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    2% solution no panacea

    From: http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article478024.ece

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    Provisions also exist to allow government and school districts to exceed the tax cap entirely -- if 60 percent or more of the people who adopt the budget agree to exceed the 2 percent limit.

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    For a legislative body of 5 people this will need 3 votes
    For a legislative body of three people (I.e. West Seneca) this would need 2 votes

    The same number of votes to adopt a budget.


    Just more smoke and mirrors.
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    I also see the 2% cap as a universal OK to raise all budgets 2% every year instead of trying to hold the line or lower taxes. The only good it does is to have a bargaining point when dealing with public union raises. Every new budget will be increased 2%.
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    The only true solution is CUTS..

    Plus if Cuomo is ponderng running for a higher office in 2012, the man has wasted our time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post
    Every new budget will be increased 2%.
    Exactly. There would be no effort to cut, or keep costs even. They will just shoot for 2% every year.

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    And their excuse. We are under the cost of inflation, we are under the max allowed increase.. so the "NYS government" gets to shove it up our kester a little at a time versus a lot. Either way your getting screwed...

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    2% Cap - Cuomo signs bill on family's front lawn

    Cuomo signs bill on family's front law

    LANCASTER, N.Y. (WIVB) - Governor Andrew Cuomo is in western New York Tuesday, drumming up support for his new property tax cap. This comes as rumors swirl that he could be a potential running mate for President Obama in 2012.
    It wasn’t your average day on Schiffler Court in Lancaster. The governor wanted an average family that would benefit from the property tax cap, and to find it he came to a cul de sac off William Street.
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    So what is the point.. Your home taxes will be 20% higher in less than 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    So what is the point.. Your home taxes will be 20% higher in less than 10 years.
    It's the same as the gay marriage bill.. it makes him look good.
    “Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    So what is the point.. Your home taxes will be 20% higher in less than 10 years.
    It's closer to 22%... since it compounds...

    But how oftern over the last 10 years has your taxes increased by more than 2%?
    "I know you guys enjoy reading my stuff because it all makes sense. "

    Dumbest post ever! Thanks for the laugh PO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DomesticatedFeminist View Post
    It's the same as the gay marriage bill.. it makes him look good.
    No it doesn't. Net gain for the non-government laborer/non-government ran business owner is still ever rising taxes..

    The global economy is going to eat WNY/NYS for lunch if our "elected" brain trust stops worrying about lining their pockets versus what our community needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougles View Post
    But how oftern over the last 10 years has your taxes increased by more than 2%?
    Good question.

    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    So what is the point.. Your home taxes will be 20% higher in less than 10 years.
    There is another piece of it that could make it less. It's capped at 2% or the rate of inflation, whichever is less. Inflation is rarely less than 2%, but it does get that low during recessions (like 2009 & 2010 I think) But for the most part, we can count on 2%. I wonder how it would work if there was deflation?

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    Hey, the guy puts a 2% cap on property taxes but what else has he done to correct the fact that we have the highest taxes in the US?

    He hasn't done anything!!!!!

    In fact he's added to the problem, adding more state employees and creating jobs for people like Sam Hoyt.

    Yea, we'll only see property taxes increase by 2% a year, but we'll see a slew of new taxes, fees and money leaving our pockets and going to Albany.
    Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem. Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    Good question.


    There is another piece of it that could make it less. It's capped at 2% or the rate of inflation, whichever is less. Inflation is rarely less than 2%, but it does get that low during recessions (like 2009 & 2010 I think) But for the most part, we can count on 2%. I wonder how it would work if there was deflation?
    Were you born yesterday?

    We need cuts, not caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Were you born yesterday?
    it's just my youthful glow...

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    Originally posted by dtwarren:
    For a legislative body of 5 people this will need 3 votes
    For a legislative body of three people (I.e. West Seneca) this would need 2 votes

    The same number of votes to adopt a budget.
    Wouldn't there be a referendum where the voters decide not the boards?


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