See how Europe Feels

[gonerail]

[gonerail]

Screwed up. Here's the URL for the Vid. Sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqP7f...truth%2Eorg%2F

[Bringthetruth]

That was a great video, thusands of people outside of the U.S who knows these were self inflicted wounds on 9/11.

Thanks Gonerail.

[mikewrona]

Screwed up. Here's the URL for the Vid. Sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqP7f...truth%2Eorg%2F

A Frenchman also found the body of Bigfoot in Texas

[gonerail]

A Frenchman also found the body of Bigfoot in Texas

You sir make me laugh out loud. Consider this wiseguy !!

The Numbers of the 9/11 Commission
Days until an investigation was ordered into the Pearl Harbour attack: 9
Days until an investigation was ordered into the Kennedy assassination: 7
Days until an investigation was ordered into the Challenger disaster: 7
Number of days until an investigation was ordered into the sinking of the Titanic: 6
Number of days until an investigation was ordered into the 9/11 attacks: 411
Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million
Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million
Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million
Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million

Amount of money authorized by General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan’s intelligence agency (ISI), to be sent to suicide hijacker Mohamed Atta prior to 9/11: $100,000 USD
Number of references in the Final Report to foreign governments providing funding for al-Qaeda operatives: 0 references

Number of hours of testimony given by FBI translator Sibel Edmonds concerning cover-ups by officials at FBI Headquarters: 3 and a half hours
Number of references to Sibel Edmonds: one small footnote
Number of non-compliant facts identified by Dr. David Ray Griffin in the Final Report: 115

Number of hours that the Commission met with President Bush and VP Dick Cheney: 3 hours
Number of hours of recordings made of their testimony: 0 hours
Number of hours of stenographic notes made of their testimony: 0 hours

Number of suicide hijackers identified in name by the Commission: 19 people
Number of named hijackers who have since been found to be alive and well: 6 people

Number of cell-phone calls, according to the Commission, that were made by passengers on the hijacked planes: dozens
Verified altitude that the hijacked planes were cruising at: 25,000 feet
Number of cell-phone calls physically possible at altitudes above 7,000 feet: 0 calls

Number of people who, along with janitor William Rodriguez, were on WTC-North Tower sub-level one, and reported hearing a massive explosion below them just seconds prior to Flight 11 impacting the tower: 20 people
Number of references to Rodriguez’ testimony or testimony of the 20 others in the Final Report: 0 references
Number of pages in the Commission Final Report: 571
Number of pages upon which the collapse of 47-storey steel-framed WTC-7 is mentioned: 0 pages

Percentage of people polled in the US by Zogby in May 2006 who believed that “the US government and its 9/11 Commission concealed…critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11th attacks”: 42%

Sources:

“Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States: The 9/11 Commission Report,” Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton et. al. W.W. Norton & Company, Inc., 2004.

“The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions,” David Ray Griffin. Olive Branch Press, Northampton, Massachusetts, 2005.

“Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11,” Barrie Zwicker. New Society Publishers, Gabriola Island, BC, 2006.

“9/11 Revealed: The Unanswered Questions,” Rowland Morgan and Ian Henshall. Carroll & Graf Publishers, New York, NY, 2005.

www.globaloutlook.ca

www.journalof911studies.com

[mikewrona]

You sir make me laugh out loud. Consider this wiseguy !!

The Numbers of the 9/11 Commission
Days until an investigation was ordered into the Pearl Harbour attack: 9
Days until an investigation was ordered into the Kennedy assassination: 7
Days until an investigation was ordered into the Challenger disaster: 7
Number of days until an investigation was ordered into the sinking of the Titanic: 6
Number of days until an investigation was ordered into the 9/11 attacks: 411
Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million
Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million
Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million
Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million

Amount of money authorized by General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan’s intelligence agency (ISI), to be sent to suicide hijacker Mohamed Atta prior to 9/11: $100,000 USD
Number of references in the Final Report to foreign governments providing funding for al-Qaeda operatives: 0 references

Number of hours of testimony given by FBI translator Sibel Edmonds concerning cover-ups by officials at FBI Headquarters: 3 and a half hours
Number of references to Sibel Edmonds: one small footnote
Number of non-compliant facts identified by Dr. David Ray Griffin in the Final Report: 115

Number of hours that the Commission met with President Bush and VP Dick Cheney: 3 hours
Number of hours of recordings made of their testimony: 0 hours
Number of hours of stenographic notes made of their testimony: 0 hours

Number of suicide hijackers identified in name by the Commission: 19 people
Number of named hijackers who have since been found to be alive and well: 6 people

Number of cell-phone calls, according to the Commission, that were made by passengers on the hijacked planes: dozens
Verified altitude that the hijacked planes were cruising at: 25,000 feet
Number of cell-phone calls physically possible at altitudes above 7,000 feet: 0 calls

Number of people who, along with janitor William Rodriguez, were on WTC-North Tower sub-level one, and reported hearing a massive explosion below them just seconds prior to Flight 11 impacting the tower: 20 people
Number of references to Rodriguez’ testimony or testimony of the 20 others in the Final Report: 0 references
Number of pages in the Commission Final Report: 571
Number of pages upon which the collapse of 47-storey steel-framed WTC-7 is mentioned: 0 pages

Percentage of people polled in the US by Zogby in May 2006 who believed that “the US government and its 9/11 Commission concealed…critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11th attacks”: 42%

Sources:

“Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States: The 9/11 Commission Report,” Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton et. al. W.W. Norton & Company, Inc., 2004.

“The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions,” David Ray Griffin. Olive Branch Press, Northampton, Massachusetts, 2005.

“Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11,” Barrie Zwicker. New Society Publishers, Gabriola Island, BC, 2006.

“9/11 Revealed: The Unanswered Questions,” Rowland Morgan and Ian Henshall. Carroll & Graf Publishers, New York, NY, 2005.

www.globaloutlook.ca

www.journalof911studies.com

Let me guess. You sleep in one piece jammies, carry a teddy bear, and sleep with the light on. As they say, calling you a sociopathic moron is an insult to sociopathic morons around the world.

[mikewrona]

www.journalof911studies.com

This is who our classic moron considers to be an authority on 9/11.

The Journal of 9/11 Studies is headed by Steven E. Jones. Another possible sociopath.

From Brigham young University

Steven E. Jones to retire
Sunday, October 22nd, 2006

Jones is retiring from his post as Professor of Physics at Brigham Young University, effective Jan 1. He has been on leave since early in September, over concerns that his “research” and “papers” were not being peer reviewed and other issues.

Deseret News, Salt Lake city, UT

Deseret News reports that BYU has placed ‘9/11 truth’ professor on paid leave.

Brigham Young University officials will be reviewing his involvement in the so-called “9/11 truth movement”. This semester, Jones was to teach two classes, including Physics 121: Principles of Physics 1.[1], which will now be taught by other instructors.

Brigham Young University issues another statement-

“BYU has repeatedly said that it does not endorse assertions made by individual faculty,” the statement said. “We are, however, concerned about the increasingly speculative and accusatory nature of these statements by Dr. Jones…BYU remains concerned that Dr. Jones’ work on this topic has not been published in appropriate scientific venues…It is a concern when faculty bring the university name into their own personal matters of concern”

You need to get off the drugs and get into a psychiatric center for a very much needed mental health evaluation.

[mikewrona]

Steven E. Jones is a professor at Brigham Young University. He has created the paper which has created the ground swell around the 911 conspiracy theories. His paper was peer reviewed but not by a civil engineering journal. One would think a serious professor would get his paper peer reviewed by a scientific journal which specializes in the field they are writing the paper on.

But is Professor Jones qualified to create a paper which says the towers must have fallen due to explosives? He is a physics professor but what experience does Jones have in building collapse forensics? He has none. His other peer reviewed papers consist of cold fusion technology. He conducts research in nuclear fusion and solar energy. Nothing in his background would suggest he is qualified to write a civil engineering paper on the infinitely complex building collapse of the towers.

Brigham Young University doesn't want anything to do with the paper.

A few department chairmen at Jones' university have issued critical statements, though none of these has yet addressed any of the points which Jones made in his paper and at his presentation at BYU. Chairman of the BYU department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Dr. Miller, is on record stating in an e-mail, "I think without exception, the structural engineering professors in our department are not in agreement with the claims made by Jones in his paper, and they don't think there is accuracy and validity to these claims".
The BYU physics department has also issued a statement: "The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones' hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Center buildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones' department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." The College of Engineering and Technology department has also added, "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones."



Go ahead moron, tell us this is all a conspiracy.

[Dumbfounded]

Steven E. Jones is a professor at Brigham Young University. He has created the paper which has created the ground swell around the 911 conspiracy theories. His paper was peer reviewed but not by a civil engineering journal. One would think a serious professor would get his paper peer reviewed by a scientific journal which specializes in the field they are writing the paper on.

But is Professor Jones qualified to create a paper which says the towers must have fallen due to explosives? He is a physics professor but what experience does Jones have in building collapse forensics? He has none. His other peer reviewed papers consist of cold fusion technology. He conducts research in nuclear fusion and solar energy. Nothing in his background would suggest he is qualified to write a civil engineering paper on the infinitely complex building collapse of the towers.

Brigham Young University doesn't want anything to do with the paper.

A few department chairmen at Jones' university have issued critical statements, though none of these has yet addressed any of the points which Jones made in his paper and at his presentation at BYU. Chairman of the BYU department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Dr. Miller, is on record stating in an e-mail, "I think without exception, the structural engineering professors in our department are not in agreement with the claims made by Jones in his paper, and they don't think there is accuracy and validity to these claims".
The BYU physics department has also issued a statement: "The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones' hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Center buildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones' department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." The College of Engineering and Technology department has also added, "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones."



Go ahead moron, tell us this is all a conspiracy.

Government-paid Scientists and doctors have lied about:

-Global warming
-Fluoride's dangerous effects
-The safety of many commonly prescribed medications
-"Agent Orange," the effects of depleted Uranium on troops & civillians
-The magnitude of damage done by toxic waste & radioactive sites (previously undisclosed)
-How "healthy" and "safe" our food supply is and that most people don't need vitamins

I won't list everything. I have no illusions that you will change your mind Wrona.

Its pretty much an unspoken fact that 99.9% of the mainstream media prints, says and speaks only government-approved news and other information.

Tell you what. Post your Physics diploma and the research you've done on 9/11 on this blog and I will never, ever again refer to 9/11 as a modern-day Pearl Harbor intricately & deviously designed to rally Americans to agree to declare war on Iraq.

Sometimes, its more "logical" to look at human nature and the motivations; "What has 9/11 gained our leaders and CEOs?

Iraq?
Patriot Act?
Surveilleince?
Bin Laden boogeyman?
Every single symptom of fascism in America?



Scientist?

Well, you MIGHT have a point, Wrona.

Batman is a scientist.

[Dumbfounded]

OK. Its this simple.

"9/11 conspiracy nuts" aren't "happy" to THINK that their own government was behind the terrorist attacks of 9/11;

This was mass-murder and high treason which will never be punished let alone disclosed! Duh!

9/11 "conspiracy freaks" would have preferred that there WAS an arab terrorist conspiracy which resulted in the WTC Towers falling, the Pentagon and Flight 93 and that Bush went after & punished the guilty parties.

As you can see, we've been kind of uninformed about the events leading up to, during and post-9/11

Yes, MOST "conspiracy nuts" would much rather live in a world in which there's some real honesty and justice.

Being hyper-vigilant, not trusting your government, watching your country get sliced up for a quick buck and going to websites, reading books and watching DVDs about the 9/11 conspiracy isn't "fun."

It sucks. Some people are just pi-sed off that they've been lied to. Its just that simple.

Course' the media is going label truth-seekers as "conspiracy freaks!"
To give ANY semblance of credibility to those with facts to back up their "conspiracies" would be a direct admission of guilt, which would be the act of a fool and imbecile.

If you can't SMELL the BS through your TV set when any of our "leaders" or "trusted media" speaks to us, you have a really bad sense of smell.

And yes, the fanatics like Alex Jones give "conspiracy freaks" a VERY bad name.

[mikewrona]

Government-paid Scientists and doctors have lied about:

-Global warming
-Fluoride's dangerous effects
-The safety of many commonly prescribed medications
-"Agent Orange," the effects of depleted Uranium on troops & civillians
-The magnitude of damage done by toxic waste & radioactive sites (previously undisclosed)
-How "healthy" and "safe" our food supply is and that most people don't need vitamins

I won't list everything. I have no illusions that you will change your mind Wrona.

Its pretty much an unspoken fact that 99.9% of the mainstream media prints, says and speaks only government-approved news and other information.

Tell you what. Post your Physics diploma and the research you've done on 9/11 on this blog and I will never, ever again refer to 9/11 as a modern-day Pearl Harbor intricately & deviously designed to rally Americans to agree to declare war on Iraq.

Sometimes, its more "logical" to look at human nature and the motivations; "What has 9/11 gained our leaders and CEOs?

Iraq?
Patriot Act?
Surveilleince?
Bin Laden boogeyman?
Every single symptom of fascism in America?



Scientist?

Well, you MIGHT have a point, Wrona.

Batman is a scientist.

Here's my posts Dummy (short for Dumfounded)

Please tell me where I said wrote anything that was based on my Physics experience. You know you have to read everything before you make a stupid statement.

This is who our classic moron considers to be an authority on 9/11.

The Journal of 9/11 Studies is headed by Steven E. Jones. Another possible sociopath.

From Brigham young University

Steven E. Jones to retire
Sunday, October 22nd, 2006

Jones is retiring from his post as Professor of Physics at Brigham Young University, effective Jan 1. He has been on leave since early in September, over concerns that his “research” and “papers” were not being peer reviewed and other issues.

Deseret News, Salt Lake city, UT

Deseret News reports that BYU has placed ‘9/11 truth’ professor on paid leave.

Brigham Young University officials will be reviewing his involvement in the so-called “9/11 truth movement”. This semester, Jones was to teach two classes, including Physics 121: Principles of Physics 1.[1], which will now be taught by other instructors.

Brigham Young University issues another statement-

“BYU has repeatedly said that it does not endorse assertions made by individual faculty,” the statement said. “We are, however, concerned about the increasingly speculative and accusatory nature of these statements by Dr. Jones…BYU remains concerned that Dr. Jones’ work on this topic has not been published in appropriate scientific venues…It is a concern when faculty bring the university name into their own personal matters of concern”

You need to get off the drugs and get into a psychiatric center for a very much needed mental health evaluation.

Steven E. Jones is a professor at Brigham Young University. He has created the paper which has created the ground swell around the 911 conspiracy theories. His paper was peer reviewed but not by a civil engineering journal. One would think a serious professor would get his paper peer reviewed by a scientific journal which specializes in the field they are writing the paper on.

But is Professor Jones qualified to create a paper which says the towers must have fallen due to explosives? He is a physics professor but what experience does Jones have in building collapse forensics? He has none. His other peer reviewed papers consist of cold fusion technology. He conducts research in nuclear fusion and solar energy. Nothing in his background would suggest he is qualified to write a civil engineering paper on the infinitely complex building collapse of the towers.

Brigham Young University doesn't want anything to do with the paper.

A few department chairmen at Jones' university have issued critical statements, though none of these has yet addressed any of the points which Jones made in his paper and at his presentation at BYU. Chairman of the BYU department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Dr. Miller, is on record stating in an e-mail, "I think without exception, the structural engineering professors in our department are not in agreement with the claims made by Jones in his paper, and they don't think there is accuracy and validity to these claims".
The BYU physics department has also issued a statement: "The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones' hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Center buildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones' department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." The College of Engineering and Technology department has also added, "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones."



Go ahead moron, tell us this is all a conspiracy.