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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Then wall off the southern border and remove people in the white house who don't want a strong border.

    Trump runs 2024 I want him in. Just to screw with those long life elected officials who's only goal is to enrich themselves and pander.
    Tony, I look forward to you walling off the southern border in Florida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    No you are right. Tax payers in many cases are covering the cost for hotels, medical and other needs. For 10000's of people. Families are also suffering the horrible outcomes due to drugs coming in.


    Wall the border off and remove those in office who are pushing an unsecured border including spending others people's money due to illegal immigration.
    1. The border is not "unsecured."
    2. The few times in recent years when there has been a push to reform immigration policy in the US, the insurrection caucus blocked it because Republicans do not want to solve the problem, they only want to create chaos so they can blame Democrats.
    3. Your insurrectionist caucus has only one singular and primary aim, and that is to harass and embarrass immigrants (regardless of visa status) with cruelty. I have no doubt that if Florida or Texas contacted other states in good faith to help alleviate pressures on their systems, they would be met with assistance. There are myriad interconnected networks of governmental and non-governmental agencies that exist to help immigrants.
    4. A lot of people like you complain about how no one wants to work. You know who wants to work? A Venezuelan immigrant family that crossed 10 countries and a few jungles by foot to get to the US.
    5. I know you're clamoring for children to be forcibly separated from their parents like they were under Gruppenfuhrer Miller, but that's inhumane.

    Anyhow, I fervently hope that someone in the US treated the incoming Fracasso immigrants with as much hatred and cynical cruelty as you display towards Spanish-speaking refugees from failed states.
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    The border is open.


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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    Tony, I look forward to you walling off the southern border in Florida.
    You can do better than this.

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    With , and when the rest of the world in crisis..whether it be aid for weather related , war related, or any situation where human life is sacrificed because of its' govt is not prepared , the U.S. is always asked, or politicians volunteer to fund their coffers to emedy their problems...AT TAXPAYERS EXPENSE! Meanwhile our social ills continue here in our own country, poverty,infrastructure issues, homelessness, and now inflation.
    It is time to STOP curing other countries' problems pouring them w/free money on the backs of taxpayers! Billions have been given away around the world, and every country on this earth know where to come for handouts
    Lets start taking care of our own here at the aggressive level Biden is now doing for the rest of the world.
    The Feds keep raising % rates..and those who need to borrow $$ will continue..the only entities that are prospering are the banks...not the citizens of this country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d. View Post
    With , and when the rest of the world in crisis..whether it be aid for weather related , war related, or any situation where human life is sacrificed because of its' govt is not prepared , the U.S. is always asked, or politicians volunteer to fund their coffers to emedy their problems...AT TAXPAYERS EXPENSE! Meanwhile our social ills continue here in our own country, poverty,infrastructure issues, homelessness, and now inflation.
    Right-wingers come out to pretend that their hearts bleed for various groups of people whenever it's convenient, but most often to denigrate refugees or immigrants. "Why won't we help our own" they cry as an excuse to keep out people willing to do the menial tasks you would never dream of doing yourself, or even to send your kids to do. The last time a Republican was concerned about poverty it was to demean people as "welfare queens." The last time a Republican was worried about infrastructure issues they voted against high-speed rail while demanding Obama's birth certificate. The last time a Republican was concerned about homelessness it was to complain to a Nextdoor group about a panhandler. The last time a Republican gave a crap about inflation was the early 80s when it peaked under Reagan, whose answer to everything was to give tax breaks to millionaires.

    All of our slavish devotion to giving massive tax breaks to the Kardashians and big business has left the US as a developing country itself, with massive income inequality unrivaled in peer countries where the top 1% want for nothing and the rest of us are mired in problems other places have already solved.

    So, just say you hate immigrants. It's much simpler.

    It is time to STOP curing other countries' problems pouring them w/free money on the backs of taxpayers! Billions have been given away around the world, and every country on this earth know where to come for handouts
    Lets start taking care of our own here at the aggressive level Biden is now doing for the rest of the world.
    Which countries do you think get "free money" and "handouts"?

    The Feds keep raising % rates..and those who need to borrow $$ will continue..the only entities that are prospering are the banks...not the citizens of this country!
    As an informed citizen, I'm sure you know that the inflation rate in the us (currently about 6.9%) is relatively low compared to other places. It is a signal of an overheated economy where a sharp increase in demand is met with poor supply, exacerbated by supply chain bottlenecks, Covid restrictions in other countries, and a crisis in labor.

    (Funny how a crisis in labor is a problem that can be solved with smart immigration policy, but Republicans prefer instead to pretend to care about other things in order to keep people out).

    So, while you guys all whine about how Brandon pushed the inflation button, query how he also did that in the UK (8.6%) and the Eurozone (9.1%). It is a global problem of overdemand and undersupply (capitalism! economics!) that is alleviated by raising interest rates to get demand under control.

    I know that this bulletin board is packed with economic experts and not Q-Anon followers and Trump cultists who just spew what they hear on Newsmax or Fox so I know you'll all understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    Right-wingers come out to pretend that their hearts bleed for various groups of people whenever it's convenient, but most often to denigrate refugees or immigrants. "Why won't we help our own" they cry as an excuse to keep out people willing to do the menial tasks you would never dream of doing yourself, or even to send your kids to do. The last time a Republican was concerned about poverty it was to demean people as "welfare queens." The last time a Republican was worried about infrastructure issues they voted against high-speed rail while demanding Obama's birth certificate. The last time a Republican was concerned about homelessness it was to complain to a Nextdoor group about a panhandler. The last time a Republican gave a crap about inflation was the early 80s when it peaked under Reagan, whose answer to everything was to give tax breaks to millionaires.

    All of our slavish devotion to giving massive tax breaks to the Kardashians and big business has left the US as a developing country itself, with massive income inequality unrivaled in peer countries where the top 1% want for nothing and the rest of us are mired in problems other places have already solved.

    So, just say you hate immigrants. It's much simpler.



    Which countries do you think get "free money" and "handouts"?



    As an informed citizen, I'm sure you know that the inflation rate in the us (currently about 6.9%) is relatively low compared to other places. It is a signal of an overheated economy where a sharp increase in demand is met with poor supply, exacerbated by supply chain bottlenecks, Covid restrictions in other countries, and a crisis in labor.

    (Funny how a crisis in labor is a problem that can be solved with smart immigration policy, but Republicans prefer instead to pretend to care about other things in order to keep people out).

    So, while you guys all whine about how Brandon pushed the inflation button, query how he also did that in the UK (8.6%) and the Eurozone (9.1%). It is a global problem of overdemand and undersupply (capitalism! economics!) that is alleviated by raising interest rates to get demand under control.

    I know that this bulletin board is packed with economic experts and not Q-Anon followers and Trump cultists who just spew what they hear on Newsmax or Fox so I know you'll all understand.
    SO...this country is ruled only by republicans?... Democratic politicians are getting rich also just by being in office...and wanting to STAY in office...so they buy votes, by pandering to the poorest in a socialistic manner...giving it away..Not their money..but the taxpayers hard earned dollars...even working at menial jobs trying to get by...while thousands of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS flood our nation! They offer every $ocial aid under the guise of "humanitarian".. but in reality they are securing votes for re-election bid.Meanwhile..back at the ranch, U.S. citizens ,the middle class are funding every $$ spemnt...not to mention that the decendents of generation to come will be paying off the national debt..IF China doesnt foreclose on our treasury! We need to focus on our own needs in this country..policiies by slo Joe Biden have shaken our foundation to the roots..our economy is the worse in 50 years..inflation nearly same...all by symptom legislation by this country...bet he dont have to ever worry about paying his bills...Yet we run to give BILLION$ away when these dollars could be used to support the future of our nation...Puppet Democrats follow his lead , support him because they know that if they choose another path..their support by the party will be denied...its a good ol boy system for those who go along at the taxpayers expense

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    .its a good ol boy system for those who go along at the taxpayers expense
    And we need to remove from office people who support this nonsense starting where the support starts. Village and town boards. Cheektowaga has had 6+ democrat town board members all active in the ecdems.com for years. High property taxes and quite a few town residents complain about the same BS year after year...

    I want 7 people on our town board who show good judgement.. Anyone who supports the group that pushes the DNC's agenda and candidates like an elderly man who showed signs of elderly aged mental issues during the debates has poor judgement.

    You have people in this group who bitch about abortion rights... and how they are taken away yet the same group wants to take our 2nd amendment rights away...


    But what is worse is how the FBI, DNC and the media just spread lies while Trump was in office. Russia Russia Russia.... etc.. I don't want people like that making decisions that effect me. I work too hard. Those ain't good people....

    Alan, why are you a part of this group? You know better. You really believe it's fine to take people's property and give it to those who illegally enter the USA?

    Another piece of BS I heard is that there are laws on the way where you can't evict or remove someone from your property?..

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    "Another piece of BS I heard is that there are laws on the way where you can't evict or remove someone from your property?"

    Even worse..a law on the books regarding 'SQUATTERS RIGHTS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d. View Post
    SO...this country is ruled only by republicans?... Democratic politicians are getting rich also just by being in office...and wanting to STAY in office...so they buy votes, by pandering to the poorest in a socialistic manner...giving it away..Not their money..but the taxpayers hard earned dollars...even working at menial jobs trying to get by...while thousands of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS flood our nation!
    So much to unpack in one sentence.

    1. No one said the country is "ruled" only by Republicans. I am inferring from your commentary that you are if not a Republican, then leaning right on the political spectrum. As you pivot to accusing Democrats of getting rich by being in office, I detect a lack of outrage when prominent local Republican Trumpist Chris Collins got popped for insider trading (a federal crime) and was subsequently pardoned by Trump.

    2. I'm not sure you can reconcile Democrats getting rich in office by pandering "to the poorest." Not sure whether those poor people are making big donations or what, but I think you haven't thought that out too well.

    3. Last time I checked, unemployment was at a 50-year low and if anything businesses are complaining that they can't get enough people to work - especially in what you term "menial" jobs. You know who would be really good at filling menial jobs? Poor new immigrants who literally walked thousands of miles to get to this country. You'll never find anyone more ready to work hard at crappy jobs than new, poor immigrants.

    They offer every $ocial aid under the guise of "humanitarian".. but in reality they are securing votes for re-election bid.
    I wonder why "humanitarian" is in scare quotes, but yes - Democrats put in policies designed to help the middle class and the poor while Republicans put in policies designed to help the super-wealthy and big business at the direct and intended expense of the middle class and poor. Then you guys hammer at Democrats and vote against your own economic self-interest because some craven Republican politician like Lee Zeldin makes you feel too afraid to drive into Buffalo.

    Meanwhile..back at the ranch, U.S. citizens ,the middle class are funding every $$ spemnt...not to mention that the decendents of generation to come will be paying off the national debt..
    That debt is caused by budget deficits. Trump is among the worst offenders in history. The deficit has decreased under Biden. When Democrats spend, it's to help average working people. When Trump racked up his deficits, it was so Kim Kardashian could keep more of her money and write off her private jet.

    IF China doesnt foreclose on our treasury! We need to focus on our own needs in this country..policiies by slo Joe Biden have shaken our foundation to the roots..our economy is the worse in 50 years..inflation nearly same...all by symptom legislation by this country...bet he dont have to ever worry about paying his bills...Yet we run to give BILLION$ away when these dollars could be used to support the future of our nation...Puppet Democrats follow his lead , support him because they know that if they choose another path..their support by the party will be denied...its a good ol boy system for those who go along at the taxpayers expense
    China can't foreclose on the treasury. Again - you Republicans say we "need to focus on our own needs in this country". Ok, like what? What big social need should be addressed? Why didn't Trump fix them all when he was in power? You people just hate immigrants and you hate Democrats, and you poorly paraphrase nonsense propaganda you get from talk radio and right-wing TV but ultimately you have little idea what you're talking about, and all you have to peddle is hatred and fear.

    Yeah, inflation is bad. It's bad everywhere. Sleepy Joe Brandon didn't cause it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    And we need to remove from office people who support this nonsense starting where the support starts. Village and town boards. Cheektowaga has had 6+ democrat town board members all active in the ecdems.com for years. High property taxes and quite a few town residents complain about the same BS year after year...

    I want 7 people on our town board who show good judgement.. Anyone who supports the group that pushes the DNC's agenda and candidates like an elderly man who showed signs of elderly aged mental issues during the debates has poor judgement.
    Donald Trump advised people to avoid Covid by drinking bleach but go on.

    You have people in this group who bitch about abortion rights... and how they are taken away yet the same group wants to take our 2nd amendment rights away...
    No one is taking anyone's 2nd Amendment rights away, but the Trump-packed Supreme Court took women's body autonomy away and boy are they pissed.

    But what is worse is how the FBI, DNC and the media just spread lies while Trump was in office. Russia Russia Russia.... etc.. I don't want people like that making decisions that effect me. I work too hard. Those ain't good people....
    Donald Trump and Brexit were all part of a targeted plot by Putin to punish the west in retaliation for economic sanctions imposed after Putin invaded and anschlussed Crimea in 2014. Putin decided that it was good to foment political disruption and upheaval in the US through online disinformation and hacks leaked to Wikileaks. Similarly in the UK Putin worked to weaken the European Union and the United Kingdom by funding pro-Brexit politicians and policies, and both of those efforts worked. I don't know whether Donald Trump personally colluded with Russia to win that election, but I know his campaign manager sure did. I know that they certainly didn't turn down or condemn the help they got. I seem to remember Trump begging Putin to hack and release more of Hillary Clinton's emails. Then he attempted to economically and militarily blackmail Ukraine by conditioning the release of weapons and money Congress had already appropriated on Ukraine helping make up dirt on Hunter Biden. Then he promoted and led a violent coup attempt on the steps of the Capitol on the day the Congress was certifying the election - an unprecedented attempt to overthrow the lawfully elected government through violence and the first time in American history that we did not enjoy a peaceful and orderly transfer of power - all because your cult leader is a snowflake baby who can't handle being a loser.

    Alan, why are you a part of this group? You know better. You really believe it's fine to take people's property and give it to those who illegally enter the USA?
    I am a Democrat because I believe in responsible democratic government that is a good partner to its allies, wields its influence responsibly and reasonably, is responsive to its middle and working classes, and works to ensure that everyone plays by the same orderly set of rules. I am a Democrat because I believe in the separation of church and state, because I do not want any freak being allowed to demand that I or anyone else kowtow to his religious preferences, because I welcome not only immigrants, but a fundamental restructuring of our immigration system to result in less chaos and to bring it into the 21st century, because I want our government looking forward and making choices based on current realities and not on old biases. Because I believe that black lives matter and LGBTQ+ people deserve to live their lives in happiness and free from the dictates of repressive governmental control. I believe in a woman's body autonomy and right to dictate her own reproductive needs, and that the only people who should have the right to decide that are her and her physician - not the likes of Lindsey Graham or Lee Zeldin. I am a Democrat because I rejection Christianist attempts to install an oppressive autocracy and I reject Donald Trump's efforts to turn the US into a cheap autocratic mafia state. I detest MAGA rejection of representative democracy and the orderly transfer of power. I do not consider Donald Trump to be anything more than a cheap con man. I am a Democrat because I think that government needs to work for the betterment of working people and not just the wealthiest. I am a Democrat because supply-side, trickle-down economics doesn't work and has never worked and is, itself, a religion at this point practiced only by reactionary Republicans. I am a Democrat because frankly I see no substantive or stylistic difference between Matt Gaetz and Rashida Tlaib, between Jim Jordan and AOC.

    I am a Democrat because I believe in America as a functioning representative democracy that is firmly a part of the free western world.

    Another piece of BS I heard is that there are laws on the way where you can't evict or remove someone from your property?..
    I am a Democrat because I have the intellectual functionality of not getting upset about unsourced "laws on the way".
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    Instead of spreading hatred and disinformation, people in this group could donate a few bucks to help the refugee vendors who own businesses and work at West Side Bazaar, which was hit by a fire last weekend.

    But I know you won't, because refugees to you are nothing but a burden.
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    Donald Trump advised people to avoid Covid by drinking bleach but go on.
    People,

    Here is what we are dealing with. Your classic example of a democrat.

    "He told people to drink bleach!!!!!!"



    Fact-check: Did Trump tell people to drink bleach to kill the coronavirus?

    https://www.statesman.com/story/news...rus/113754708/

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    Instead of spreading hatred and disinformation, people in this group could donate a few bucks to help the refugee vendors who own businesses and work at West Side Bazaar, which was hit by a fire last weekend.

    But I know you won't, because refugees to you are nothing but a burden.
    I'm sure someone in "government" will come up with some funds to help out. Thinking about it... Don't refugees in general receive funds to get businesses off the ground and cover living expenses for while? Just asking.

    In the end I like to help those who are ready here in need. You just can't help anyone and everyone who lives on earth. What the hell is wrong with you. There are 7 billion people.

    I do my part.

    How much have you donated to date to help the refugees at the west side bazaar? I'm not asking to be a dick. I'm just asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    Instead of spreading hatred and disinformation, people in this group could donate a few bucks to help the refugee vendors who own businesses and work at West Side Bazaar, which was hit by a fire last weekend.

    But I know you won't, because refugees to you are nothing but a burden.
    Not only listen...but READ the lyrics..perhaps it will get thru to YOU
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