and big point coming. EARN.Most of the public servants have on idea of what that means.

Question: What will you do should the company reduce the amount of commission, whether it be by dollars or by % so the CEO can take an additional trip over seas or ...... ?

It would be nice if we, the taxpayer, could decide what services we will pay for and which ones we won't. I'd like to also keep more of my money.

[Cgoodsp466]

Question: What will you do should the company reduce the amount of commission, whether it be by dollars or by % so the CEO can take an additional trip over seas or ...... ?

It would be nice if we, the taxpayer, could decide what services we will pay for and which ones we won't. I'd like to also keep more of my money.

Commissions have been cut in my industries for years. When I started in this business in the mid 80s most lines paid between 8and 10% now if you find a 5 thats a winner. To stay even you sell more.The owner of the compan took the chance where do i get off extorting him?

[Enough]

Commissions have been cut in my industries for years. When I started in this business in the mid 80s most lines paid between 8and 10% now if you find a 5 thats a winner. To stay even you sell more.The owner of the compan took the chance where do i get off extorting him?

What's even funnier is, the company I work for works with profit margains around 6-8%. When someone in Erie County purchases something from us the government tacks on an additional 8.75% sales tax. That means the government makes more than we do everytime we sell something!

We should be in the State Pension Fund, we're bankrolling it!

[The Stig]

For this one where there was no negotiations.

What about the other one?

Are you going to remain quiet each and every time you paint yourself into a corner, or are you just going to duck after your BS is thrown back into your face? I'm trying to decide whether or not you're worth replying to. So far, it doesn't look like it's worth the time.

[Smiley]

What about the other one?

Are you going to remain quiet each and every time you paint yourself into a corner, or are you just going to duck after your BS is thrown back into your face? I'm trying to decide whether or not you're worth replying to. So far, it doesn't look like it's worth the time.

The other one was negotiations! One thing you have to remember is the elected officials are the ones that have the fiduciary responsibility. That is the POWER that they hold as we, the public gave them the ability to say yes or no. So the union asks for a number of things. One of them obviously is a raise. If the people in POWER agree with them and grant it, who is the bad guy? Negotiating in public will NEVER happen. I'm not saying it's good or bad. Going into negotiations, the unions usually ask for the financial records so they can see what the employers ability to pay really is. It is quite obvious that they had the abi;ity to pay.

As far as you thinking if it's worth replying too. Please don't use too much brain power on that, because as you can see I sometimes have a tough time trying to decide if you are worth replying to. If you don't reply, I won't loose any sleep over it.

[The Stig]

The other one was negotiations!

As far as you thinking if it's worth replying too. Please don't use too much brain power on that, because as you can see I sometimes have a tough time trying to decide if you are worth replying to. If you don't reply, I won't loose any sleep over it.

No, Mr. Brain Power, it wasn't a negotiation in any sense of the word, because of the reasons I wrote. I still haven't heard a peep about that, and yet you dwell on salient points. Why? I'll answer, because I apparently also have 'brain power'.

You choose not to respond because you know your point is baseless, and you throw smoke around ignoring the obvious because you know you're stuck.

Did I miss anything there, or is there some other pointless thing you'll dwell on instead?

[Cgoodsp466]

What's even funnier is, the company I work for works with profit margains around 6-8%. When someone in Erie County purchases something from us the government tacks on an additional 8.75% sales tax. That means the government makes more than we do everytime we sell something!

We should be in the State Pension Fund, we're bankrolling it!

I want to know when did the public sector clowns become more important then the private sector employee. How come I have to pay more to bail these bastars out when they dont produce anything. You want to see mental midgets go to the DMV. I tape my head every time I am forced to go to that hell hole. Or go to the Wheatfield town hall and Pay your water bill,the worthless piece of crap who runs it thinks her crap dont stink. Like I said I cancelled my organ donnor card becuase they cant guarantee a public service person wont get something.I wont help one of them for all the tax breaks in the world.

[Cgoodsp466]

No, Mr. Brain Power, it wasn't a negotiation in any sense of the word, because of the reasons I wrote. I still haven't heard a peep about that, and yet you dwell on salient points. Why? I'll answer, because I apparently also have 'brain power'.

You choose not to respond because you know your point is baseless, and you throw smoke around ignoring the obvious because you know you're stuck.

Did I miss anything there, or is there some other pointless thing you'll dwell on instead?

This guy is one of them,he loves unions and a public sector person makes his putter flutter.

[Smiley]

No, Mr. Brain Power, it wasn't a negotiation in any sense of the word, because of the reasons I wrote. I still haven't heard a peep about that, and yet you dwell on salient points. Why? I'll answer, because I apparently also have 'brain power'.

You choose not to respond because you know your point is baseless, and you throw smoke around ignoring the obvious because you know you're stuck.

Did I miss anything there, or is there some other pointless thing you'll dwell on instead?

Only if you say so...it must be