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    Lancaster deputy highway superintendent job creation

    What is going on? The Lancaster Bee reports that the Lancaster Town Board appointed crew chief Cacciotti as deputy highway superintendent. Supervisor Giza is saying he will not receive additional monies and benefits.

    At the Monday Town Board meeting work session attendees heard the board discuss the matter. At the regular meeting questions were asked and one leaving that night had to believe the following:

    1) The town board created a deputy highway superintendent. The resolution reads: RESOLVED, that the Supervisor of the Town of Lancaster be and is hereby authorized to complete and submit Form PO-17 (New Position Duties Statement) to create the position of Deputy Highway Superintendent in the Town of Lancaster Highway Department.

    2) Mr. Cacciotti requested such title which would allow him to perform the duties of the highway superintendent should he not be available – approving payrolls, signing checks and other documents, etc required by administrative authority.

    3) Mr. Cacciotti had such title when he served as temporary deputy superintendent in 2009. The PO 17 form firms it up with state requirement.

    4) It is the highway superintendent who appoints the individual to the position.

    5) A board member declared that now that it was salaried position overtime should be not be allowed. There was no board agreement on the matter but the supervisor did state the crew chief position would remain vacant in case Mr. Cacciotti wanted to return to his union position. It appears overtime will be the sticking point as to whether Cacciotti will take the position based on relinquishing overtime consideration.

    6) Again, there will be job addition, Cacciotti’s duties will remain similar to his crew chief’s position but this move puts him in an salaried, appointed administrative position.

    So what remains to be determined is whether Mr. Cacciotti will accept a position he requested if overtime is denied him. Mr. Cacciotti is under the impression his overtime status will remain the same – as his salary and benefits would remain the same whether or not he would be in the union.

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    Lightbulb What if - I smell some dealin

    What if Mr C retires from his first position and remains as Deputy?

    Can he than collect his pension and still work as Deputy?

    If both positions are civil service the one with the higher rate of pay at time of retirement will be the one used to calculate his pension ! ?

    Also this gives him the authority to do the Highway Supers job - so it would then appear Mr.C could do the Duties of the Super in his absence - what constitutes an "Absence" - would the Highway Super still receive full pay when the Deputy does his job because the Super was unavailable?

    Sweat deals these party players get - Thanks Uncle Bobby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    What is going on? The Lancaster Bee reports that the Lancaster Town Board appointed crew chief Cacciotti as deputy highway superintendent. Supervisor Giza is saying he will not receive additional monies and benefits.

    At the Monday Town Board meeting work session attendees heard the board discuss the matter. At the regular meeting questions were asked and one leaving that night had to believe the following:

    1) The town board created a deputy highway superintendent. The resolution reads: RESOLVED, that the Supervisor of the Town of Lancaster be and is hereby authorized to complete and submit Form PO-17 (New Position Duties Statement) to create the position of Deputy Highway Superintendent in the Town of Lancaster Highway Department.

    2) Mr. Cacciotti requested such title which would allow him to perform the duties of the highway superintendent should he not be available – approving payrolls, signing checks and other documents, etc required by administrative authority.

    3) Mr. Cacciotti had such title when he served as temporary deputy superintendent in 2009. The PO 17 form firms it up with state requirement.

    4) It is the highway superintendent who appoints the individual to the position.

    5) A board member declared that now that it was salaried position overtime should be not be allowed. There was no board agreement on the matter but the supervisor did state the crew chief position would remain vacant in case Mr. Cacciotti wanted to return to his union position. It appears overtime will be the sticking point as to whether Cacciotti will take the position based on relinquishing overtime consideration.

    6) Again, there will be job addition, Cacciotti’s duties will remain similar to his crew chief’s position but this move puts him in an salaried, appointed administrative position.

    So what remains to be determined is whether Mr. Cacciotti will accept a position he requested if overtime is denied him. Mr. Cacciotti is under the impression his overtime status will remain the same – as his salary and benefits would remain the same whether or not he would be in the union.
    Wait is this the Cacciotti that tried to run for town council member last year? I wonder if he is the one that is hooked up with the dem party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortstuff View Post
    Wait is this the Cacciotti that tried to run for town council member last year? I wonder if he is the one that is hooked up with the dem party.
    No, it is not. It is the father who is the crew chief.

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    Mr. Cacciotti once he will be appointed Deputy Highway Superintendent will be eligible for overtime. He will continue performing the same crew chief duties but have an administrative position and title that will allow him same administrative powers as the Highway Superintendent in his absence.

    His crew chief job will be left vacant.

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    Originally posted by Lee Chowaniec:
    Mr. Cacciotti once he will be appointed Deputy Highway Superintendent will be eligible for overtime. He will continue performing the same crew chief duties but have an administrative position and title that will allow him same administrative powers as the Highway Superintendent in his absence.

    His crew chief job will be left vacant.
    That's good. Actually it was a smart move. Since there was no raise in salary for the position and just a promotion in title only. If the highway superintendent were to take a 2 week vacation out of the area, wouldn't the town have had to give Mr Cacciotti (or somone else) the temporary Highway Superintendent position for at least payroll purposes anyway?

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    Nice deal

    So, "Mr. Cacciotti once he will be appointed Deputy Highway Superintendent will be eligible for overtime"

    So he will be able to accumulate over-time as Crew Chief - is that correct?


    • Then when he performs the Duties of Deputy Highway Superintendent - will that be considered Over-time? -
    • If the Highway Boss is "Off" or "unavailable" and the Deputy has to fill in for him - who supervises his crew?
    • Does that person get compensated for working in a higher paying grade/position(as crew chief)?
    It seems to me that either way more money will be spent and new position invented. In the long run they will say well we have two vacancies - the Crew Chief retired and he was also the Deputy Superintendent. Or - we have a open position to fill so we have assigned another "Party Player" because the two jobs were to much for one guy!

    Any way you spin this one - we the taxpayers will pay more. - Please tell me thats not true!
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Wink This move is ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    No, it is not. It is the father who is the crew chief.
    Cacciotti is the man that was part of the witch hunt on Reese and by him getting the assistant Super. That opens his position and another butt kisser gets a job. The B.S. continues in Lancaster, who will Danny A. gets in Latello ? same crap just different day in Lancaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4248 View Post
    What if Mr C retires from his first position and remains as Deputy?

    Can he than collect his pension and still work as Deputy?

    If both positions are civil service the one with the higher rate of pay at time of retirement will be the one used to calculate his pension ! ?

    Also this gives him the authority to do the Highway Supers job - so it would then appear Mr.C could do the Duties of the Super in his absence - what constitutes an "Absence" - would the Highway Super still receive full pay when the Deputy does his job because the Super was unavailable?

    Sweat deals these party players get - Thanks Uncle Bobby
    The pension issue is a moot point. Weather civil service or not, both positions are in the common state retirement plan. The retirement plan is based on the 3 best years of pay. From what I'm reading from these posts, both jobs pay the same.

    In regards to double dipping-if the person retires from crew chief to collect his pension, he will only be eligible to earn up to $30,000 per year from a public job, without affecting his pension. This will not increase his pension neither. This in effect is what our council-lady did. The only means to collect the pension and retain the full time position of assistant SupT. is to obtain a waiver fron the state retirement system. This wold entail showing cause that no other qualified person is available to fill this position.

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    Bingo, the highway dept. got an increase in their spending budget of 184,000.

    Where does Giza & Crew think the money is coming from? Wait for your tax bill coming soon at a Flix theatre by you that is asking for IDA's.....

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    Close - but

    Quote Originally Posted by TTDeathInLan View Post
    The pension issue is a moot point. Weather civil service or not, both positions are in the common state retirement plan. The retirement plan is based on the 3 best years of pay. From what I'm reading from these posts, both jobs pay the same. Yes - but now he can earn more in over time and that will balloon his pension.

    In regards to double dipping-if the person retires from crew chief to collect his pension, he will only be eligible to earn up to $30,000 per year from a public job, without affecting his pension. This will not increase his pension neither. This in effect is what our council-lady did. The only means to collect the pension and retain the full time position of assistant SupT. is to obtain a waiver from the state retirement system. This wold entail showing cause that no other qualified person is available to fill this position.
    Exactly - they can do the same thing they did for Councilman D.Stempniak and help him secure a waiver. So the pension issue is not a "Moot Point" - also one can safely assume if and when he acts as Deputy - should those duties cause him to exceed his "normal hours" there would be compensation.

    Also - like I said prior - these guys have a Union Contract - if someone has to fill in for the crew chief - I'm quite sure they too will receive compensation.

    So we have more long term cost of services and a new position added - wouldn't you agree.

    We pay more in taxes -(budget amended)
    Lancaster Demo Employment Agency (Dem Committee)
    gets a new patronage job to fill.
    The assassin and his assistant gets paid off.



    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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