Regionalism?

[eleanor]

http://www.nytowns.org/core/contentm...al.Control.pdf

Worth a read.

Why has New York State developed a strong small municipal (towns and villages) type of government while the southern states rely more on county and larger government?


Don't over think it...not that I worry about that on this forum.

[Genoobie]

It's not a very well written piece. The author starts with claims and finds data to support these claims. Much of the reasoning is spurious.

Not that I discount the claim, I just don't think the article really supports it. For instance, they use tax per capita. That's a very poor indicator as there are *huge* cost of living fluctuations and salary fluctuations and home price fluctuations between the regions.

[eleanor]

Ok, but any thoughts on the question?

[WNYresident]

Why has New York State developed a strong small municipal (towns and villages) type of government while the southern states rely more on county and larger government?

Fiefdoms, greed and political jobs.

[Dougles]

Tony's 100% right...

[Save Us]

http://www.nytowns.org/core/contentm...al.Control.pdf

Worth a read.

Why has New York State developed a strong small municipal (towns and villages) type of government while the southern states rely more on county and larger government?


Don't over think it...not that I worry about that on this forum.

The prime directive of government is employment, this is accomplished by bureacracies, multiple layers of government, more government workers per capita etc. etc. etc.

How can we achieve the prime directive if you don't let us have all the venues for government employment?

I am very happy we have 400 plus elected officials and over 75 taxing jurisdictions because it means we have a greater voice and more control over our economic destiny...right?

I am of course being sarcastic.

[WNYresident]

Think about this. Where can you get a job and for the most part have NO ACCOUNTABILITY for what do? Only in NYS.

[dgrzeb]

Think about this. Where can you get a job and for the most part have NO ACCOUNTABILITY for what do? Only in NYS.

Not sorry to disagree with you Tony, but I had ACCOUNTABILITY when I worked for my city, I was "on-call" 24/7/365, was responsible for the safety of the public, I showed up for work an hour early every day & rec'd no compensation for that, no overtime, when I did get called, it was "comp time" I rec'd, whoopee! If I made a mistake, people could die, NO ONE ever did, I think I accepted my paycheck PROUDLY, you could have entered civil service, took & exam & passed, got hired, then get shook down by the politicians, but you chose to go private, your choice, my choice was right for me, I'm not ashamed, DO NOT COLOR ALL civil servants with one brush stroke, it's as ignorant as damning or genocide on a whole group of people for their race, creed, or religion! Plus, I rec'd no monetary overtime, could not inflate my pension, which was determined LONG before I was hired, I collect that proudly also, & it's not enough as I still look for work.....

[WNYresident]

Think about this. Where can you get a job and for the most part have NO ACCOUNTABILITY for what do? Only in NYS.

For the most part I think my comment is true.

[Save Us]

For the most part I think my comment is true.

WNY would be the jewel of the Northeast if we got what we paid for.

The highest taxes in the nation, and our success is measured by the people and businesses we got to stay here. I just got my workman's comp figure this quarter. ridiculous.

[dgrzeb]

For the most part I think my comment is true.

Again Tony, not sorry to disagree with you, for the most part you "think" your OPINION is true, it's not fact. Is there abuse of public monies, yes, is there abuse by unions, yes (some, not all!), is there abuse by the rich who control this country AND world abusing us, YES! It's the aristocrats who can afford all that don't care about private, public, or working people at all! NYS & our governments are pawns to these rich folks & PAC's & tell OUR representatives what & how to screw us more. I was accountable, I pay high taxes also, I pay for services also, I can't retire without finding another job to make our weekly budget meet. I was blessed to come back from the Disney area in Florida, I think if you've been brainwashed to hate civil servants & unions, you're living in the Magical Kingdom of Disney World. That said, when's another lunch date, I still love ya

[buffy]

http://www.nytowns.org/core/contentm...al.Control.pdf

Worth a read.

Why has New York State developed a strong small municipal (towns and villages) type of government while the southern states rely more on county and larger government?


Don't over think it...not that I worry about that on this forum.

conclusion #4 implys that we should be happier that our region is doing so poorly b/c if our region were to draw more people, our standard of living would increase along with property taxes and such. I understand the logic, just don"t tell that to anyone living in the City of Niagara Falls

[wnyerlaughs]

http://www.nytowns.org/core/contentm...al.Control.pdf

Worth a read.

Why has New York State developed a strong small municipal (towns and villages) type of government while the southern states rely more on county and larger government?


Don't over think it...not that I worry about that on this forum.

Simple: because it creates more govt jobs, and Democrat voters, when they couldn;t figure out a way to make private sector jobs.