Granted, gays can't procreate, but the species is going to be fine. There have been gay people since the beginning of time. The breeders seem to be doing a fine job at procreating.
As for your statement that "Gay marriage serves no purpose," can you please show me where it says that the reason for marriage is to procreate?
Piss-drunk people are not getting married by Elvis in a church (sheesh) Again, the difference and out of respect to the faith is the notion that allowing gay "marriage" will only start the process of forcing them into a church where the faith and many congregations find the conduct sinful.
But I'm no religion expert. I will leave that argument to others. Civil unions, fine. Church weddings, not without the blessings of the church.
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Civil Unions seem to be the only legitimate argument in my opinion. In France, they have had civil unions for years for gays and it seems to be working. The sticking point with most people is the reinvention of marriage.
Elton John thinks civil unions are the way to go.
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I didn't say they got married in a church. I'm saying they get married without any religious involvement whatsoever. Churches don't seem to have a problem with legal marriages of drunken strangers by a dude in an elvis suit. That seems like an affront to the sanctity of marriage to me, yet churches don't seem to care about that.
I don't understand... How does it force it on the churches? If a church is against homosexual marriage, they can simply deny them from their church... excommunicate them... whatever. If the church sets up a rule that gay marriage is not allowed, then gay couples can't join. (and why would they want to when other churches support them). The marriage is a state contract, not a religious one.
Nobody is saying that churches have to marry gays. There's civil marriage and theirs religious marriage. Some religions do not recognize marriages not performed in their own churches/ceremonies while others do.
Heterosexual couples get married in City or Town halls or in backyards by mayors, justices of the peace, judges, etc all the time. There's no church involved, and it's been that way since the founding of this country. All they need is a blood test (to test for STDs), a marriage license, and somebody with the authority to marry them.
People who do get married in a religious ceremony in this country still have to get a a blood test (to test for STDs) and a marriage license, and their clergyman has to be recognized as such by the government in order to legally marry people. Polygamous Mormons can be married in their own churches but only their first marriages are recognized by the government.
The anti-gay marriage crowd likes to pretend that marriage is only a religious institution, and it's not -- and pretty much has never been. There has always been a secular side to marriage that is being denied here.
I think that a reasonable argument could be made for healthcare and insurance benefits. A civil union would accomplish this, but it should be clear that marriage is reserved for those who can actually start a family. And it doesn't completely destroy the institution of marriage that has existed as a basic building block of society since ancient times.
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"We're the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad." --Barack Obama
Civil Unions do not give the 'Crazy Christians' a leg to stand on in the public debate.
If the religious right is simply trying to defend the sanctity of marriage, then they would not have an argument if Civil Unions were pushed for.
All of the rights that the LGBT community wants would be provided under proper civil union legislation. No?
All of the concerns on sanctity of marriage that the Christian right wants to protect would not be in jeopardy under proper civil union legislation. No?
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