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    Ventilators Taken From Upstate To Be Given To New York City

    Legislator Frank Todaro

    My colleagues and I have released the following statement on the Governor's Executive Order that allows him to divert ventilators and other essential medical equipment from Western NY and other areas of the state to NYC:


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    Earlier I wrote...

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    "The authority of the state over its people resides in its war powers."



    Justified or unjustified, this is a troubling example of how the Governor can exercise his sole discretion to place more weight on region than on another, and on one life than on another...

    "The State will be mobilizing the National Guard to pick up and distribute supplies to and from hospitals in need. Cuomo said resources will be shifted all across the state depending on the need of the equipment and PPE.

    "I am signing an Executive Order allowing State to take ventilators and PPE which will be returned or reimbursed," said Cuomo. "I apologize to those institutions."


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    https://www.wgrz.com/mobile/article/...9-270bcac25871

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    Where are Tim Kennedy, Chrystal Peoples and the rest of our Democratic Totalitarian legislators in standing up to this obvious abandonment of Western New York and the rest of upstate by the most corrupt Governor in NYS history.

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    Justified or unjustified, this is a troubling example of how the Governor can exercise his sole discretion to place more weight on region than on another, and on one life than on another...
    In this case and at this point in time I can see why he felt this was needed. I personally don't agree with it because we don't know what will happen in a week or so.

    How would you like to be the Health Commisioner of NYC telling people to go out and have fun while labeling Trump basically a racist for banning travel from China in January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grump View Post
    Where are Tim Kennedy, Chrystal Peoples and the rest of our Democratic Totalitarian legislators in standing up to this obvious abandonment of Western New York and the rest of upstate by the most corrupt Governor in NYS history.
    Grump, where is Monica Wallace?

    This is a screen shot from her NYS Assembly page taken at 4:58 pm. today. Her last informational post, illustrated below, was recorded at 6:35 p.m. April 2, 2020...

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    Quote Originally Posted by grump View Post
    Where are Tim Kennedy, Chrystal Peoples and the rest of our Democratic Totalitarian legislators in standing up to this obvious abandonment of Western New York and the rest of upstate by the most corrupt Governor in NYS history.
    Adjusting the strings controlled by the puppetmaster!

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    FYI...

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    Once they're gone, they're gone!

    Governor Cuomo says that hospitals would get their seized ventilators back when the need was filled, or the state would pay for them. “I apologize for the hardship to those institutions, ultimately there is no hardship, if you don’t get the ventilator back, I give you my personal word I will pay you for the ventilator,” he said.

    “Don’t use the word ‘seize,'” Cuomo said to reporters, calling it a “harsh word.”

    “It’s sharing of resources,” he said.


    Three more Covid-19-related deaths in Erie County, announced Friday afternoon, brought the county's total to 22. There were also 68 new confirmed cases of Covid-19 bringing the county's total so far to 802, although Health Department officials caution that limited testing does not give a full picture of the virus's spread.

    County Executive Mark Poloncarz said county officials are "very worried" because of a continuing higher number of hospitalizations. At last count, there were 179 people hospitalized, including 90 being cared for in ICUs, Poloncarz said. Of those, 79 patients were getting airway assistance, including ventilators, he said.

    "It is my understanding, based on those conversations, that all of our ventilators are being used right now in the hospitals," Poloncarz said. "There is not a single person who is going to have ventilator taken away in Erie County to send down state."

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    Kudos to Poloncarz, that is if he is successful in blocking Cuomo’s executive order. Once they are gone they are not coming back in the near future, or ever. Paying for the ventilators? Then what?

    Don't call it seizing?

    Cuomo for president? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post


    "It is my understanding, based on those conversations, that all of our ventilators are being used right now in the hospitals," Poloncarz said. "There is not a single person who is going to have ventilator taken away in Erie County to send down state."

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    Kudos to Poloncarz, that is if he is successful in blocking Cuomo’s executive order.
    Spot On!

    Earlier today on another medium, I wrote...

    "...if I understood the County Executive correctly, Mr. Polocarz told his press conference moments ago that all such equipment in Erie County is in use, but stopped short of opposing the Governor's "Executive Order." His comments while not defiant, did suggest a curious blend of tact and protection."



    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Don't call it seizing?
    As Governor Cuomo, County Executive Poloncarz, and President Trump engage their daily game of semantics to an anxious audience, they faithfully attempt to weave into their narratives shaded sentences and colored words intended to provide the public with news to assuage their fears and darkest thoughts.

    If one does not "call it seizing," what would be the preferable terminology?

    In the Cuomo and Poloncarz soliloquies to which you refer, they both seemingly failed to forthrightly express the harsh realities of the current circumstances.

    To select family and friends earlier today I wrote in an email...

    "The authority of the state over its people resides in its war powers."

    Justified or unjustified, this is a troubling example of how the Governor can exercise his sole discretion to place more weight on one region than on another, and on one life than on another...

    "The State will be mobilizing the National Guard to pick up and distribute supplies to and from hospitals in need. Cuomo said resources will be shifted all across the state depending on the need of the equipment and PPE.

    I am signing an Executive Order allowing State to take ventilators and PPE which will be returned or reimbursed," said Cuomo. "I apologize to those institutions."
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    A statement by County Clerk Mickey Kearns...


    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=696032034550073
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    Seizure is not theft when government does it !
    Confiscation is not taking someone else's belongings if its for the greater good !
    Restricting public gatherings is acceptable when its done to protect you !
    Controlling social media under the guise of stopping the spread of "misinformation" is OK if it protects the governments agenda !

    One step at a time -
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4248 View Post
    Seizure is not theft when government does it !
    Confiscation is not taking someone else's belongings if its for the greater good !
    Restricting public gatherings is acceptable when its done to protect you !
    Controlling social media under the guise of stopping the spread of "misinformation" is OK if it protects the governments agenda !
    Redefined meanings are symptomatic of semantics in support of an agenda.



    Quote Originally Posted by 4248 View Post
    One step at a time -
    The "Boiling Frog" metaphor in application, eh 4248?
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    Governor Cuomo is being pegged as the second-most likely candidate to win the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination; despite the fact he has not even announced his candidacy. There is no small amount of chatter that Democrats may seek to replace the increasingly bumbling Joe Biden with Cuomo at their nominating convention this summer.

    Is Cuomo deserving of all the praise he has been receiving? Much of Cuomo's recent rhetoric has highlighted his own galling hypocrisy and moral incoherence.

    Last year, Cuomo signed into law New York's new Orwellian-named abortion statute, the Reproductive Health Act. Despite this anodyne name, the Act completely removed abortion from New York's criminal code and legalized the procedure up until birth "when necessary to protect a woman's life or health." The word "health" is conveniently not defined, thus paving a clear path for gruesome second and third trimester on demand abortions. So much for the moral imperative to save "just one life."

    Though initially elected as a relative pragmatist, Cuomo has consistently governed New York as a cultural darling of the ‘woke’ left. In 2014, Cuomo infamously bellowed that "extreme conservatives" who are "right-to-life" and "pro-assault-weapon" do not belong "in the state of New York, because that's not who New Yorkers are."

    With Biden seemingly more gaffe-prone and unintelligible than ever before, Democrats may be on the lookout for a last-ditch convention savior this summer. Supporters of President Trump should be quite pleased if Democrats turn to moral ignoramus par excellence Andrew Cuomo.

    For 16 years I watched one of our own Town Supervisors bandy about the ‘if it saves only one life’ mantra as he administered to favor developer and special interest best interests over that of a community’s well-being and best interests.

    Perhaps I don’t belong in New York when being served by the likes of Governor Cuomo because I am not befitting his brand of a New Yorker.

    Like his father Mario, Andy is king in a ‘progressive / socialist’ blue state, but politically dead to much of the rest of the country.

    Lastly, I am still of the mind that Cuomo will not ‘seize’ ventilators from a county that is in dire need of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post

    Lastly, I am still of the mind that Cuomo will not ‘seize’ ventilators from a county that is in dire need of them.
    Leaders some time overreact, and perhaps if he could, the Governor would take those words back. Until there is an actual confiscation, I am willing to give Cuomo the benefit of the doubt.

    Nevertheless, Cuomo's verbiage, unintentionally I am sure, has served to widen the brotherhood gap between upstate and New York City; an unnecessary polarization in this moment of crisis.

    IMHO, our political leaders must thread a very fine needle and weigh their words and tone very carefully; "The eyes of the world are upon us."

    The comments of Legislator Frank Todaro and the Minority Caucus of the Erie County Legislature specified on post #1, threaded that needle pretty well. Those comments reaffirmed their commitment to help our fellow New Yorkers down state, while properly prioritizing the safety and health of our own WNY family, whom they are sworn to serve and protect.

    As is the case with Todaro and the Minority Caucus, so too is it the case with County Executive Poloncarz's rather artful "It is my understanding, based on those conversations, that all of our ventilators are being used right now in the hospitals...There is not a single person who is going to have ventilator taken away in Erie County to send down state."

    Although lacking is clarion defiance to Cuomo, Poloncarz, as I understand his words, basically said "You can't have them, we are using them."

    I believe those words of our collective county leadership served to defuse a situation which had the potential of quick and ugly escalation, and afforded time for cooler heads to prevail.

    Kudos to those leaders.
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    Folks, to Il Douche, AOC, Wilhelm, er, DiBlasio, Heastie and Stewart-Cousins we don’t exist. So why not steal what belongs to us!

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