Would it be a stretch to think you are now putting all this on the new board ? Did you ever mention these things to an existing board member ? Were you part of the original Concerned Citizens group in their fight against the Ice Rink on Clinton St. ? I know you mentioned a couple of people who were, as being associated with your dispute with the Canisius Fields. They have long held the ear of an existing board member. I would think they could have assisted you to bring these issues to the forefront back some time ago.
Tonight the electricity is out at the intersection of Center and Union and 400 and Union. There are police cars posted at both intersections with lights flashing, with policemen INSIDE the cars. Neither was attempting to direct traffic which was on their own.
I think we have too many police, or the ones we have do not do their jobs. Heads should roll.
1) Yes.Originally Posted by Spirit of Ebenezer
2) No.
“We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson
Here is an example the Town of Brookhaven has had a nuisance abatement law on the books since 1989 it provides for a $1,000.00 a day fine against the property owner for each day he allows the nuisance to continue after being given notice of it:
§ 49B-1. Findings and purpose. A. The Town Board of the Town of Brookhaven hereby finds that the peace, good order and safety of the Town has been jeopardized by the effects of the nationally recognized drug epidemic and its resultant proliferation of crack houses and other unlawful activities and that other public nuisances exist in the Town of Brookhaven in the ownership, operation and maintenance of certain commercial and residential establishments and the use or alteration of property in flagrant violation of the public health laws; the multiple dwelling law; penal laws regulating obscenity, prostitution, drug offenses and related conduct; licensing laws; environmental laws; laws relating to the sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages; laws relating to gambling, controlled substances and dangerous drugs; and penal laws relating to the possession of stolen property, all of which interfere with the interest of the public in the quality of life and the total community environment, the tone of commerce in the Town of Brookhaven, property values and the public health, safety and welfare.
B. The Town Board of the Town of Brookhaven further finds that the continued occurrence of such activities and violations is detrimental to the health, safety and welfare of the people of the Town of Brookhaven and of the businesses thereof and visitors thereto.
C. It is the purpose of the Town Board to create one standardized procedure for securing legal and equitable remedies relating to the subject matter encompassed by this chapter, without prejudice to the use of procedures otherwise available or recognized under the common law or existing and subsequently enacted laws, and to strengthen and clarify existing laws on the subject.
§ 49B-2. Title.
This chapter shall be known and may be referred to as the "Nuisance Abatement Law."
§ 49B-3. Definitions; presumptive evidence of nuisance. A. As used in this chapter, the following terms shall have the meanings indicated:
CONVICTION — Applied in accordance with the provisions of Subdivision 13 of § 1.20 of the Criminal Procedure Law.
PERSON — Includes persons, firms, partnerships, corporations and any other entity.
PUBLIC NUISANCE — Includes, but is not limited to, the following: (1) Any building, erection or place used in whole or in part for the purpose of prostitution as that term is defined in § 230.00 of the Penal Law.
(2) Any building, erection or place used in whole or in part for the purpose of obscene performances. The term "obscene" shall have the same meaning as that term is defined in Subdivision 1 of § 235.00 of the Penal Law. The term "performance" shall have the same meaning as that term is defined in Subdivision 3 of § 235.00 of the Penal Law.
(3) Any building, erection or place used in whole or in part for the purpose of promotion of obscene material. The term "obscene" shall have the same meaning as that term is defined in Subdivision 1 of § 235.00 of the Penal Law. The term "material" shall have the same meaning as that term is defined in Subdivision 2 of § 235.00 of the Penal Law.
(4) Any building, erection or place used in whole or in part for violations of any of the provisions of Articles 220, 221 or 225 of the Penal Law.
(5) Any building, erection or place used in whole or in part for violations of the provisions of §§ 165.40, 165.45, 165.50, 170.65, 170.70 and 175.10 of the Penal Law or § 415-a of the Vehicle and Traffic Law.
(6) Any building, erection or place used in whole or in part for any of the unlawful activities described in § 123 of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.
(7) Any building, erection or place used in whole or in part for the commission of a criminal nuisance as that term is defined in § 240.45 of the Penal Law.
(8) Any building, erection or place used in whole or in part for the purpose of conducting a business, activity or enterprise which is not licensed as required by any federal, state, county or local enactment.
(9) Any building, erection or place used in whole or in part for the regular use, manufacture, distribution, storage or sale of the substances described in Articles 220 and 221 of the Penal Law. For the purpose of this chapter, two or more occurrences of one or more or any combination of the acts described in this subsection within the one-year period preceding commencement of an action under this chapter shall be presumptive evidence that such acts are regularly occurring.
(10) Any building, erection or place, in whole or in part, wherein there is occurring a public nuisance not heretofore defined but recognized as such under the common law.
B. For the purposes of this chapter, two or more convictions of any person for violation of any of the aforedescribed provisions of law within the one-year period preceding commencement of an action under this chapter shall be presumptive evidence that the building, erection or place is a public nuisance.
§ 49B-4. Public nuisance prohibited.
No person shall cause, allow or permit a public nuisance to exist.
§ 49B-5. Injunctive relief. A. The Town Attorney may bring and maintain a civil proceeding in the name of the Town of Brookhaven to enjoin a public nuisance within the scope of this chapter and enjoining the person conducting, maintaining or permitting the public nuisance from further conducting, maintaining or permitting the public nuisance. Unless otherwise indicated herein, said action shall be governed by the provisions of the Civil Practice Law and Rules.
B. In addition to any other remedy provided by law, injunctive relief granted pursuant to this chapter may provide for the closing of any building, structure, erection or place and may authorize representatives of the Town of Brookhaven to enter upon the premises and take any necessary actions to close and appropriately secure the premises so as to prevent entry to and/or continued use thereof.
C. In any action brought under this chapter, the Town Attorney may file a notice of pendency pursuant to the provisions of Article 65 of the Civil Practice Law and Rules.
D. In any action brought under this chapter, the Town Attorney may apply for the appointment of a receiver as provided in Article 64 of the Civil Practice Law and Rules. Solely for the purposes of this chapter, the Town of Brookhaven shall be deemed to have an interest in the subject premises as that term is utilized in § 6401 of the Civil Practice Law and Rules. Any actions taken hereunder shall not be construed nor constitute an act of possession, ownership or control of the subject premises by the Town of Brookhaven.
E. In any action brought under this chapter, the person in whose name ownership of the real property affected by the action is recorded in the office of the Town Assessor or the County Clerk, as the case may be, shall be presumed to be the owner thereof.
F. In any action brought under this chapter, whenever there is evidence that any person was the manager, operator, supervisor or in any other way in charge of or in possession and/or control of the premises at the time a public nuisance was being conducted, maintained or permitted, such evidence shall be presumptive that he, she or it was an agent or employee of the owner or lessee of the building, erection or place.
G. The existence of an adequate remedy at law shall not prevent the granting of temporary, preliminary or permanent injunctive relief pursuant to this chapter.
H. Intentional disobedience or resistance of any provision of an order or judgment awarding injunctive relief pursuant to this chapter, in addition to any other punishment prescribed by law, shall be punishable by a fine of not more than $500 or by imprisonment not exceeding six months, or by both.
I. A judgment rendered awarding a permanent injunction pursuant to this chapter shall be and become a lien upon the building, erection or place named in the complaint in such action, such lien to date from the time of filing a notice of lis pendens in the office of the County Clerk. Every such lien shall have priority before any mortgage or other lien that exists prior to such filing, except tax and assessment liens.
J. A judgment awarding a permanent injunction pursuant to this chapter shall provide, in addition to the costs and disbursements allowed by the Civil Practice Law and Rules, upon satisfactory proof by affidavit or such other evidence as may be submitted, the actual costs, expenses and disbursements of the Town of Brookhaven in investigating, bringing and maintaining the action and in securing the premises, including but not limited to reasonable attorneys' fees.
K. In any action under this chapter, evidence of the common fame and general reputation of the building, erection or place of the inmates or occupants thereof or of those resorting thereto shall be competent evidence to prove the existence of the public nuisance. If evidence of the general reputation of the building, erection or place or of the inmates or occupants thereof, is sufficient to establish the existence of the public nuisance, it shall be prima facie evidence of knowledge thereof and acquiescence and participation therein and responsibility for the nuisance on the part of the owners, lessors, lessees and all those in possession of or having charge of, as agent or otherwise, or having any interest in any form in the property, real or personal, used in conducting or maintaining the public nuisance.
L. The Department of Public Safety shall assist in the monitoring and enforcement of injunctive relief granted under this chapter.
§ 49B-6. Civil penalties. A. Any person, found to have caused, permitted or allowed a public nuisance to exist shall be liable for a civil penalty in the amount of $1,000 for each day the public nuisance has been conducted, permitted or maintained.
B. The Town Attorney may bring and maintain a civil proceeding in the name of the Town of Brookhaven to recover the civil penalty provided hereunder against any person conducting, maintaining or permitting a public nuisance within the scope of this chapter. Said civil penalty may be obtained in the same action described in § 49B-5. Upon recovery, such civil penalty shall be paid into the general fund of the Town of Brookhaven.
§ 49B-7. Construal of provisions. A. This chapter shall not be construed to exclude any other remedy provided by law for the protection of the health, safety and welfare of the people of the Town of Brookhaven, including but not limited to all express and implied powers of the Town Board of the Town of Brookhaven.
B. This chapter shall not be construed to exclude any civil or criminal remedy provided by law for the enforcement of this Code or of the laws of the County of Suffolk, the State of New York or the United States.
§ 49B-8. Severability.
If any clause, sentence, paragraph or subdivision or part of this chapter or the application thereof to any person or circumstance shall be adjudged by any court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid or unconstitutional, such judgment shall not affect, impair or invalidate the remainder thereof, but shall be confined, in its operation, to the clause, sentence, paragraph, subdivision or part of this chapter or, in its application, to the person or circumstance directly involved in the controversy in which such judgment shall be rendered.
§ 49B-9. When effective.
This chapter shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State.
“We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson
Warren, you're such a jack***. Why do you care so much about other towns or counties? Why don't YOU take a lead role? Why encourage others to step forward first? Go after the new Board. Be a doer. You sure as heck didn't go after the current one. Spineless and gutless serves you well as I said before. What we should do is fine you $1,000 for idiocity. Everyone's hero. Oops I only meant Res and Jokester. They seem to hang on everything you say.
Amazing ! What Irony ! A two word post from you, of all people. You couldn't even distinguish your answers to my questions, which there were 3 of, not 2 and yet you throw on a War and Peace length example of something you feel is needed.
I find your answering my questions in such a manner somewhat odd and out of character from you.
Here's it is again in case you misread (didn't like ?) it. Feel free to substantiate your answers, you usually never seem at a loss for words in your posts, sometimes ad nauseam in length.
Yes. No. Maybe? What's the matter, hero? Couldn't find anything in your law books that you could cut and paste as far as a response goes?
To err is human. . .
No it is not going up on my new board because these are issues that are specific to WS and the board is intended for a more general audience.
Yes, I have brought my ideas to the attention of some on the town board.
No, I was not involved in the fight over the proposed Clinton St. ice rink.
“We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson
Care to mention which one(s) or at least state whether they will still be on the board come Jan. 1 ?
Warren. You say you brought your ideas to members of the Board. Would that be the outgoing or the incoming?
Never mind with your reply to my question. Can't be the old Board because you got nowhere with them on the Canisius project on Clinton. That leaves out Vince and Tina. It has to be a new Board member/members. But which one? Piotrowski? You're a soon to be lawyer according to other posts so this could make you close to him. Meegan? Why not cuddle up to the newest female on the Board. Clarke? Why not cuddle up to the newest male on the Board while you're at it.
As I pointed out before my ideas are here on this board and I believe at least two people that view this forum regularly are either incoming/incumbent town board members or close to them so I do not see what relevance who I brought my ideas to because they are not secrets.
As town board members it is their job to get a feel of their constituency and form our town's policy based on the constituency's concerns, ideas and issues accordingly.
Can we get to the substance of the ideas or are we going to dwell on the who rather than the what, why and how and remain inert?
“We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson
So you were just blowing smoke with this remark.
No. You obviously do not know me well; I say what I mean and I mean what I say and I do what I say I will do.
“We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson
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