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    Can this even be true???

    This bill is up for vote today!

    Senate Bill 510, the Food Safety Modernization Act, has been called "the most dangerous bill in the history of the United States of America." It would grant the U.S. government new authority over the public's right to grow, trade and transport any foods. This would give Big brother the power to regulate the tomato plants in your backyard. It would grant them the power to arrest and imprison people selling cucumbers at farmer's markets. It would criminalize the transporting of organic produce if you don't comply with the authoritarian rules of the federal government.

    "It will become the most offensive authority against the cultivation, trade and consumption of food and agricultural products of one's choice. It will be unconstitutional and contrary to natural law or, if you like, the will of God." - Dr. Shiv Chopra, Canada Health whistleblower (http://shivchopra.com/?page_id=2)

    This tyrannical law puts all food production (yes, even food produced in your own garden) under the authority of the Department of Homeland Security. Yep -- the very same people running the TSA and its naked body scanner / passenger groping programs.

    This law would also give the U.S. government the power to arrest any backyard food producer as a felon (a "smuggler") for merely growing lettuce and selling it at a local farmer's market.

    It also sells out U.S. sovereignty over our own food supply by ceding to the authority of both the World Trade Organization (WTO) and Codex Alimentarius.

    It would criminalize seed saving (http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/20...), turning backyard gardeners who save heirloom seeds into common criminals. This is obviously designed to give corporations like Monsanto a monopoly over seeds.

    Are you kidding??? What a bunch of jokers we have running our country right now!!!
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    If you heard it from Rush Limbaugh... it has to be true..
    Kiss someone that's different. It helps.
    Lets get the facts first, then go for the jugular!!
    It's all transparent, just read between the lines..

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    I have found that Snopes does, in fact say that some of the claims are false, however, looking at the language in the bill itself leaves this up to interpretation (court) and could well be stretched to true. Why do we need so much legislation constricting our daily lives. i just want the government to stay out of my life. If I want to grow and sell tomatoes or if I want to bake pumpkin seeds to eat at a later date this should be well within my God given rights!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post
    i just want the government to stay out of my life.
    But dammit the government better keep those homos from marrying, right Mike?

    Sorry, gotta call hypocrisy when I see it.
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    Mike.. all the drivel that you copy and paste from other blogs -- You obviously get so caught up in the hyperbole, that you really don't care about the truth.
    You said you checked Snopes. Then you must have missed this:

    # Effects anyone growing food even if they are not selling it but consuming it.

    The bill defines the term "food production facility" to be "any farm, ranch, orchard, vineyard, aquaculture facility, or confined animal-feeding operation." It's something of a stretch to interpret that definition as applying to persons who maintain home-based vegetable gardens or otherwise grow small amounts of food for personal consumption.
    So...if you think that your backyard can be interpreted as a "any farm, ranch, orchard, vineyard, aquaculture facility, or confined animal-feeding operation," then there's no need to have this conversation with you, because you lack basic common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiona View Post
    But dammit the government better keep those homos from marrying, right Mike?

    Sorry, gotta call hypocrisy when I see it.
    Wasn't it govt who defined marriage in the first place?? Had it not, don't you think things would have been different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougles View Post
    Wasn't it govt who defined marriage in the first place?? Had it not, don't you think things would have been different?
    That's irrelevant and you know it. And my point was not to turn this into a thread about gay marriage but simply to point out how certain people want the "gubmint to stay outta my business" but have no problem with it getting into other peoples'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by therising View Post
    Mike.. all the drivel that you copy and paste from other blogs -- You obviously get so caught up in the hyperbole, that you really don't care about the truth.
    You said you checked Snopes. Then you must have missed this:



    So...if you think that your backyard can be interpreted as a "any farm, ranch, orchard, vineyard, aquaculture facility, or confined animal-feeding operation," then there's no need to have this conversation with you, because you lack basic common sense.
    Really? Just how big does my backyard farm have to be to qualify?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post
    Really? Just how big does my backyard farm have to be to qualify?
    OK, Chicken Little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiona View Post
    But dammit the government better keep those homos from marrying, right Mike?

    Sorry, gotta call hypocrisy when I see it.
    Government doesn't keep the "homos" (your word) from marrying. The definition of marriage does.

    BTW: Where have I said that the government should tell any "homos" (your word) not to marry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by therising View Post
    OK, Chicken Little.
    You did not answer the question! Perhaps that would be because the size is relative to the government agency that interprets the size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post
    Really? Just how big does my backyard farm have to be to qualify?
    Mike, the jackboots are coming tomorrow for you. Don't worry, you'll be the first to get enrolled in the Socialist Health Care, so you can get sent to the death panels, ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post
    Government doesn't keep the "homos" (your word) from marrying. The definition of marriage does.

    BTW: Where have I said that the government should tell any "homos" (your word) not to marry?
    Nice spin, good buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post
    You did not answer the question! Perhaps that would be because the size is relative to the government agency that interprets the size.
    Your question was not worth answering.

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    Totally off topic:

    I'm just glad to know that we can still freely use the word "homos" without it being classified as hate speech and getting us labelled as intolerant homophobes...

    And just for the record, I dont have a problem with anyone being a homo or marrying another homo.


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