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    how does one figure out how much electricity savings they may have?

    I'm taking some old equipment off line Nov 30th.

    120V 2 amps
    120V 2 amps
    120V .5 amps
    120V 1.2 amps
    120V .5 amps

    The equipment generates heat so the is also less cooling going to be required and runs 24/7

    no where on our electric bill does it say "you are charged X per kilowatt per hour"...

    I found some stuff on the internet but my numbers are coming out a little high.

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    ~120v * 6.2 amps = ~740 watts power consumption.

    740 watts * 24 hours = 17.7 kWH/day

    p = cost per KWH in cents

    17.7 * p = daily savings in cents

    If your cost per KWH is 10 cents then your savings is about $1.77 a day or $53 per month.
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    Good reply, Fiona.

    Our kwh cost here in WNY is more like 23 cents for residential when you figure in the delivery charge and taxes.

    Tony has a business and his costs are higher.

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    From what I found on the web, electricity is about .18 per kw in NYS

    I'm finally turning off our dial up equipment. I was subsidizing the operational cost with revenue from the web hosting we do. I wasn't even factoring in electrical usage when I was taking revenue generated versus PRI line cost etc.

    We just took advantage of a rebate the electric company was offering to upgrade all the lighting fixtures here to new electronic ballast/T8 bulbs. ROI for that should be 9 months because the electric company covers, get this, 70% of the cost to do the upgrade. I figured with the 10,000's of dollars I have paid Nationgrid/Nimo getting some of my money back wasn't a bad thing.

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    Don't worry Tony, NIMO didn't give that 70%, it was paid for hy higher rates, and higher taxes... the Federal govt was the one funding it... AKA YOU!
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    Dumbest post ever! Thanks for the laugh PO!

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    I know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    From what I found on the web, electricity is about .18 per kw in NYS
    Look at your electric bill.

    Divide the total amount by the amount of number of kw hours you used that month.

    (My example: Total bill= $41.88 (yes I am frugal) /186 kwh = 0.22516129 per kwh.)

    Fuuny thing is the actual power cost of this bill was only $9.05, the rest was "delivery" charges, tax and "fees".

    That is your cost.

    Please post your results!

    What you found on the wide, wide world of web was the basic price per kwh, less "delivery" charges and various taxes and fees.

    Git 'er done!
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    You can't just divide the entire bill by the number of KWH you use. Any flat fees should be added up to form a "base price" per month and then any per KWH hour charges added together for the cost per KWH.

    For every 8.3 amps, you're pulling about a kW of power. 8.3 amps for one hour = 1 kWH. Multiply your KWH's times the KWH charges and then add your base cost to that for your total bill.

    It's not rocket science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I'm taking some old equipment off line Nov 30th.

    120V 2 amps
    120V 2 amps
    120V .5 amps
    120V 1.2 amps
    120V .5 amps

    The equipment generates heat so the is also less cooling going to be required and runs 24/7

    no where on our electric bill does it say "you are charged X per kilowatt per hour"...

    I found some stuff on the internet but my numbers are coming out a little high.
    'Res, you need to look into covering to 220V. Lots of cost savings in there, since it requires less power.

    But your bill should let you know how much you pay per kW/h... If not, call the electric company.
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    Looked into 220V ... Was told a watt is a watt. That is what you pay for.

    A new server I'm playing with for DNS pulls about 70 watts with 2 ssd's drives raid 1 in it. The servers running now draw 150 to 170 watts each. i'll replace all three. Zoom Zoom.

    I'm going to put the original mechanical drives on to see if there is a difference for the hell of it but will use SSD's in this case.

    40 gig intel SSD's are about $105 each. Little more than 250 gig sata mechanical drives. DNS servers don't have large hard drive requirements so 40 gigs are fine.

    There is like no heat either.

    I took a video of win XP booting.. I'll load it up to youtube in a bit. FAST and the drives I'm using are not considered fast ssd's

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Looked into 220V ... Was told a watt is a watt. That is what you pay for.

    A new server I'm playing with for DNS pulls about 70 watts with 2 ssd's drives raid 1 in it. The servers running now draw 150 to 170 watts each. i'll replace all three. Zoom Zoom.

    I'm going to put the original mechanical drives on to see if there is a difference for the hell of it but will use SSD's in this case.

    40 gig intel SSD's are about $105 each. Little more than 250 gig sata mechanical drives. DNS servers don't have large hard drive requirements so 40 gigs are fine.

    There is like no heat either.

    I took a video of win XP booting.. I'll load it up to youtube in a bit. FAST and the drives I'm using are not considered fast ssd's
    I know a Watt is a Watt. However, you use fewer Watts when a datacenter is ran on 208V Therefore, you can generally pack your racks to 75% of capacity, rather than just half (Improving datacenter density).

    Plus it runs cooler, so lower cooling bills.

    http://www.apcmedia.com/salestools/S...NQZ7_R2_EN.pdf

    I've been involved in a couple of data center designs
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    I don't have racks of servers. The build out cost would not have a good ROI.

    The X25-V Intel SSD is not the fastest out of pack when it comes to ssd. I just threw XP on before loading Centos up to see what type of boot time it would have. It's fast! .. I just clicked on restart. Don't count the post boot of the motherboard. I was more interested to see the XP boot time once it started.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I don't have racks of servers. The build out cost would not have a good ROI.
    Ah, I figured you had at least a rack

    The X25-V Intel SSD is not the fastest out of pack when it comes to ssd. I just threw XP on before loading Centos up to see what type of boot time it would have. It's fast! .. I just clicked on restart. Don't count the post boot of the motherboard. I was more interested to see the XP boot time once it started.


    There are mobos you can buy with open-sourced BIOS's which cut even mobo boot time to a mere second

    http://www.uefi.org/home
    http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/24/v...dows-in-under/

    10 seconds to login prompt That's enough to make any geek happy lol
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    It doesn't matter Tony,

    I sit in the dark all night long except for when I watch TV, or when I'm online and my bill is bewteen 50-89.00 $ per month. One thing I am sure of is the NYSEG will raise my bill every other month and on those even months my bill is 50 $...They got us and we didn't even feel the arrow go in.
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    NYSEG is offering 2 years fixed at .06299 per kWh. Con Edison was offering the same rate but only 1 year,. I signed for the two years.
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