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    Erie County lost 5,001 residents last year

    Erie County’s estimated population dropped 0.54 percent last year to 913,338 residents
    By Stephen T. Watson
    Updated: 03/20/08 6:45 AM

    Shrinking population

    Erie County lost 5,001 residents last year, continuing a decade-long trend of annual population losses seen here and across upstate New York, according to new population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau.

    However, at least one expert cautioned that the declines reported for Erie and Niagara counties shouldn’t be taken too seriously because bureau estimates have proved to be inaccurate in the past.

    “People need to bear in mind that these are estimates built upon estimates,” said Kathryn A. Foster, director of the Regional Institute at the University at Buffalo.

    Still, the figures released Wednesday by the Census Bureau are the latest signs that upstate New York communities haven’t been able to stanch their population declines.

    Upstate’s largest counties — Erie, Monroe, Onondaga and Albany — all lost residents over the previous year, and only Albany County has seen a net population gain since 2000.

    “There are no real surprises. It’s the continuation of a trend. For the most part, downstate is showing the increases. Maybe a little around Albany,” Foster said Wednesday.

    The new Census Bureau data shows Erie County lost 0.54 percent of its population in the 12 months between July 2006 and July 2007 and Niagara County’s population essentially remained flat over that time, falling 0.08 percent.

    Since April 2000, Erie County’s population has fallen by 3.9 percent, from 950,265 to 913,338, and no county in New York State lost more people over those seven years than the 36,927 who left Erie County, according to Census figures.

    Niagara County lost 165 people between 2006 and 2007, when its population fell to 214,845, and a total of 4,999 people since 2000, the census estimates.

    Those figures are in line with the population losses for other counties in Western New York and across upstate New York.

    All eight of the counties of Western New York lost population between 2006 and 2007 and show overall population losses of between 0.6 percent and 4.2 percent since 2000, the data shows.

    Cattaraugus County, in fact, at a 0.62 percent decline, had the highest population loss between 2006 and 2007, by percentage, of any county in the state.

    The annually updated estimates are based on birth and death records and migration patterns that are tracked through address changes on federal tax returns.

    Foster noted, however, that the yearly estimates can often undercount population.

    In 2000, for example, the more-accurate, once-a-decade census count found that previous yearly estimates had under-counted Erie County’s population by about 25,000 people, she said.

    No matter how the final numbers come out in 2010, it’s clear that downstate’s population is holding steady or rising while upstate’s is slowly declining.

    Orange County in the Hudson Valley has been the fastest growing county in the state since 2000 and remained so last year with a growth rate of 0.8 percent.

    Neighboring Sullivan County was No. 2 with a 0.7 percent growth rate over the year.

    The mid-Hudson Valley experienced a population boom over much of the decade, fueled in part by post-Sept. 11 jitters in New York City and sky-high home prices closer to the city.

    New York City grew by 0.29 percent over the year.

    Overall, the state’s population nudged up by 15,741 in the 12 months ending in July 2007, to 19.3 million people.

    The census figures show that the population drain from the Northeast and the Midwest to the South and West is continuing.

    While some counties in the Southwest experienced dramatic change over the year — growth rates were as high as 8 percent in Texas — no county in New York saw a percentage gain or loss of more than 1 percent.

    This is important, Foster said, because if the state’s slower-than-average population growth is captured in the 2010 Census, New York could lose out to boom states on financial aid and congressional representation.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    I absolutely do NOT understand why Res allows VegasPuke to continue posting. Can someone name a single thread he's started that was not insulting and degrading to Buffalo and its residents? His/her posts are 100% negative and disruptive and serve NO purpose other than to give that yak some sick jollies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kma516
    I absolutely do NOT understand why Res allows VegasPuke to continue posting. Can someone name a single thread he's started that was not insulting and degrading to Buffalo and its residents? His/her posts are 100% negative and disruptive and serve NO purpose other than to give that yak some sick jollies.

    I love Vegas Dude. I live in this God forsaken area It is a degrading place run by Idiots,that are elected by brain dead free cheesers.Some day happiness will be Western NY in my rear view Mirror.Untill then I will support Vegas Dude and say that Western NY could be a great place but becuase of its largest employer the Government it is a sewer.You give me my Jollies love your attitude,you couldnt see dysfunction if it bit you. Where do you buy those Rose colored glasses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cgoodsp466
    I love Vegas Dude. I live in this God forsaken area It is a degrading place run by Idiots,that are elected by brain dead free cheesers.Some day happiness will be Western NY in my rear view Mirror.Untill then I will support Vegas Dude and say that Western NY could be a great place but becuase of its largest employer the Government it is a sewer.You give me my Jollies love your attitude,you couldnt see dysfunction if it bit you. Where do you buy those Rose colored glasses?
    If it is soo bad here, why dont you go and live with VegasDude in Las Vegas and his moms basement in Elma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cgoodsp466
    I love Vegas Dude. I live in this God forsaken area It is a degrading place run by Idiots,that are elected by brain dead free cheesers.Some day happiness will be Western NY in my rear view Mirror.Untill then I will support Vegas Dude and say that Western NY could be a great place but becuase of its largest employer the Government it is a sewer.You give me my Jollies love your attitude,you couldnt see dysfunction if it bit you. Where do you buy those Rose colored glasses?

    I recognize dysfunction when I see it - you are a perfect example. You sit back and whine, cry, pizz & moan but do nothing to improve your life. You'll be happy when you see WNY in the mirror? Then by jove just DO IT and quit whining! Can't? Don't really want to? Then I suggest you get off your arse and do something to make this a better instead of whining about it like VegasPuke. Nothing will change here unless WE work to make it happen. Crying doesn't solve anything ... action does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kma516
    I recognize dysfunction when I see it - you are a perfect example. You sit back and whine, cry, pizz & moan but do nothing to improve your life. You'll be happy when you see WNY in the mirror? Then by jove just DO IT and quit whining! Can't? Don't really want to? Then I suggest you get off your arse and do something to make this a better instead of whining about it like VegasPuke. Nothing will change here unless WE work to make it happen. Crying doesn't solve anything ... action does.

    Chit or get off the pot!
    My friend you cant fix stupid? Think about that and get back to me,I have a few days off.My life is great I just have a low tolerence for corruption.Son you wish you were me. NY Sucks. Ok your turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabapples
    If it is soo bad here, why dont you go and live with VegasDude in Las Vegas and his moms basement in Elma?
    Apples you are talking out of the wrong end again. NY will not run out of free cheese.Relax enjoy the holliday weekend. See ya in Church.

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    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Buffalo and Erie County Sucks! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Everything is horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I hate my life because of Buffalo!!!!!
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I wish the Canadians would come and burn it down again!
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! At least I have this message board so I can complain all day because I have no friends!

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I like to b**ch and complain, but when it comes to doing something about it, SCREW IT...I just want to complain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyboard150
    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Buffalo and Erie County Sucks! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Everything is horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I hate my life because of Buffalo!!!!!
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I wish the Canadians would come and burn it down again!
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! At least I have this message board so I can complain all day because I have no friends!

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I like to b**ch and complain, but when it comes to doing something about it, SCREW IT...I just want to complain!

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cgoodsp466
    You see how the truth will set you free. You never know you have a problem untill you admitt it. Now say this," my name is Keyboard and I am a Pin Head."
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! He called me names!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cgoodsp466
    My friend you cant fix stupid? Think about that and get back to me,I have a few days off.My life is great I just have a low tolerence for corruption.Son you wish you were me. NY Sucks. Ok your turn.

    First of all, I'm female so don't refer to me as "son". Secondly, you have no clue what my life is like and what I do for a living but suffice it to say I highly doubt I'd want to be you. I'm in a position most people envy and wish for. Thirdly, you're not the only one here who hates the rampant corruption around us. I despise it as do many others on this board! The difference is, I see where others actively do things to try to make it better, big and small. I have yet to see where you have since I've joined. I can't speak as it pertains prior to that. I do my part off the board to try to improve things. Do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasDude
    Erie County’s estimated population dropped 0.54 percent last year to 913,338 residents
    By Stephen T. Watson
    Updated: 03/20/08 6:45 AM

    Shrinking population

    Erie County lost 5,001 residents last year, continuing a decade-long trend of annual population losses seen here and across upstate New York, according to new population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau.

    However, at least one expert cautioned that the declines reported for Erie and Niagara counties shouldn’t be taken too seriously because bureau estimates have proved to be inaccurate in the past.

    “People need to bear in mind that these are estimates built upon estimates,” said Kathryn A. Foster, director of the Regional Institute at the University at Buffalo.

    Still, the figures released Wednesday by the Census Bureau are the latest signs that upstate New York communities haven’t been able to stanch their population declines.

    Upstate’s largest counties — Erie, Monroe, Onondaga and Albany — all lost residents over the previous year, and only Albany County has seen a net population gain since 2000.

    “There are no real surprises. It’s the continuation of a trend. For the most part, downstate is showing the increases. Maybe a little around Albany,” Foster said Wednesday.

    The new Census Bureau data shows Erie County lost 0.54 percent of its population in the 12 months between July 2006 and July 2007 and Niagara County’s population essentially remained flat over that time, falling 0.08 percent.

    Since April 2000, Erie County’s population has fallen by 3.9 percent, from 950,265 to 913,338, and no county in New York State lost more people over those seven years than the 36,927 who left Erie County, according to Census figures.

    Niagara County lost 165 people between 2006 and 2007, when its population fell to 214,845, and a total of 4,999 people since 2000, the census estimates.

    Those figures are in line with the population losses for other counties in Western New York and across upstate New York.

    All eight of the counties of Western New York lost population between 2006 and 2007 and show overall population losses of between 0.6 percent and 4.2 percent since 2000, the data shows.

    Cattaraugus County, in fact, at a 0.62 percent decline, had the highest population loss between 2006 and 2007, by percentage, of any county in the state.

    The annually updated estimates are based on birth and death records and migration patterns that are tracked through address changes on federal tax returns.

    Foster noted, however, that the yearly estimates can often undercount population.

    In 2000, for example, the more-accurate, once-a-decade census count found that previous yearly estimates had under-counted Erie County’s population by about 25,000 people, she said.

    No matter how the final numbers come out in 2010, it’s clear that downstate’s population is holding steady or rising while upstate’s is slowly declining.

    Orange County in the Hudson Valley has been the fastest growing county in the state since 2000 and remained so last year with a growth rate of 0.8 percent.

    Neighboring Sullivan County was No. 2 with a 0.7 percent growth rate over the year.

    The mid-Hudson Valley experienced a population boom over much of the decade, fueled in part by post-Sept. 11 jitters in New York City and sky-high home prices closer to the city.

    New York City grew by 0.29 percent over the year.

    Overall, the state’s population nudged up by 15,741 in the 12 months ending in July 2007, to 19.3 million people.

    The census figures show that the population drain from the Northeast and the Midwest to the South and West is continuing.

    While some counties in the Southwest experienced dramatic change over the year — growth rates were as high as 8 percent in Texas — no county in New York saw a percentage gain or loss of more than 1 percent.

    This is important, Foster said, because if the state’s slower-than-average population growth is captured in the 2010 Census, New York could lose out to boom states on financial aid and congressional representation.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
    I don't doubt the figures are generally accurate, based on this area's long term trend. But you have to remember that they are estimates and they've been wrong before. It's hard to be accurate when you're dealing with such small numbers.

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    When things are chronically bad and you've grown weary of hearing that things are chronically bad, there's only one thing left to do.

    Target the individuals that speak about things being chronically bad.

    If that doesn't get any play, try to institute some sort of subjective "street-credibility" credential that reflects "your" personal opinion on what a "good activist" should be doing to further the common good. This is handy for discrediting the above mentioned "chronically-bad-speaker", who conveniently doesn't meet your street-cred criteria.

    What an excellent example of human nature we have here. Several individuals are clamoring for censorship because they don't like the message of a particular poster. Simply put - you should be ashamed of yourselves.

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    One thing to consider is addition by subtraction.

    One has to ask who is leaving. Depending on who leaves, it can be viewed as a good or bad thing.

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