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    Lancaster: ASSESSMENTS UBER ALLES, YA!

    The deadlines for federal and state income Tax filings have been extended:

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/tax-day-now-july-15-treasury-irs-extend-filing-deadline-and-federal-tax-payments-regardless-of-amount-owed

    The deadline for Driver License renewals have been extended:




    https://dmv.ny.gov/dmv/questions-and-answers


    The deadlines for assessment appeals have been extend in other communities...




    While other municipalities, including Cheektowaga and Grand Island, decided to postpone their reassessment projects because of social distancing guidelines that could affect residents' ability to challenge their property values, Lancaster did not.
    But, In contrast to those common sense accommodations, concerning the deadline for Lancaster residents to appeal their reassessments, from the administration whose Supervisor has said that that to him, going out to buy "a loaf of bread" was not essential, Lancaster property owners got this empathetic reply...

    “There really should be no complaining that people did not have an opportunity,” said Baker. “There was no contact. We have really bent over backwards to accommodate and understand.
    If Lancaster is fighting the ravages of a deadly virus, does it not seem reasonable that taxpayers may have been distracted with issues far more urgent than, what could perhaps be a flexible, reassessment appeal deadline?

    Or, is the urgency of this "Pause" being gratuitously applied to selective areas of personal and business life?

    These comments appear to suggest that Mr. Ruffino had his mind made up long ago...



    "In spite of those challenges, postponing the town's revaluation was never an option, said Lancaster Supervisor Ronald Ruffino..."


    ...and his position on the reassessment deadline appears to be, in my opinion, as harsh and inflexible as is the Ruffino position on "Pause" violators...

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    From The Buffalo News, April 29, 2020:



    In an abnormal year, Lancaster reassessment goes on as normal



    By Jane Kwiatkowski
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    In 2017, Joseph Prybylski bought a 26,000-square-foot multi-use building on St. Joseph Street in Lancaster for $360,000. The property was recently valued by the town for $570,000. An adjoining parcel on Aurora Street was reassessed from $23,000 to $115,000. His residence on Madison Street was assessed at $155,000, up from $105,000.

    Prybylski, an electrician, would like to stand before town officials and explain why he believes those values are unfair. In a normal year, he would have done so already.

    But he can't. This is not a normal year.

    “It’s not fair for anyone who would not be able to physically stand before the board and explain their situation or compare and contrast like you should be able to," he said. “Doing it over the phone is so much different than being able to view who you’re speaking with and state your case. It’s just not the same.”

    Lancaster's townwide reassessment had been planned for years with notices for 19,200 properties mailed to residents and business owners in early March, just before Covid-19 began to make an impact on Western New York. While other municipalities, including Cheektowaga and Grand Island, decided to postpone their reassessment projects because of social distancing guidelines that could affect residents' ability to challenge their property values, Lancaster did not.


    “You cannot just hit a pause button and use the same numbers next year," said town Assessor Rebecca Baker. "They’re really not valid anymore."
    That is not a unanimous opinion in New York. Fifty municipalities throughout the state were continuing their assessments, including the Town of Newstead, said Baker. Twenty-nine postponed, including Cheektowaga, Grand Island and several municipalities in Genesee County.

    Municipalities periodically reassess all of their properties as a way to ensure that the property tax liability is spread evenly. Property tax bills to fund schools and municipalities are based on a parcel's value. The goal is to have every property assessed at 100% of its value.

    Without a reassessment, values can become skewed, with some property owners paying more than their fair share, and some less.
    Lancaster’s revaluation was its first in a decade.

    “The numbers themselves, there were very large increases,” Baker said. “Yes, maybe you were one of the unfortunate ones where the assessment has gone up drastically, but what that actually means is that for the last few years, you’ve been underpaying.”

    Reassessments typically lead to challenges from residents who believe the new value of their property is too high. Those challenges can include a face-to-face meeting with municipal officials.

    But new social distancing guidelines during the pandemic make such meetings impossible.

    In spite of those challenges, postponing the town's revaluation was never an option, said Lancaster Supervisor Ronald Ruffino.

    "The project is for all practical purposes complete," he said. "The unfortunate thing is we haven’t done it in 10 years, so things are quite out of whack."

    Mark V. LaFratta’s two-family home on Miller Street in Depew went from an assessed value of $175,000 to $320,000. His estimated property taxes will jump more than $2,000, from $5,704 to $7,808. LaFratta, 41, is challenging his revaluation. He found information online and dropped his documents in the mail slot because Town Hall was closed.

    Baker noted that even the informal review process for preliminary assessment challenge is conducted by phone. She said that if residents were unable to submit their application for review, parks department employees were sent to pick them up. Informal review meetings, usually conducted with residents at Town Hall, were replaced by phone calls, Baker said.

    “There really should be no complaining that people did not have an opportunity,” said Baker. “There was no contact. We have really bent over backwards to accommodate and understand. I gave out my personal cell number to people who did not have computers, so they could text me photos. I think people had more opportunity – not the same opportunities – with Covid-19.”




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    Mark, you’ve answered your own question about whether the rules are being selectively applied. We saw it in the contempt that Fredo Cuomo showed for the quarantine rules as he went out real estate shopping with a case of active Coronavirus. We’ve seen it in the actions of Cuomo’s daughters who have been seen out regularly without masks. Yesterday we saw it in the actions of Bolshevik Bill Wilhelm, er DiBlasio, who launched another Democratic Totalitarian screed against the Jews for attending a funeral of a beloved rabbi, an action his office had aporoved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grump View Post
    Mark, you’ve answered your own question about whether the rules are being selectively applied. We saw it in the contempt that Fredo Cuomo showed for the quarantine rules as he went out real estate shopping with a case of active Coronavirus. We’ve seen it in the actions of Cuomo’s daughters who have been seen out regularly without masks. Yesterday we saw it in the actions of Bolshevik Bill Wilhelm, er DiBlasio, who launched another Democratic Totalitarian screed against the Jews for attending a funeral of a beloved rabbi, an action his office had aporoved.
    Absolutely outrageous Grump. My posting from another site:

    Our Constitutional guarantee to practice our faith seems to be under challenge in New York, just my opinion.


    This intervention is particularly offensive; it smacks of repugnant echoes of long ago and far away Nazi Germany...

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/mayor-...-large-groups/
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    A different perspective

    Lancaster residents received their Assessment Notification letter the first week in March, weeks before the lockdown of Lancaster public buildings. I agree with Assessor Baker that ample opportunity was provided for residents to contact Baker for an informal discussion and to file a formal appeal.

    After several contacts with Baker, I and several other residents in my community filed formal RP-524 appeals to the Lancaster Assessment Board of Appeals.

    As Baker stated, “You cannot just hit a pause button and use the same numbers next year," said town Assessor Rebecca Baker. "They’re really not valid anymore." If this assessment becomes void, the Town eats the near $300,000 spent on the project.

    Like a great majority of taxpayers, I believe a timely re-assessment has value in leveling the playing field where every property owner is paying his or her fair share of the town taxes used to provide resident services.

    If the property owner believes his or her new assessment is too high, they have the right to appeal and provide information to validate their appeal claim. My appeal is not that my dwelling increased in value but that based on street sales, neighborhood sales and comparable sales in a hot home selling market, one size doesn’t fit all when the market was influenced by sellers updating units prior to sale. Screwed or not in the appeal outcome, I had an opportunity to appeal my assessment.

    Regarding Supervisor Ruffino being charged as “harsh and inflexible”, I disagree – as did 50 other municipalities who continued conducting their assessment projects. Ruffino supported Assessor Baker’s direction for like reasons. Residents pissed at newly elected Supervisor Ruffino will have an opportunity to remove him from office in four years.

    Ruffino has been promising to toe the line of taxes through job and department spending cuts. We shall see.

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    What is amusing is when property owners complain to me that their new assessment does not reflect their property’s true value. When I then ask them if they were to put their property up for sale, what would they ask. Too often they reply with a value higher than their new assessment.

    I also learned that while appraisers are not allowed in one’s home or even backyard, beside market sale information they use Internet sales photos, permits, areal photography sites, etc. to assess properties. Good luck on your appeals!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Residents pissed at newly elected Supervisor Ruffino will have an opportunity to remove him from office in four years.
    Nah, I'm not pissed for personal reasons at the newly-elected Supervisor over the assessment issue; I made out well.

    I am however as equally concerned about pursing the reassessment process without consideration to the possible, if not inevitable, change in real estate values resultant from the Covid-19 calamity, as I am concerned about the others who may have been otherwise impacted by this crisis such as...

    In 2017, Joseph Prybylski bought a 26,000-square-foot multi-use building on St. Joseph Street in Lancaster for $360,000. The property was recently valued by the town for $570,000. An adjoining parcel on Aurora Street was reassessed from $23,000 to $115,000. His residence on Madison Street was assessed at $155,000, up from $105,000.

    Prybylski, an electrician, would like to stand before town officials and explain why he believes those values are unfair. In a normal year, he would have done so already.

    But he can't. This is not a normal year.

    “It’s not fair for anyone who would not be able to physically stand before the board and explain their situation or compare and contrast like you should be able to," he said. “Doing it over the phone is so much different than being able to view who you’re speaking with and state your case. It’s just not the same.”

    This crisis apparently is worthy of turning our lives, our privacy, and our freedoms "topsy-turvey."

    Our national economy has been trashed, school years destroyed, cancer surgeries are now considered optional; graduations, funerals and other milestone life events have been delayed; in-church worship has been suspended; and income tax collection deferred.

    Hell, you need to jump through hoops to get an eye test for driver license renewal, even though those deadlines too, have been delayed.

    Not that any of that matters, people can be "punished" if they do not tow-the-line on every aspect of the Lancaster "Pause," while the public is still perceptibly "in the dark" as to the statistics which would suggest the effectiveness of that "Pause."

    How about those people who were ill during the period before and extending through the reassessment appeal deadline?

    Was Lancaster exempt from the Covid-19 disease during that period?

    Perhaps if we had consistently accurate numbers, presented in a transparent, forthright, non-hand-wringing way, we would know for sure, eh?

    We need to agree to disagree on this one Mr. C.

    The appeal deadline for this reassessment does not, in my mind, rise to the level of importance of the items specified above, and I don't give a rat's ass about the "50 other municipalities who continued conducting their assessment projects," no more than you are favorably affected by the twenty-nine municipalities that chose to postpone their projects.

    Just my two cents.
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    Yes Mark, we will have to agree to disagree on this subject. As someone whose tax increase is estimated at $300, I would like to wish away that happening. But it is what it is and regardless of outcome a re-assessment is a zero-sum game.

    Zero sum game - what one property owner doesn't pay will be picked up by someone else. So, if one property or one neighborhood is significantly underassessed, not only are they paying too little in taxes, but other property owners are subsidizing that taxpayer's or neighborhood's share of the bill.

    https://www.tax.ny.gov/research/prop...reassessqa.htm

    Your looking to government for understanding and fairness? Fairness here lies in the eyes of the property owners outcome. Living in a townhome community I could easily bitch about the unfairness of State Condominium Law 339-y. Where I and several other townhome HOA communities receive no 339-y tax break for providing services not provided by the town, those with Condo status are receiving assessment reductions up to 55% - reductions which lead to tax breaks that far exceed the Association costs of providing the services not provided by the town, and often tax reductions that cover their entire Association HOA fees, and more. It is what it is!

    The State Assembly Democrats promised in 2018 that if the Senate became Democratic controlled it would pass legislation passed in the Assembly that would allow municipalities to determine how Condominium Law 339-y would be administered. There is not one Assessor that I have spoken to that does not believe the Law should be changed. Well near 1-1/2 years later, nothing! Fairness? It is what it is!

    Your plea for information is something we do agree on. The general rule of thumb in an assessment project is that 1/3 of town property owners will receive a tax cut, 1/3 are held harmless and 1/3 will see a tax increase. I am hearing that division is not happening this year. Anyone whose property increased in value by 30% in 10 years can expect to see a tax increase.

    But we will never know the division ratio, will we. My assessment increased by $55,000 – 38%. We have 5 different sized units in our community. There are units increasing in assessment by $100,000 – based on one street sale.

    Appeal, appeal, appeal!

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