Fluoride Stupidity & Population Control

[qu1nn]

FLUORIDE STUPIDITY & POPULATION CONTROL


Controversial fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl FLUoride).

Sodium fluoride, a hazardous-waste by-product from the manufacture of aluminum, is a common ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, anesthetics, hypnotics, psychiatric drugs, and military nerve gas. It's historically been quite expensive to properly dispose of, until some aluminum industries with an overabundance of the stuff sold the public on the terrifically insane but highly profitable idea of buying it at a 20,000% markup, injecting it into our water supplies, and then DRINKING it.

Yes, a 20,000% markup: Fluoride-- intended only for human consumption by people under 14 years of age--is injected into our drinking water supply at approx. 1 part-per-million (ppm), but since we only drink 1/2 of one percent of the total water supply, the rest literally goes down the drain as a free hazardous-waste disposal for the chemical industry, where we PAY them so that we can flush their expensive hazardous waste down our toilets. How many salesmen dream of such a deal? (Follow the money.)

Independent scientific evidence repeatedly showing up over the past 50 years reveals that fluoride allegedly shortens our life span, promotes cancer and various mental disturbances, accelerates osteoporosis and broken hips in old folks, and makes us stupid, docile, and subservient, all in one package. There are reports of aluminum in the brain possibly being a causative factor in Alzheimer's Disease, and evidence points towards fluoride's strong affinity for aluminum and also its ability to "trick" the blood-brain barrier by looking like the hydrogen ion, and thus allowing chemical access to brain tissue.

Scientists who have attempted to blow the whistle on this mega-bucks PR ploy have consistently been given a very unscientific Black-PR treatment, and thus their valid points disputing the current vested interests never arrive in the press.

Follow the money to find the control.

In 1952 the slick PR campaign which ram-rodded the concept of fluoridation through via our Public Health departments and various dental organizations was likened to a highly-emotional "beer-salesman's convention" instead of the objective scientific experiment which it should properly have been. It's continued in that vein right up to present time.

To illustrate the emotional vs. the scientific nature of this issue, just look at the response given by people (perhaps yourself included?) when the subject of fluoridation comes up. Ask yourself, "Is this response EMOTIONAL BLUSTER, or is it UNBIASED AND OPENLY- INTERESTED OBJECTIVITY?"

There is a tremendous amount of emotional, highly unscientific know-it-all attached to fluoridation. Many truly independent (unattached to any vested-interest) scientists who've spent a large portion of their lives studying and working with this subject have been subjected to a surprising amount of uncalled-for and unfair character assassination from strong vested-interest groups who profit from the public's ignorance as well as from their illnesses. (Follow the money.)

Do you have diabetes or kidney disease? There are reportedly more than 11 million Americans with diabetes. Since many diabetics drink more liquids than other people, then according to the Physicians Desk Reference these 11 million Americans probably shouldn't drink fluoridated water, because in doing so, they'll receive an excessive dose of fluoride.

Kidney disease, by definition, lowers the efficiency of the kidneys, which is your main route of fluoride elimination. --So those people with kidney disease also shouldn't drink fluoridated water. Cases are on record (Annapolis, Maryland, 1979) where kidney patients on dialysis machines died, due to a fluoride overdose in the city water supply.

Let's begin at the beginning: The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany's Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride's supposed effect on children's teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.)

The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins, a chemist: "I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930's, Hitler and the German Nazi's envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. ...

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.” [A convenient light lobotomy]

"The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.

"When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...

"I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years' research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine--any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically." - CHARLES E. PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October 1954.

Quoting Einstein's nephew, Dr. E.H. Bronner (a chemist who had also been a prisoner of war during WWII) in a letter printed in The Catholic Mirror, Springfield, MA, January 1952. Excerpts follow: "It appears that the citizens of Massachusetts are among the 'next' on the agenda of the water poisoners.

"There is a sinister network of subversive agents, Godless 'intellectual' parasites, working in our country today whose ramifications grow more extensive, more successful and more alarming each new year and whose true objective is to demoralize, paralyze and destroy our great Republic--from within if they can, according to their plan--for their own possession.
"The tragic success they have already attained in their long siege to destroy the moral fiber of American life is now one of their most potent footholds towards their own ultimate victory over us.

"Fluoridation of our community water systems can well become their most subtle weapon for our sure physical and mental deterioration. ...

"As a research chemist of established standing, I built within the past 22 years, 3 American chemical plants and licensed 6 of my 53 patents. Based on my years of practical experience in the health-food and chemical field, let me warn: fluoridation of drinking water is criminal insanity, sure national suicide. Don't do it.

"Even in small quantities, sodium fluoride is a deadly poison to which no effective antidote has been found. Every exterminator knows that it is the most efficient rat-killer. ... Sodium fluoride is entirely different from organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate needed by our bodies and provided by nature, in God's great providence and love, to build and strengthen our bones and our teeth. This organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate, derived from proper foods, is an edible organic salt, insoluble in water and assimilable by the human body, whereas the non-organic sodium fluoride used in fluoridating water is instant poison to the body and fully water soluble. The body refuses to assimilate it.

"Careful, bonafide laboratory experimentation by conscientious, patriotic research chemists, and actual medical experience, have both revealed that instead of preserving or promoting 'dental health,' fluoridated drinking water destroys teeth, before adulthood and after, by the destructive mottling and other pathological conditions it actually causes in them, and also creates many other very grave pathological conditions in the internal organisms of bodies consuming it. How can it be called a "health" plan? What's behind it?

"That any so-called "doctors" would persuade a civilized nation to add voluntarily a deadly poison to its drinking water systems is unbelievable. It is the height of criminal insanity.
"No wonder Hitler and Stalin fully believed and agreed from 1939 to 1941 that, quoting from both Lenin's Last Will and Hitler's Mein Kampf: "America we shall demoralize, divide, and destroy from within." ...

"Are our Civil Defense organizations and agencies awake to the perils of water poisoning by fluoridation? Its use has been recorded in other countries. Sodium fluoride water solutions are the cheapest and most effective rat killers known to chemists: colorless, odorless, tasteless; no antidote, no remedy, no hope: Instant and complete extermination of rats. ...

"Fluoridation of water systems can be slow national suicide, or quick national liquidation. It is criminal insanity--treason!" Dr. E.H. Bronner, Mfg. Research Chemist, Los Angeles. ----------------------------------

Earliest available Russian fluoride evidence: "I, Oliver Kenneth Goff, was a member of the Communist Party and the Young Communist League, from May 2, 1936, to October 9, 1939. During this period of time, I operated under the alias of John Keats with number 18-B-2. My testimony before the Government is in Volume 9 of the Un-American Activities Report for 1939.

"While a member of the Communist Party, I attended Communist training schools in New York and Wisconsin ... and we were trained in the revolutionary overthrow of the U.S. Government. "... We discussed quite thoroughly the fluoridation of water supplies and how we were using it in Russia as a tranquilizer in the prison camps. The leaders of our school felt that if it could be induced into the American water supply, it would bring about a spirit of lethargy in the nation, where it could keep the general public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism.

We also discussed the fact that keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water reservoir would be advantageous during the time of the revolution, as it would give us opportunity to dump this poison into the water supply and either kill off the populace or threaten them with liquidation, so that they would surrender to obtain fresh water.



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The Fluoride Deception:
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qu1nn

[Sylvan]

Its not a "theory" anymore if the conspiracy has been proven to be fact. lol

[Effigy]

I worked in a water treatment plant for over 20 years, and we added Sodium Silicofluoride (which is a different animal altogether) to achieve a level of 1.0 ppm.

Just FYI, the Niagara River has a NATURAL fluoride level of ~ .40 ppm.

But to encourage you, the first time fluoride was added to a public water supply in the US was Cleveland, Ohio in 1892, and none of those people are alive today.

If you really want to decrease your fluoride intake, stop brushing your teeth.

We probably should also ban Chlorine, as it destroys Earths' ozone layer.

Cholera, anyone?

[Timmy]

Well, considering todays rapid technological change...it just seems odd that there has been NO alternative to flouride to protect our teeth.

we even have found alternatives that minimize the use of chloride...pools, hot tubs and jacuzzis have ionizers that slow the growth of bacteria

water pitchers are lined with silver to retard the growth of water born bacteria

there are even natural alternatives to flouridated toothpaste.

and Im sure there are more discoveries

yet....in over 100 years...no alternative to flouride. I dontknow enough about it to talk conspiracy or anything like that....only....it just seems odd that there are 40 different kinds of toilet paper to pharmaceuticals but nothing about floridated water.

thats very odd.

[Dumbfounded]

FLUORIDE STUPIDITY & POPULATION CONTROL


Controversial fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl FLUoride).

Sodium fluoride, a hazardous-waste by-product from the manufacture of aluminum, is a common ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, anesthetics, hypnotics, psychiatric drugs, and military nerve gas. It's historically been quite expensive to properly dispose of, until some aluminum industries with an overabundance of the stuff sold the public on the terrifically insane but highly profitable idea of buying it at a 20,000% markup, injecting it into our water supplies, and then DRINKING it.

Yes, a 20,000% markup: Fluoride-- intended only for human consumption by people under 14 years of age--is injected into our drinking water supply at approx. 1 part-per-million (ppm), but since we only drink 1/2 of one percent of the total water supply, the rest literally goes down the drain as a free hazardous-waste disposal for the chemical industry, where we PAY them so that we can flush their expensive hazardous waste down our toilets. How many salesmen dream of such a deal? (Follow the money.)

Independent scientific evidence repeatedly showing up over the past 50 years reveals that fluoride allegedly shortens our life span, promotes cancer and various mental disturbances, accelerates osteoporosis and broken hips in old folks, and makes us stupid, docile, and subservient, all in one package. There are reports of aluminum in the brain possibly being a causative factor in Alzheimer's Disease, and evidence points towards fluoride's strong affinity for aluminum and also its ability to "trick" the blood-brain barrier by looking like the hydrogen ion, and thus allowing chemical access to brain tissue.

Scientists who have attempted to blow the whistle on this mega-bucks PR ploy have consistently been given a very unscientific Black-PR treatment, and thus their valid points disputing the current vested interests never arrive in the press.

Follow the money to find the control.

In 1952 the slick PR campaign which ram-rodded the concept of fluoridation through via our Public Health departments and various dental organizations was likened to a highly-emotional "beer-salesman's convention" instead of the objective scientific experiment which it should properly have been. It's continued in that vein right up to present time.

To illustrate the emotional vs. the scientific nature of this issue, just look at the response given by people (perhaps yourself included?) when the subject of fluoridation comes up. Ask yourself, "Is this response EMOTIONAL BLUSTER, or is it UNBIASED AND OPENLY- INTERESTED OBJECTIVITY?"

There is a tremendous amount of emotional, highly unscientific know-it-all attached to fluoridation. Many truly independent (unattached to any vested-interest) scientists who've spent a large portion of their lives studying and working with this subject have been subjected to a surprising amount of uncalled-for and unfair character assassination from strong vested-interest groups who profit from the public's ignorance as well as from their illnesses. (Follow the money.)

Do you have diabetes or kidney disease? There are reportedly more than 11 million Americans with diabetes. Since many diabetics drink more liquids than other people, then according to the Physicians Desk Reference these 11 million Americans probably shouldn't drink fluoridated water, because in doing so, they'll receive an excessive dose of fluoride.

Kidney disease, by definition, lowers the efficiency of the kidneys, which is your main route of fluoride elimination. --So those people with kidney disease also shouldn't drink fluoridated water. Cases are on record (Annapolis, Maryland, 1979) where kidney patients on dialysis machines died, due to a fluoride overdose in the city water supply.

Let's begin at the beginning: The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany's Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride's supposed effect on children's teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.)

The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins, a chemist: "I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930's, Hitler and the German Nazi's envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. ...

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.” [A convenient light lobotomy]

"The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.

"When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...

"I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years' research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine--any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically." - CHARLES E. PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October 1954.

Quoting Einstein's nephew, Dr. E.H. Bronner (a chemist who had also been a prisoner of war during WWII) in a letter printed in The Catholic Mirror, Springfield, MA, January 1952. Excerpts follow: "It appears that the citizens of Massachusetts are among the 'next' on the agenda of the water poisoners.

"There is a sinister network of subversive agents, Godless 'intellectual' parasites, working in our country today whose ramifications grow more extensive, more successful and more alarming each new year and whose true objective is to demoralize, paralyze and destroy our great Republic--from within if they can, according to their plan--for their own possession.
"The tragic success they have already attained in their long siege to destroy the moral fiber of American life is now one of their most potent footholds towards their own ultimate victory over us.

"Fluoridation of our community water systems can well become their most subtle weapon for our sure physical and mental deterioration. ...

"As a research chemist of established standing, I built within the past 22 years, 3 American chemical plants and licensed 6 of my 53 patents. Based on my years of practical experience in the health-food and chemical field, let me warn: fluoridation of drinking water is criminal insanity, sure national suicide. Don't do it.

"Even in small quantities, sodium fluoride is a deadly poison to which no effective antidote has been found. Every exterminator knows that it is the most efficient rat-killer. ... Sodium fluoride is entirely different from organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate needed by our bodies and provided by nature, in God's great providence and love, to build and strengthen our bones and our teeth. This organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate, derived from proper foods, is an edible organic salt, insoluble in water and assimilable by the human body, whereas the non-organic sodium fluoride used in fluoridating water is instant poison to the body and fully water soluble. The body refuses to assimilate it.

"Careful, bonafide laboratory experimentation by conscientious, patriotic research chemists, and actual medical experience, have both revealed that instead of preserving or promoting 'dental health,' fluoridated drinking water destroys teeth, before adulthood and after, by the destructive mottling and other pathological conditions it actually causes in them, and also creates many other very grave pathological conditions in the internal organisms of bodies consuming it. How can it be called a "health" plan? What's behind it?

"That any so-called "doctors" would persuade a civilized nation to add voluntarily a deadly poison to its drinking water systems is unbelievable. It is the height of criminal insanity.
"No wonder Hitler and Stalin fully believed and agreed from 1939 to 1941 that, quoting from both Lenin's Last Will and Hitler's Mein Kampf: "America we shall demoralize, divide, and destroy from within." ...

"Are our Civil Defense organizations and agencies awake to the perils of water poisoning by fluoridation? Its use has been recorded in other countries. Sodium fluoride water solutions are the cheapest and most effective rat killers known to chemists: colorless, odorless, tasteless; no antidote, no remedy, no hope: Instant and complete extermination of rats. ...

"Fluoridation of water systems can be slow national suicide, or quick national liquidation. It is criminal insanity--treason!" Dr. E.H. Bronner, Mfg. Research Chemist, Los Angeles. ----------------------------------

Earliest available Russian fluoride evidence: "I, Oliver Kenneth Goff, was a member of the Communist Party and the Young Communist League, from May 2, 1936, to October 9, 1939. During this period of time, I operated under the alias of John Keats with number 18-B-2. My testimony before the Government is in Volume 9 of the Un-American Activities Report for 1939.

"While a member of the Communist Party, I attended Communist training schools in New York and Wisconsin ... and we were trained in the revolutionary overthrow of the U.S. Government. "... We discussed quite thoroughly the fluoridation of water supplies and how we were using it in Russia as a tranquilizer in the prison camps. The leaders of our school felt that if it could be induced into the American water supply, it would bring about a spirit of lethargy in the nation, where it could keep the general public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism.

We also discussed the fact that keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water reservoir would be advantageous during the time of the revolution, as it would give us opportunity to dump this poison into the water supply and either kill off the populace or threaten them with liquidation, so that they would surrender to obtain fresh water.



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Also Google Video
The Fluoride Deception:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...52089988&hl=en
length 28 minutes


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qu1nn

Thank you. For scaring the hell out of me!

I would like to see the correlation between the rates of violent crime and the amount of fluoride in the water supply.

Wouldn't it be logical that cities with high rates of Fluoride in the drinking water would have a populace too "lobotomized" to tear each other's throats out?

How AWARE are our Dentists, the ADA? If dentists & peridontal surgeons KNOW about the dangers of Fluoride, have they tried to get it out of the water supply?

Perhaps government-sponsored "scientists" and "doctors" have given the "green light" to put MORE Fluoride in our drinking water, to pacify us even faster?

And the ORIGINS of Fluride's use to "calm" people?

What about the BILLIONS the pharmaceuticals are making from their psychotropics/anti-psychotics, bone-density (building) drugs, like Fosamax?
Fluoride in water may cause cancer too?

The mental health business is HUGE and the psychologists and psychiatrists of the world will never have to worry about losing business.

"Follow the money." As usual.

"Drink milk to build strong bones and teeth" but drink lots of water because tap water is good for you (sad thing is, water IS good for people, as long as it isn't toxic).

Christ. I can see why "ignorance is bliss" for so many people. Its SO much easier to live a lie.

IS BOTTLED WATER SAFE?!

What OTHER foods/everyday household & "life-enhancing" products out there are toxic to us?

Hmmmm...Over the counter drugs too?



Thank you for posting this.

I might just try and correlate the incidence of violent crime to a given city's Fluoride count in its drinking water;A couple hours on Google.

Then again, I don't even trust a lot of statistics we're given!

[Dumbfounded]

I did a quick Google search using the keywords:

"Fluoride supplies drinking water rate violent crime"

and was shocked. Stunned.

I wonder. Under what Presidential administration was Flouride legalized to be dumped into the public drinking water supply and under what President was Flouride declared as "healthy" for teeth and bones?

Please Google

"Roger Masters-Toxins, Brain Chemistry and Behavior"

or

"Adverse Health and Behavior from Silicoflourides"

This info. is all legitimate research with full citations from

Dartmouth.edu

What's important is NOT how to try and pass legislation to reverse the practice of putting Fluoride in our water supply but WHAT CAN WE DO TO LESSEN OR NEGATE THE EFFECTS OF FLUORIDE?

Drink ONLY spring water or get an expensive water filter system for our residences?

Use certain supplements?

Try and FIND toothpase that has NO Fluoride?

[Dumbfounded]

Its not a "theory" anymore if the conspiracy has been proven to be fact. lol

You are correct, but the ONLY reason that the "legal" and "safe" addition of Fluoride to our drinking water enters the "dark territory" of "conspiracy theory" is if the government is knowingly allowing something as toxic as Fluoride to be consumed by the American people,
with Fluoride's HUGE spectrum of horrible medical conditions,
then our government and elected representatives lose even MORE crediblity and everything they do and say becomes even MORE suspect
BECAUSE scientists that have PROVEN the poisonous effects of Fluoride (in drinking water) have been mocked and discredited the WITH THE SAME SMEAR CAMPAIGNS as the scientists who have researched Global Warming and have been ridiculed, by our government and government-"sponsored" scientists.

The toxic effects of Fluoride are scientific fact;Public knowledge (with an open mind and a little research)

The U.S. govt & the medical establishment fully advocating the "good health effects" brings a lot of major, influential and wealthy political & professional groups under legit suspicion, ergo, "conspiracy theory" time.

I'd rather know that our drinking water was 1000% safe, healthy and non-toxic, but that ain't the case.

So the world sucks even MORE now that I know that the water I drink is dumbing me down and screwing up my body

And Fluoride's one of the many toxic substances WE ALL consume, breathe or absorb transdermally (skin)

Please read the Dartmouth research on Fluoride & other mass-marketed poisons

Scary stuff

[qu1nn]

I worked in a water treatment plant for over 20 years, and we added Sodium Silicofluoride (which is a different animal altogether) to achieve a level of 1.0 ppm.

Effigy, if you dont mind me asking what was your function during your duration?


qu1nn

[Effigy]

Effigy, if you dont mind me asking what was your function during your duration?


qu1nn

No prob, Quinn. NYS certified Water Treatment Plant Operator II A.

All phases: treatment (chemical process & testing), lab (biological), and pumping.

[qu1nn]

Effigy,

Thank you for your response.
To put it bluntly, just because you went to school to learn how to add 'fluoride' (and other treatment plant supporting activities) to the water supply doesnt mean that you are a definitive source on all things Sodium Silicofluoidated.

That being said...nor do I.

I question all things. To me it appears that there is plenty of sources who are of much higher intelligence than both of us combined who questions the safety of water fluoridation, and if there is any question regarding its safety ... then this supplementation should be stopped immediately....for the safety of the general public. Most likely this will never happen... imagine the potential lawsuits.


Some interesting points that I found over the past couple of days...


Sodium Silicofluoride is also known as Sodium Fluosilicate, Sodium hexafluorosilicate, SFS, Sodium Silica Fluoride is in a category of an Insecticides and Wood Preservative. [Link 01]
CAS No 16893-85-9
This product is listed as on the US EPA list of inerts on LIST 3 "of Unkown Toxicity", I would think that if it were safe... that it would appear as at least a 4A "Generally Regarded as Safe"

1. Removal from EU Community - This product is also used an pesticide, herbicide, and fungicide (one of at least 320), [Link Here] that was slated to be removed from the EU market as they are NOT deemed safe for human consumption.
2. Fluoride Contamination by Industry - Industries such as coal fired power plants and steel industries can contribute to the natural levels of fluoride contamination. Thus your argument that the "natural" level of fluoride in the environment as being naturally acceptable is flawed. Farmers could water their crops with fluoridated water....this would also ADD to the overall consumption fluoride. I have tried to find historic levels of fluoride, but I was unable at the time of this message post.
3. Study - Sodium Silicofluoride causes apoptosis (Apoptosis describes the orchestrated collapse of a cell characterized by membrane blebbing, cell shrinkage, condensation of chromatin, and fragmentation of DNA followed by rapid engulfment of the corpse by neighboring cells) at a concentration of 10 x the amount the suggested 1.00mg/L shows that there is apoptosis.
4. Interesting affidavit and FAQ of Dr Gerard F Judd PH.D
5. Effects on the Brain
6. Lots of Research Listed HERE
7. Aug 9, 2007 600 Professionals call for end to fluoridation of drinking water



To me this leads me to believe that there is more to the story. I do not believe that the regulatory bodies are fair and balanced and that they have the sheeples best interest at heart. In the end it is all about CONTROL


qu1nn

[300miles]

Independent scientific evidence repeatedly showing up over the past 50 years reveals that fluoride allegedly shortens our life span, promotes cancer and various mental disturbances, accelerates osteoporosis and broken hips in old folks, and makes us stupid, docile, and subservient, all in one package.

Care to back any of these claims up?

Whenever a report "claims" to have scientific research behind it, but then ends sentences with wording like "... makes us stupid, docile, and subservient..." you have to realize it's mostly biased scare-mongering more than pure fact.

[300miles]

These were conclusions from studies the Dept of Health and Human Services conducted about 15 years ago... I've posted a few of them below. They mention some issues that merit further study... but found no conclusions that it is unsafe for the general population.


http://web.health.gov/environment/Re...ride/concl.htm

Optimal fluoridation of drinking water does not pose a detectable cancer risk to humans as evidenced by extensive human epidemiological data available to date, including the new studies prepared for this report. ...

The Procter and Gamble study did not find any significant evidence of carcinogenicity in rats and mice of either sex. In the NTP study there was no evidence of carcinogenicity in mice and in female rats. Male rats showed "equivocal" evidence of carcinogenicity based on the finding of a small number of osteosarcomas. "Equivocal" evidence is defined by NTP as "...interpreted as showing a marginal increase in neoplasms that may be chemically related" (HHS, 1990). Taken together, the data available at this time from these two animal studies fail to establish an association between fluoride and cancer.

By comparison with the 1940's, the total prevalence of dental fluorosis has increased in non-fluoridated areas and may have increased in optimally fluoridated areas. Such increases in dental fluorosis in a population signify that total fluoride exposures have increased and may be more than are necessary to prevent dental caries. For this reason, prudent public health practice dictates the reduction of unnecessary and inappropriate fluoride exposure.

In the 1940s, drinking water and food were the major sources of fluoride exposure. Since then, additional sources of fluoride have become available through the introduction of fluoride containing dental products. Although the use of these products is likely responsible for some of the declines in caries scores, the inappropriate use of these products has also likely contributed to the observed increases in the prevalence of very mild and mild forms of dental fluorosis.

Further epidemiological studies are required to determine whether or not an association exists between various levels of fluoride in drinking water and bone fractures.

Crippling skeletal fluorosis is not a public health problem in the United States, as evidenced by the reports of only five cases in 30 years. Crippling skeletal fluorosis, a chronic bone and joint disease associated with extended exposure to high levels of fluoride, has been more prevalent in some regions outside the United States.

Genotoxicity studies of fluoride, which are highly dependent on the methods used, often show contradictory findings. The most consistent finding is that fluoride has not been shown to be mutagenic in standard tests in bacteria (Ames Test). In some studies with different methodologies, fluoride has been reported to induce mutations and chromosome aberrations in cultured rodent and human cells. The genotoxicity of fluoride in humans and animals is unresolved despite numerous studies.

Chronic low level fluoride exposure is nor associated with birth defects. Studies also fail to establish an association between fluoride and Down Syndrome.

There is no indication that chronic low level fluoride exposure of normal individuals presents a problem in other organ systems, such as the gastrointestinal, the genitourinary, and the respiratory systems. The effects of fluoride on the reproductive system merit further investigation in animal and human studies.

[speaker]

Flouride treatment of Buffalo water began sometime in the last mid century and there was a big outcry at the time. There were many tests of its efficacy and contraindications but these all led nowhere, at the time.

Now would be a good time to test the population for possible effects. It seems to me there are a lot of worse pollutants to worry about but if all of the negative side effects are true, it would be the easiest to stop. Trouble is, I don't believe it's all that bad. So I definitely would like to see unbiased test before stopping it.

[colossus27]

FLUORIDE STUPIDITY & POPULATION CONTROL

Sodium fluoride, a hazardous-waste by-product from the manufacture of aluminum, is a common ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, anesthetics, hypnotics, psychiatric drugs, and military nerve gas. It's historically been quite expensive to properly dispose of, until some aluminum industries with an overabundance of the stuff sold the public on the terrifically insane but highly profitable idea of buying it at a 20,000% markup, injecting it into our water supplies, and then DRINKING it.

There are a lot of elements that are poisonous in some forms and required for life in others. The same sodium mentioned in this "article" is a poision, and when combined with another poison- chlorine- it is absolutely essential for life.

Sarin's chemical formula is C₄H₁₀FO₂P and nobody can dispute what a horrifically toxic material it is.

Let's see here...

Carbon...essential? You bet. In fact, all life on earth is carbon-based.
Hydrogen...essential? Yep. Water.
Oxygen.....essential? Yep. Breathe.
Phosphorus...essential? Yep. Part of DNA/RNA.

So why aren't all those bad too? Nice of "the author" to leave that out.

[qu1nn]

There are a lot of elements that are poisonous in some forms and required for life in others. The same sodium mentioned in this "article" is a poision, and when combined with another poison- chlorine- it is absolutely essential for life.

Sarin's chemical formula is C₄H₁₀FO₂P and nobody can dispute what a horrifically toxic material it is.

Let's see here...

Carbon...essential? You bet. In fact, all life on earth is carbon-based.
Hydrogen...essential? Yep. Water.
Oxygen.....essential? Yep. Breathe.
Phosphorus...essential? Yep. Part of DNA/RNA.

So why aren't all those bad too? Nice of "the author" to leave that out.

See this link



specifically :
"Compounds have different physical and chemical properties from their constituent elements."


qu1nn