So what you are saying is the owner is being held to 'historic status' even though:
- For 7 years the building has not been historic and has not been able to use any of the tax benefits that come with that.
- It is not confirmed the building will be historic in the future
How many years have these things been around? How many years out of use?
You and I have talked about building before. You know I am not a tear them all down thinker. I am all for saving great structures that can be saved.
But with these...I do not ever see them being saved. I pointed out the location and surrounding area..to which everyone ignored. That matters.
It is going to take Millions to simply try and make these structures safe. Just where in the hell does that money come from? If somehow that money is found...would you rather spend it here or on the:
- Statler
- Central Terminal
- H. H. Richardson
- Greystone
- AM&A's
- etc
I also understand the scars from things the Larkin Admin building, Johnson Row Houses and the Humbolt Parkway. I understand the desire to fight for everything. But fighting for everything has really shown to be a path to not saving that much in the big picture.
So true. Buyer/Investor beware of buying or investing money in Buffalo. Because if your idea does not gel with the people who really run the show..your money does not matter.
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The reason that the owners of these elevators shouldn't be able to tear them down is because they remind me of when I was a little kid, my father used to take us down there.
Yes, I expect individual property owners to pay for the preservation of my memories -- it makes me feel all squishy inside.
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Still what nobody has answered is why developers that want an empty site don't just buy one of the many shovel-ready sites we already have. There is NO REASON why someone should buy any historic site (or even potentially historic site) with the sole intention of demolition, with all the shovel-ready sites we already have in Buffalo.
There is no need to tear these down. Especially without proper review. The "falling debris" argument is equally bull**** because even if there was anything falling, the site is off-limits and non-public. It's not like the Statler downtown with public streets and sidewalks all around. The debris argument is the usual ploy for instant demo without debate.
Really though, I understand history and the value of history. Specially learning from past mistakes. I have been researching history "grain mill" tours and it's not what we have on the water front. It's more like the original wooden grain mill structures that weren't left to fall apart in the first place.
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I thought it was said it's not a historic site.
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As I pointed out before...all sites are not equal. I compared a site on the East Side to a site on the Buffalo River...to which you replied
I don't see how that comment has anything to do with what I posted.
Also to note, they do not want to demo the ENTIRE structure..just parts of it. A fact that you are ignoring.
Lastly, there is a MASSIVE difference between a historically designated site and a potentially historic site.
So you are an engineer as well? Jack of all trades eh?
While the risk of sh*t falling on someone is not valid...the stability of the structure is best left to engineers..no?
Question...if the proper review comes back that every.single.elevator is beyond repair...are you going to take the side that they should be taken down?
What about the cost? What if these structures need $50M to bring them into a good use that benefits the owner, neighbors and community at large? Just how far do you take preservation with no support to actually preserve?
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