Reply With QuoteGood question, grandpabob. I've wondered the same.
here we go again and its not a drug center or a porno shop this time they want to stop a deli on main street. next time anyone complains about everything getting built in the burbs just look at the protests every time some one wants to do something in buffalo. why would anyone build in the city and face all of this BS when the burbs welcome them.
do they actually want empty old abandoned buildings instead of businesses
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Good question, grandpabob. I've wondered the same.
What deli? Where?
Where did you hear they were blocking it? Is it those pesky preservationalist
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I'm guessing he's talking about this one proposed for Parkside:
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...21/1002246.asp
It's really gotten out of hand when neighbors go so far as to protest a freakin DELI coming to their corner...
They talk about it like it's a crack house or something.
I just read the article, it reads like a poorly written comedy.
"You can't judge a deli based on another deli," he said.We go to supermarkets, we don't go to delis," said Michael Riester, president of the Parkside Community Association.All that for a business that wants to build a -"I think he [Alomari] genuinely wants to work with the community," LoCurto said. "If it's done right, it could be a part of Main Street coming back."
Where are the food police when you need them??a convenience store at the corner of Main Street and Florence Avenue featuring a bakery, fresh meats, sandwiches and pastries.
The path is clear
Though no eyes can see
The course laid down long before.
And so with gods and men
The sheep remain inside their pen,
Though many times they've seen the way to leave.
It appears NIMBYism has invaded my neighborhood...needless to say, I'm not very happy about it.
Delaware Council Member Michael LoCurto and the Parkside Community Association hosted the open meeting, held in the St. Mary's School for the Deaf auditorium. More than 50 local residents turned out to spar with the prospective deli owners, Ayish Alomari and Hizam Al-Samma, for a little more than an hour.
Their proposal calls for a convenience store at the corner of Main Street and Florence Avenue featuring a bakery, fresh meats, sandwiches and pastries. But it came in for stiff criticism from the crowd. Attendees shared their concerns about having another deli in a neighborhood that already has two others, the lack of parking near the site and security issues from the clientele they said the other delis tend to serve.
"Have you looked at the needs of the people? . . . We've had nothing but trouble from corner grocery stores," said resident Ruth Lampe.
For the love of Christ, it's a frigging deli not a methadone clinic for AIDS ridden parolees! "The needs of the people"? WTF?
If you weren't aware, Parkside has the second highest concentration of nanny state NIMBYs found in the Greater Buffalo metroplex. After all, we're the epicenter of the lawn sign political movement. You have a cause and a lawn sign? We're for it!
I'd recommend that these people refrain from angering me any further or I'll be forced to again rally the forces of common sense to protest their protests.
"HEY HEY, HO HO, I WANT A SAMMICH ON A KAISER ROLL!"
To give the people against this some credit, I assume they are expecting (and fearing) yet another dirty corner store run by Arabs, plastered with hand-painted signs, and becoming a hang-out for low life. Many of those already exist. I'd be wary, too, and reluctant to trust the new owners when they say they'll be different.
When I saw "deli", I thought of Mastman's on Hertel and wondered why they'd be against such a thing.
Sounds like good old-fashioned racism to me. If that deli were owned by some white-bread Presbyterian, I sincerely doubt that anyone would have a problem with it.Originally Posted by granpabob
Think you can trust the government?
Ask an Indian!
this one is on main street right across from sisters hospital. not sure of the exact location but it was just proposed and the protesters are complaining already
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I heard something about this on WBEN but didn't hear the full story
This is just pathetic.
And some people in Buffalo wonder why people in the burbs dislike aspects of the city. This is one of those reasons
Vote for freedom, not political parties.
Politicians need to cut spending
BINGO!!
"They [businessmen] come into a community, and they have no idea what they're coming into. We go to supermarkets, we don't go to delis," said Michael Riester, president of the Parkside Community Association.
The president of the Parkside Community Association isn't interested in patronizing local businesses?
Remain calm!! But run for your lives if necessary!
It is the reputation, not the "race". Check out the history of places such as the market at Hoyt & Potomac, which went from newly-remodeled, family-owned-for 40-years convenience to filthy (FILTHY!) hole of outdated food, beer, Lotto, and drug dealers within 2 years of Arab ownership.
That's what these people fear, I am sure.
If I lived out in Williamsville, I'd probably think that a "deli" is no big deal, but that's not what we're talking about - these places are rarely nice, clean little convenience stores. They are usually hangouts for scum.
No doubt about that. Here's an ironic story:Check out the history of places such as the market at Hoyt & Potomac, which went from newly-remodeled, family-owned-for 40-years convenience to filthy (FILTHY!) hole of outdated food, beer, Lotto, and drug dealers within 2 years of Arab ownership.
An ex-coworker and I used to drive around buffalo during our lunch break looking at prospective properties to purchase. Most of the time this was on the west side. I haven't done any studies that would prove a correlation, but it seems that a corner store does cause the surrounding community to deteriorate. I lived one block from that sh*t-hole on Hoyt and Potomac that you referenced, and you're right-on with your analysis. Here's the ironic part: the ex-coworker I used to ride around with lives directly across the street from the proposed deli on Florence. Our next conversation should be interesting, but I highly doubt he opposes it. Those corner stores thrive on areas in decline. The parkside district doesn't meet that criteria. I'm betting that it will be an asset to the neighborhood. But it really doesn't matter one way or another. I'd rather see the NIMBY's thrown into a blender and served as Cheddar Cheese Dogs at the local 7-11. They obviously have no respect for private property or free enterprise, unless it is theirs.
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