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    Quote Originally Posted by dtwarren View Post
    Because it was never authorized by the appointing authority like Pinnavaia's was.
    And I concede that point to you. Who prepared these salaries reports? Who typed up the budget? Clearly there are discrepancies and cleary the 3 town board members weren't doing their jobs. So who is to blame here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLegendKiller View Post
    And I concede that point to you. Who prepared these salaries reports? Who typed up the budget? Clearly there are discrepancies and cleary the 3 town board members weren't doing their jobs. So who is to blame here?
    The payroll reports are prepared by the Comptroller's Office.
    The Budget is prepared by the Supervisor and approved by the Town Board.

    Who is to blame:

    1) Bielecki for unilaterally giving Kauderer the excess wages he knew he did not obtain authorization for whether you consider it out-of-title pay or a raise or any other name you call it.

    2) Piotrowski if he countersigned any forms for Kauderer to receive this money without proper authorization from the Town Board.

    3) Kauderer because she knew or should have known that she was receiving wages that were not properly approved. She may have been the very person who prepared the payroll reports making them self-serving.

    4) the Town board for not catching it sooner, but they now have less time and less eyes to catch these matters since the downsizing and coincidently this started in during the height of the downsizing debate and vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLegendKiller View Post
    In the mean time, anyone have any idea what the Emergency Meeting re: Operation of the Comptroller's Office is going to encompass, scheduled for today at 10am at Burchfield?
    Don't know, any updates?

    Apparently there is another one Tuesday morning: http://www.westseneca.net/index.php?q=node/497
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtwarren View Post
    No, titles only by department also there is no money appropriated for Acting Deputy Town Comptroller or Deputy Town Comptroller: http://westseneca.net/pdfile/2011_Adopted_Budget.pdf
    Thank you. The 2011 salary for mini computer operator is $76,602 and the regular salary from the 2010 salary report for Acting Deputy Comptroller was $70,252.53 without overtime. So, is that $76,602 really the salary for mini computer operator or did the comptroller's office slip in Acting deputy comptroller salary figures as if the position still existed but used the other job title?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorja View Post
    Thank you. The 2011 salary for mini computer operator is $76,602 and the regular salary from the 2010 salary report for Acting Deputy Comptroller was $70,252.53 without overtime. So, is that $76,602 really the salary for mini computer operator or did the comptroller's office slip in Acting deputy comptroller salary figures as if the position still existed but used the other job title?
    "Acting Deputy Comptroller"

    Is there a real controller above this position?

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    Yes, that is currently held by Robert Bielecki.
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    "Acting Deputy Comptroller was $70,252.53 without overtime. "

    What do they do for $70k if the town has a comptroller?

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    Is it unusual to have the meeting at Burchfield?
    Why is there not an agenda, Doesn't a special meeting have to publish a purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchardpark View Post
    Is it unusual to have the meeting at Burchfield?
    Why is there not an agenda, Doesn't a special meeting have to publish a purpose?
    That is where their offices are now, so long as it can accommodate the public that appears to observe there is nothing inappropriate.

    There is an agenda:



    Event Date:


    August 16, 2011 - 10:00am

    Notice is hereby given that the Town Board of the Town of West Seneca will hold a special Town Board meeting on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 10:00 A.M. at the Burchfield Center, 2001 Union Road, West Seneca, NY 14224 to discuss the following:



    1) Operation of Town Comptroller’s Office
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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    "Acting Deputy Comptroller was $70,252.53 without overtime. "

    What do they do for $70k if the town has a comptroller?
    The comptroller position is part time with a salary of $25,750.

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    So do you know what happened?

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    According to the WS Bee it was cancelled because the labor attorney could not attend.
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    From the West Seneca Bee: http://www.westsenecabee.com/news/20...postponed.html

    Supervisor Wallace C. Piotrowski disagreed and said the council member is in turn deceiving the pubic.

    “You approve every budget,” he told Clarke, referring to the three consecutive budgets for years 2009-11. “We receive a chart listing every employee in this town ... it’s our duty as board members to review the documentation that’s provided to us ... if there’s a question, you should be saying, ‘Why is that person getting paid that much?’”

    Piotrowski further noted that four residents — Rudy Russo, Karen Lucachik, Daniel Warren and Paula Minklei — each questioned the Town Board in 2009 as to why Kauderer was being paid the $70,000-plus salary.

    “You didn’t say anything in those minutes,” Piotrowski said, noting that he and Councilwoman Sheila M. Meegan defended Kauderer at that time.

    “So either you didn’t know, or you should have found out,” the supervisor told Clarke. “To tell the public that [Bielecki] did something we didn’t approve is absolutely false.”

    Meegan said Friday that the purpose of the meeting was to be in compliance pursuant to the labor attorney’s advice.

    “[Bielecki] did not know what he was doing was violating the contract of the union. That’s not your fault, but we know it’s wrong so let’s fix it,” she said.
    No one defended the pay budgeted amount for Kauderer's title at that time: http://westseneca.net/bdmin09/2010budget.html

    Obvioulsy Piotrowski is confusing a budget item with actual pay, just beacause an amount is budgeted does not mean that it reflects the pay.
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    This issue is on the agenda for tonight's meeting: http://westseneca.net/index.php?q=node/370

    11. Comptroller re Appointment of Linda Kauderer as Deputy Town Comptroller provisional
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    So at the Town Board meeting Kauderer was provisionally appointed to the position of Deputy Town Comptroller at a rate of pay of $65,000.00 per year.
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